A Realistic View at 2013: Part II

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    Re: A Realistic View at 2013: Part II

    In response to southpaw777's comment:

    Drew is better on defense than his numbers suggest. hes a smart ballplayer and like his brother, positions himself correctly and get great jumps on balls. His "range" might not be great, but he gets to balls because of what I listed above. Hes not as bad as it would appear.



    1) He does not get to balls hit in his zone, otherwise his UZR/150 would be at least close to average. It is not even close.

    2) How do you know he "positions himself correctly"?

    3) He may be worse than he appears to be right now in ST.

    4) He may be worse than his career stats and metrics show him to be (especially with his range and first step explosiveness), due to a recently placed pin in his ankle.

     

    He as had a couple of decent years by the numbers, but the larger sample size career range numbers are a bit frightening.

     
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    Drew's UZR/150 did show a lot of improvement before his injury.

    2006 -13.3

    2007 -13.8

    2008 -17.6

    2009 +3.1

    2010 +10.0

    2011 +8.7

    2012 -10.7

     

     
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    just watched the "evil empire" destroy the sox at jetBlue park. The

    Sox started a lot of their regulars and the Yankee scrubs still beat them

    handily. This does not bode well. Only Napoli hit a longball. The rest of

    these guys just grounded out nearly every at bat. Most of them couldn't

    even get the ball out of the infield. Pitching was ok...but the hitters were

    truly pathetic....especially Ellsbury.  Yankee pitching just shut us down

    and we just gotta do better.. The Yanks didn't even have Cano, Tex, Jeter

    in the game, and Gardner was lifted early. No Grandy or Youk, and the

    Yanks didn't even raise a sweat to beat us.  It was a sorry sight to see !!!

     
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    In response to marstan's comment:

    just watched the "evil empire" destroy the sox at jetBlue park. The

    Sox started a lot of their regulars and the Yankee scrubs still beat them

    handily. This does not bode well. Only Napoli hit a longball. The rest of

    these guys just grounded out nearly every at bat. Most of them couldn't

    even get the ball out of the infield. Pitching was ok...but the hitters were

    truly pathetic....especially Ellsbury.  Yankee pitching just shut us down

    and we just gotta do better.. The Yanks didn't even have Cano, Tex, Jeter

    in the game, and Gardner was lifted early. No Grandy or Youk, and the

    Yanks didn't even raise a sweat to beat us.  It was a sorry sight to see !!!




    oh noes!! these games are so important!!!!!11111

     
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    In response to Hfxsoxnut's comment:

    Drew's UZR/150 did show a lot of improvement before his injury.

    2006 -13.3

    2007 -13.8

    2008 -17.6

    2009 +3.1

    2010 +10.0

    2011 +8.7

    2012 -10.7

     A nice trend until the injury, and I suppose he could be unaffected by the pin in the ankle, but I have my doubts.

    SD's RangR improved as well, but not as dramatically:

    -6.5

    -12.2

    -15.7

    +0.3

    +2.6

    +1.8

    -5.4

    I'm hoping he surprises me as much as Aviles did in 2012.




     
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    In response to mef429's comment:

    In response to marstan's comment:

     

    just watched the "evil empire" destroy the sox at jetBlue park. The

    Sox started a lot of their regulars and the Yankee scrubs still beat them

    handily. This does not bode well. Only Napoli hit a longball. The rest of

    these guys just grounded out nearly every at bat. Most of them couldn't

    even get the ball out of the infield. Pitching was ok...but the hitters were

    truly pathetic....especially Ellsbury.  Yankee pitching just shut us down

    and we just gotta do better.. The Yanks didn't even have Cano, Tex, Jeter

    in the game, and Gardner was lifted early. No Grandy or Youk, and the

    Yanks didn't even raise a sweat to beat us.  It was a sorry sight to see !!!

     




    oh noes!! these games are so important!!!!!11111

     



    We should just trade everybody now. This is horrible.

     
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    In response to moonslav59's comment:

     

    In response to mef429's comment:

     

    In response to marstan's comment:

     

    just watched the "evil empire" destroy the sox at jetBlue park. The

    Sox started a lot of their regulars and the Yankee scrubs still beat them

    handily. This does not bode well. Only Napoli hit a longball. The rest of

    these guys just grounded out nearly every at bat. Most of them couldn't

    even get the ball out of the infield. Pitching was ok...but the hitters were

    truly pathetic....especially Ellsbury.  Yankee pitching just shut us down

    and we just gotta do better.. The Yanks didn't even have Cano, Tex, Jeter

    in the game, and Gardner was lifted early. No Grandy or Youk, and the

    Yanks didn't even raise a sweat to beat us.  It was a sorry sight to see !!!

     




    oh noes!! these games are so important!!!!!11111

     

     



    We should just trade everybody now. This is horrible.

     

     




    pack it in. trade off all the assets and START THE KIDS. BC had his chance and he blew it!!!!!


    i'd be surprised if we won 10 games this year..

     
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    In response to selenium-'s comment:

    Marstan , the troll, returns. Long time, no see, Marstan. You need to get in the concern troll line at the rear this time. The line is long. Get your number, hope that you brought a lawn chair and food and drink.



    You are the worst troll on this site. Please refrain from posting on this thread. Thank you.

     
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    let's keep this thread on the topic of baseball..

     
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    The offense was weak today to be sure, but when the "starting lineups" left the Sox were leading 1-0. Dempster, Uehara and Tazawa all looked very good. Hanrahan was victimized by two bad errors by a thirdbaseman who will not play in Boston and two walks. He gave up two hits, a broken-bat bloop and a grounder that trickled into right. The first error by Sutton was on a routine double-play ball. Bailey did give up two shots. But to characterize this game as the Yankee junior varsity easliy beating the Red Sox varsity is not even close to what happened. 

     
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    In response to mef429's comment:

    let's keep this thread on the topic of baseball..



    Yes, nice job by Dempster today.

     
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    In response to moonslav59's comment:

     

    In response to mef429's comment:

     

    let's keep this thread on the topic of baseball..

     



    Yes, nice job by Dempster today.

     

     



    i heard good things but i don't put too much stock into it. I am reserving judgment of him until i see him pitch in meaningful games.

    but it is encouraging... it's never a bad thing to have a good outing

     
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    Re: A Realistic View at 2013: Part II

    selenium, please avoid this thread. It is about baseball and not discussing poster's motives, team affiliations, or any other non-baseball topics.

    I'm asking politely. Find other threads to pick posters apart. Please.

    Thanks.

     
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    Moon, my offseason hopes were similar to yours: I wanted one young power pitcher, one young hitter added to our players.  Now I've accepted this is the way it's going to be.  As I think we are actually rebuilding--does anyone in RS organization actually say that?--I'm watching the accounts of ST with quite a bit of interest.  I think there is a big opportunity for young players.  It seems when there is a vacuum then that vacuum will be filled in some manner.  Right now I'm quite worried about some of our players; I think it's ominous that Papi is still not playing and Naps may be fragile.  But I also think it's very likely that two or three young players/pitchers will be playing regularly before the year is over.  I've mentioned this before, but I think in the past we were slow to bring up young guys and where to play them with high priced free agents needing to play.  Times of change are exciting times, I do hope some of these young kids make it, and I for one would rathers see them get more games and de-emphasize the "playoffs."  I don't know how patient management will be, but I think this is the course we're on.

     
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    What if Napoli actually gives us 35 plus HR and anywhere near a .280 average? He should hit quite a few doubles also and not playing catcher should help his game some overall. The guy clearly has pop in his bat and he is optimized for Fenway Park. I like the way the pitching staff is shaping up, which is most of the battle right there, and we have a lot more depth at starting pitcher than most had projected.

     

    I like our chances more each day.

     
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    In response to RedsoxProspects' comment:

    What if Napoli actually gives us 35 plus HR and anywhere near a .280 average? He should hit quite a few doubles also and not playing catcher should help his game some overall. The guy clearly has pop in his bat and he is optimized for Fenway Park. I like the way the pitching staff is shaping up, which is most of the battle right there, and we have a lot more depth at starting pitcher than most had projected.

     

    I like our chances more each day.




    there are some interesting dynamics to this team. We need good health and a bit of luck. but overall, i like our chances.

     
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    In response to selenium-'s comment:

    It was about baseball. MEF was not pleased by Dempster's performance. You were pleased and MEF is saying no.. How could there be such a dichotomy in opinion? Just watch the game or look at the box score. The concern trolls are very concerned since it wasn't a "meaningful game" and you are happy because it was a meaningful game. So what is a meaningful game. Why not decide that all ST games are meaningless and not come here and expression optimism or pessimism. Meanwhile all those who watched the game are very happy with the performance of Dempster. Some will always come here to bi-tch. They love to stir the pot Lonliness?



    You don't even realize you are doing it, do you?

    Sad.

    How is this "about baseball"?

    "Well then,  if ST games are not meaningful, so why not hold your tongue until the regular season? Don't applaud, be happy, be critical, or bash, since the games are not "meaningful". Why say anything at all if you have that opinion? Why be here as a poster in ST if all games and opinions are not meaningful. Are you trying to stifle optimism and pessimism? If so why bother?   "

     

    How is your next post "about baseball"?

    "It was about baseball. MEF was not pleased by Dempster's performance. You were pleased and MEF is saying no.. How could there be such a dichotomy in opinion? Just watch the game or look at the box score. The concern trolls are very concerned since it wasn't a "meaningful game" and you are happy because it was a meaningful game. So what is a meaningful game. Why not decide that all ST games are meaningless and not come here and expression optimism or pessimism. Meanwhile all those who watched the game are very happy with the performance of Dempster. Some will always come here to bi-tch. They love to stir the pot Lonliness?  "

    It's all about you and your crusade to rid the board of perceived trolls, Sox fan pretenders, and just about anything but baseball.

    I will ask kindly again, sir. Please do not post on this thread. Thank you.

     

     
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    Re: A Realistic View at 2013: Part II

    anyway moon, What do you think Naps line will be over the season? assuming good health (130ish games)

     
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    Re: A Realistic View at 2013: Part II

    Moon, my offseason hopes were similar to yours: I wanted one young power pitcher, one young hitter added to our players.  Now I've accepted this is the way it's going to be.  As I think we are actually rebuilding--does anyone in RS organization actually say that?--I'm watching the accounts of ST with quite a bit of interest.  I think there is a big opportunity for young players.  It seems when there is a vacuum then that vacuum will be filled in some manner.  Right now I'm quite worried about some of our players; I think it's ominous that Papi is still not playing and Naps may be fragile.  But I also think it's very likely that two or three young players/pitchers will be playing regularly before the year is over.  I've mentioned this before, but I think in the past we were slow to bring up young guys and where to play them with high priced free agents needing to play.  Times of change are exciting times, I do hope some of these young kids make it, and I for one would rathers see them get more games and de-emphasize the "playoffs."  I don't know how patient management will be, but I think this is the course we're on.

    I understand and do not disagree. I get what Ben is doing. I'm not really upset with him, since the Dodger trade was a huge move for our future... HUGE!

    I do think we may see some kids come this year up quicker than in the past. It may not even take an injury to make it come true. I'm pretty sure someone will be tearing up the minors enough to make it obvious to bring him up. I'm glad we kept our farm intact. I'm hoping our next moves will be to improve our longterm outlook either at the deadline or next winter.

    I guess the draft pick we get for Ellsbury might turn out fine, but I have to think we could have gotten more. I'd have liked to see maybe just one winter move to get a player that can help in 2015 and beyond, but maybe every move from now on will be in that manner.  I think we have all the transition players we need for the nest 2 years, so...

     
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    Re: A Realistic View at 2013: Part II

    there are some interesting dynamics to this team. We need good health and a bit of luck. but overall, i like our chances.

    Very interesting dynamics for sure, but I cannot share your optimism over our meager chances. Too many things have to go right for us to even have a slight chance to make the wildcard play-in game.

     
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    Re: A Realistic View at 2013: Part II

    In response to mef429's comment:

    anyway moon, What do you think Naps line will be over the season? assuming good health (130ish games)



    130 games and 550 PAs:

    .305  32  105

     

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