A Realistic View at 2013: Part II

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    In response to Ice-Cream's comment:

     

    Do you guys like this year's idea of AL and NL teams playing each other randomly?

    The Angels opened the season at Cincinati and the Royals are now playing the Phillies.  

    On Sept 24th and 25th, the Red Sox go to Colorado to play the Rockies.  Those two games might get snowed out.   LOL

     



    i like it a lot. in fact, AL and NL don't play each other enough

     
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    Do you guys like this year's idea of AL and NL teams playing each other randomly?

    The Angels opened the season at Cincinati and the Royals are now playing the Phillies.  

    On Sept 24th and 25th, the Red Sox go to Colorado to play the Rockies.  Those two games might get snowed out.   LOL

     

     



    i like it a lot. in fact, AL and NL don't play each other enough

     



    We should play a 2 game home and 2 game away against all non division teams. That leaves 62 vs our own div (about 15 games total vs each team).

     
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    In response to mef429's comment:

     

    In response to Ice-Cream's comment:

     

     

    Do you guys like this year's idea of AL and NL teams playing each other randomly?

    The Angels opened the season at Cincinati and the Royals are now playing the Phillies.  

    On Sept 24th and 25th, the Red Sox go to Colorado to play the Rockies.  Those two games might get snowed out.   LOL

     

     



    i like it a lot. in fact, AL and NL don't play each other enough

     

     



    We should play a 2 game home and 2 game away against all non division teams. That leaves 62 vs our own div (about 15 games total vs each team).

     



    i like it. the more interleague games the more the numbers are "normalized" when comparing AL stats VS NL stats. it also will give you a better picture of what to expect from a guy when switching leagues

     
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    Two comments..1.  Does anyone besides me find it unusual that Ortiz's injury went from bad(I'm tempted to use the term 'chronic') to suddenly healing up to stat running etc. all coincidentally happening at the end of spring training?  It almost makes me wonder if, due to his superstar, face-of-the-franchise image, that a pass was given to him to allow the total skipping of spring training.  If so, it doesn't really matter to me.

    OK, call me crazy or on the verge of insanity.  I've been called worse before...laugh

                            2.  I love the way Iggy is playing, but I hope JF reminds him that when a sacrifice is called for, it's what it is...a sacrifice.  Let the world know that you're going to bunt..get set up etc.  When a bunt is called for under these circumstances, the intent is to move the player/s along.  Getting a hit is secondary.

    Allright, I'm prepared. Let my floggings begin.  :)

     

     
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    Does anyone besides me find it unusual that Ortiz's injury went from bad(I'm tempted to use the term 'chronic') to suddenly healing up to stat running etc. all coincidentally happening at the end of spring training?  It almost makes me wonder if, due to his superstar, face-of-the-franchise image, that a pass was given to him to allow the total skipping of spring training.  If so, it doesn't really matter to me.



    Ortiz has never been one to skimp out of playing. he always wants to be out on the field.. he definitely wouldn't pass up starting out the season in NY against our rivals, with that short right field porch to pad his season opening numbers.....

     
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    Does anyone besides me find it unusual that Ortiz's injury went from bad(I'm tempted to use the term 'chronic') to suddenly healing up to stat running etc. all coincidentally happening at the end of spring training?  It almost makes me wonder if, due to his superstar, face-of-the-franchise image, that a pass was given to him to allow the total skipping of spring training.  If so, it doesn't really matter to me.

     



    Ortiz has never been one to skimp out of playing. he always wants to be out on the field.. he definitely wouldn't pass up starting out the season in NY against our rivals, with that short right field porch to pad his season opening numbers.....

     




    You're absolutely right about his passion etc.

    It just seems bizarre to me.

     
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    We should play a 2 game home and 2 game away against all non division teams. That leaves 62 vs our own div (about 15 games total vs each team).

     

     



    i like it. the more interleague games the more the numbers are "normalized" when comparing AL stats VS NL stats. it also will give you a better picture of what to expect from a guy when switching leagues

    The 2 game series might be problematic, but if you group them geographically to minimize travel, it might work OK, otherwise they could play 4 away one year and 4 home the next.

     
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    Small sample size, but still impressive after 4 games:

    OBP

    Iggy    .615

    Nava   .556

    Gomes .545

    Ciriaco .500

    Salty   .467

    If I told on you April 1st that these would be our 5 leading OBP guys after 4 games, you'd probably have guessed we'd be 1-3 at best.

    Pedey  .429

    JBJ      .421

    Vict     .350

    Ellsb    .333

    Ross    .333

    Midds  .316

    Naps   .158

     

    Our starter ERA/WHIP is still a bit worrisome, but all kept us in the games:

    ERA/WHIP

    Buchholz  1.29/ 1.14

    Lester       3.60/ 1.40

    Dempster  5.40/ 1.60

    Doubront   5.40/ 1.80

     
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    Iggy's last play before he was taken out was pretty awesome. and he did it with a bum arm. No way drew makes that play. So far we have 2 plays over 4 games. It sucks he got hurt but i don't think we win that game without the help of Neck.

     
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    I just spent some time looking at the situation on the farm, catching up on things. Look closely and you can see a lot of starting pitching talent:

    Webster

    DeLarosa

    Barnes

    Ranaudo

    Workman

    Owens

    Johnson

    I'm not even considering Hernandez and others who absolutely can contribute as well. That's 6 guys right there who all have a solid shot at being mlb level starters. We have not had a farm situation like that in a very long time, especially in regard to pitching. I look at teams like SF and see that pitching alone has carried that team to 2 world championships recently. The fact that we have some outstanding young arms on the farm really is a good indicator of future success. I think all these guys are going to emerge well this year. We haven't heard the last of Ranaudo and Workman. We sometimes don't think about them but they are in the mix also.

    We also have some great young bullpen prospects. Montas, Celestino and others. Alex Wilson.  We are well stocked there also, particularly down in the lower levels.

    They are batting Linares 8th in AAA. The guy gets no respect folks. For whatever reason. I would think at this point they would consider trading him. They don't seem to want to give him a real shot.

     

     
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    In response to RedsoxProspects' comment:

    I just spent some time looking at the situation on the farm, catching up on things. Look closely and you can see a lot of starting pitching talent:

    Webster

    DeLarosa

    Barnes

    Ranaudo

    Workman

    Owens

    Johnson

    I'm not even considering Hernandez and others who absolutely can contribute as well. That's 6 guys right there who all have a solid shot at being mlb level starters. We have not had a farm situation like that in a very long time, especially in regard to pitching. I look at teams like SF and see that pitching alone has carried that team to 2 world championships recently. The fact that we have some outstanding young arms on the farm really is a good indicator of future success. I think all these guys are going to emerge well this year. We haven't heard the last of Ranaudo and Workman. We sometimes don't think about them but they are in the mix also.

    We also have some great young bullpen prospects. Montas, Celestino and others. Alex Wilson.  We are well stocked there also, particularly down in the lower levels.

    They are batting Linares 8th in AAA. The guy gets no respect folks. For whatever reason. I would think at this point they would consider trading him. They don't seem to want to give him a real shot.

     



    Adding Webster and DLR last summer really boosted our pitching prospect outlook from a higher point than it had been for a long time beforehand. There are alos several other pitchers who may join this list after this season. 

    On Linares, I don't get it either. He'd probably be playing on some teams right now, so maybe a trade is likely at some point. I wonder where Ben has him on the depth chart for each OF position or DH. He may not even be the next guy in line!

     
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    Linares batting 8th in Pawtucket? I don't get it. The guy looks in some ways to be right there with Nava / Sweeney etc...

     

    I can only speculate and that is probably not even appropriate since I know nothing really as to why.  I wonder if they don't see him receptive to revising his approach maybe? Possibly not committing to conditioning to the level they want. Is he happy as heck with the money he is already making, compared to the $10 a month salary in Cuba and just not motivated? 

    Complete speculation on my part. No accusations as I do not know. I just don't get why he is so far down on the list. He is deep injury depth. That appears to be all.

     
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    who do you think can jump higher? Drew, Iggy or Ciriaco?

     
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    You know, there are  a lot of reasons to "ignore" on this forum. A new one is invented every day. 

     
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    You know, there are  a lot of reasons to "ignore" on this forum. A new one is invented every day. 



    i thought it was a valid question. it would help me answer a tougher question

     
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    Linares batting 8th in Pawtucket? I don't get it. The guy looks in some ways to be right there with Nava / Sweeney etc...

     

    I can only speculate and that is probably not even appropriate since I know nothing really as to why.  I wonder if they don't see him receptive to revising his approach maybe? Possibly not committing to conditioning to the level they want. Is he happy as heck with the money he is already making, compared to the $10 a month salary in Cuba and just not motivated? 

    Complete speculation on my part. No accusations as I do not know. I just don't get why he is so far down on the list. He is deep injury depth. That appears to be all.



    Boom, you may well be on to something. My spring training observations were that he has some pop in his bat, but he is not a well-conditioned athlete. I know this is baseball so being a well-conditioned athlete is secondary to talent and instincts sometimes, but the rest of our outfield prospects, as well as some of those on the MLB roster, are all much faster and more athletic. I feel like I've been bashing him all spring, but being thick is one thing (I have first-hand knowledge of that!) and jiggling while you're running is another. Linares jiggles.

     
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    For those of us who watched the WBC, it seemed like a lot of Cuban players were chubby. Maybe it's the food they preferred or the motivation was just not there. Lots of chubby Cuban players.

     
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    Re: A Realistic View at 2013: Part II

    Linares:

    2013 AAA (8 AB) .125  0  0  .125/.222/.347

    2013 ST (29 AB) .345  2  6  .355/.586/.941

     

    2012 AAA (216)  .297  8  29  .321/.480/.801

    2012 AA  (238)   .333  8  33  .403/.538/.941

    2012 ST (19 AB) .158  0  0  .158/.158/.316

     

    2011 AAA (64)     .233  3  12  .281/.500/.781

    2011  ST (25 AB) .320  1  3  .353/.548/.901

     

    He has missed time here and there, but he had a nice ST in 2011 before getting hurt, a really good AA & AAA season in 2012 (Combined: .316  16  62 in 412 AB), and a really good 2013 ST.

    I'm not sure what more he needs to do at the plate to get a shot. I have read he is a very good fielder, but maybe it is his conditioning that has prevented promotion.

     
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    I haven't watched him but he sounds like Panda for the Giants.  Great hitter and a good fielder but is often out of shape and came to ST out of shape this year and is dealing with injuries--which he always gets when out shape.  He was benched two seasons ago, but I think he was the WS MVP last year if it wasn't Posey.  Always has strains, cramps, etc.  A strange article in the paper this week about him where he says next year is when he will be finally mature enough to have to start taking better care of his body and getting in shape?????  I think he is probably 30-40 lbs. overweight right now.  I predict he will be one of these guys whose career will be significantly shortened because of his  approach.  Maybe the RS see Linares as one of these types.  Over the years we've seen these types that eat themselves out of a lot of salary and extra years as a specialist, DH, BP specialist, etc.

     
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    I haven't watched him but he sounds like Panda for the Giants.  Great hitter and a good fielder but is often out of shape and came to ST out of shape this year and is dealing with injuries--which he always gets when out shape.  He was benched two seasons ago, but I think he was the WS MVP last year if it wasn't Posey.  Always has strains, cramps, etc.  A strange article in the paper this week about him where he says next year is when he will be finally mature enough to have to start taking better care of his body and getting in shape?????  I think he is probably 30-40 lbs. overweight right now.  I predict he will be one of these guys whose career will be significantly shortened because of his  approach.  Maybe the RS see Linares as one of these types.  Over the years we've seen these types that eat themselves out of a lot of salary and extra years as a specialist, DH, BP specialist, etc.




    Very good points, but there are a few players that have been overweight their whole careers and stay off the DL pretty well... like Papi up until very recently.

     
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    Linares is listed under 200  I've seen him play and he's no where near as overweight as the Panda,

    What the Red Sox are trying to do with him has been a mystery for the past couple years. I would like to see him given a chance,



    Maybe when JBJ goes down for his 20 days, Linbares will get a look.

    Nava sometimes runs out of gas by the end of the season, so maybe Linares could come up for him if it happens again. Otherwise, it will take an injury or a phenomenal hot streak in AAA by JCL to get him a shot in 2013.

     
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    Sox leaders in OBP for 2013:

    Iggy     .615

    Nava     .556

    Gomes  .429

    Ciriaco  .429

    Pedey   .400

    S Vict    .375

    JBJ        .364

    Ells       .320

    Midds   .273

    Ross     .167

    Napoli  .130

     

    SLG%

    Iggy     .667

    Nava    .571

    Ciriaco .500

    Midds   .400

    Ellsb    .394

    Pedey  .364

    Gomes .364

    S Vict   .318

    Naps    .261

    JBJ       .235

    Ross     .167

     

     
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    Re: A Realistic View at 2013: Part II

    RED SOX (3-2)
    Ellsbury CF
    Victorino RF
    Pedroia 2B
    Napoli DH
    Middlebrooks 3B
    Nava 1B
    Saltalamacchia C
    Bradley Jr. LF
    Iglesias SS
    Pitching: LHP Jon Lester (1-0, 3.60).

    BLUE JAYS (2-3)
    Reyes SS
    Davis RF
    Cabrera LF
    Encarnacion 1B
    Arencibia DH
    DeRosa 5
    Izturis 2B
    Blanco C
    Bonifacio CF
    Pitching: R.A. Dickey (0-1, 4.50).

     

    We get to see Nava at 1B today. It's probably a good thing to give Naps a bit of a rest at DH. It's a long season, and he's never had a 600+ PA season.

    We face the knuckler today. Could be a wild one.

    4-2 sounds so much better than 3-3.

    Laughing

     
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