A Realistic View at 2013: Part II

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    Lester is under control through 2014. (Team option for 2014 at 13 million.)

    Pedroia is under control through 2015. (Team option for 2015 at 11 million.)

    The really good news - Buchholz is under control through 2017. (Team options for 2016 and 2017 at a total of 26.5 million.)

    Locking these 3 up at these terms was one of Theo's best moves. 

     



    if only he could have nabbed jacoby too...

     

     



    No so easy with a BorA$$ client

     



    it wasn't for a lack of trying though, seemed like every offseason you'd hear rumors of Theo meeting with Ells and Boras to try and get a deal done. but like we all know, Boras urges his clients to go year2year until they hit FA.

    BTW Middlebrooks seems like a guy who would extend before he hits FA. it seems like with every media appearance he mentions how much he loves this city, how much fun he has playing for the team and so on...

     
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    Lester is under control through 2014. (Team option for 2014 at 13 million.)

    Pedroia is under control through 2015. (Team option for 2015 at 11 million.)

    The really good news - Buchholz is under control through 2017. (Team options for 2016 and 2017 at a total of 26.5 million.)

    Locking these 3 up at these terms was one of Theo's best moves. 

     



    if only he could have nabbed jacoby too...

     

     



    No so easy with a BorA$$ client

     

     



    it wasn't for a lack of trying though, seemed like every offseason you'd hear rumors of Theo meeting with Ells and Boras to try and get a deal done. but like we all know, Boras urges his clients to go year2year until they hit FA.

     

    BTW Middlebrooks seems like a guy who would extend before he hits FA. it seems like with every media appearance he mentions how much he loves this city, how much fun he has playing for the team and so on...




    I'm not sold 100% on Middlebrooks thus far. No rush there.

     
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    Lester is under control through 2014. (Team option for 2014 at 13 million.)

    Pedroia is under control through 2015. (Team option for 2015 at 11 million.)

    The really good news - Buchholz is under control through 2017. (Team options for 2016 and 2017 at a total of 26.5 million.)

    Locking these 3 up at these terms was one of Theo's best moves. 

     



    if only he could have nabbed jacoby too...

     

     



    No so easy with a BorA$$ client

     

     



    it wasn't for a lack of trying though, seemed like every offseason you'd hear rumors of Theo meeting with Ells and Boras to try and get a deal done. but like we all know, Boras urges his clients to go year2year until they hit FA.

     

    BTW Middlebrooks seems like a guy who would extend before he hits FA. it seems like with every media appearance he mentions how much he loves this city, how much fun he has playing for the team and so on...

     




     

    I'm not sold 100% on Middlebrooks thus far. No rush there.



    i agree completely, i would like to see more discipline and some consistency before i am ready to commit long term financially.

     
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    If we hit luxury tax issues next year, we can probably restructure Lackey's deal that right now includes the minimum wage season team option that does not affect his average annual salary figure. He is owed $15.25M for 2014 and the Sox will likely take the minimum wage option for 2016, but since it is an option, it does not reduce his average yearly salary figure applied towards the luxury tax limit. I think since he will be due a little less than $16M for 2015+2016, we could restructure to $12M for 2015 and $6.5M for 2016. That would give him a little more money and us almost $7M subtracted from our 2015 luxury tax total.

    However, if we foresee needing more cap space in 2016, we may choose not to do it and save about $7M from that year's cap limit number.

    Choices are there.

     
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    When you think about it, 189 million is an extremely generous payroll cap.

     
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    If we hit luxury tax issues next year, we can probably restructure Lackey's deal that right now includes the minimum wage season team option that does not affect his average annual salary figure. He is owed $15.25M for 2014 and the Sox will likely take the minimum wage option for 2016, but since it is an option, it does not reduce his average yearly salary figure applied towards the luxury tax limit. I think since he will be due a little less than $16M for 2015+2016, we could restructure to $12M for 2015 and $6.5M for 2016. That would give him a little more money and us almost $7M subtracted from our 2015 luxury tax total.

    However, if we foresee needing more cap space in 2016, we may choose not to do it and save about $7M from that year's cap limit number.

    Choices are there.



    can they do that??

     
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    If we hit luxury tax issues next year, we can probably restructure Lackey's deal that right now includes the minimum wage season team option that does not affect his average annual salary figure. He is owed $15.25M for 2014 and the Sox will likely take the minimum wage option for 2016, but since it is an option, it does not reduce his average yearly salary figure applied towards the luxury tax limit. I think since he will be due a little less than $16M for 2015+2016, we could restructure to $12M for 2015 and $6.5M for 2016. That would give him a little more money and us almost $7M subtracted from our 2015 luxury tax total.

    However, if we foresee needing more cap space in 2016, we may choose not to do it and save about $7M from that year's cap limit number.

    Choices are there.

     



    can they do that??

     



    I think the union would have to approve, but as long as the restructuring does not reduce the overall payout, I think there won't be a problem. If they give him a tiny bit more, how can they say no?

     
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    Tough games- tough day.

     
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    Tough games- tough day.



    Miller made it a little easier to decide who goes when Morales makes it back. No question I would get rid of him by any means necessary. You cannot have a RP come in and be wild as consistently as he is.

     
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    Where were Moon and Softlaw all day and then they walk in the door together?



    Are you going to post these same lies on every thread?

    I was here all day long posting nearly every hour of the day.

     
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    Tough games- tough day.

     



    Miller made it a little easier to decide who goes when Morales makes it back. No question I would get rid of him by any means necessary. You cannot have a RP come in and be wild as consistently as he is.

     




    I'm sure no one feels worse than Miller himself, but you do have a legitimate point.  A relief pitcher without control really has very limited business on the staff unless it's strictly for long relief.  Even then, like today, he inherited a bases empty situation...and failed.

    If Breslow is effective when he returns, between him and Morales, I agree that his days are numbered.

    It would be nice if the coaching staff could solve the problem because, basically, Miller has great stuff, velocity and he's left-handed.  I hope this isn't just wishful thinking.

     

     
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    Where were Moon and Softlaw all day and then they walk in the door together?

     



    Are you going to post these same lies on every thread?

     

    I was here all day long posting nearly every hour of the day.




    Moon, don't waste your time and effort.  The 'Nerd-boy' is only here to irritate.

    If I remember correctly, I think you once said that you didn't believe in the ignore button.  This may be possible cause for exception?

     
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    Tough games- tough day.

     



    Miller made it a little easier to decide who goes when Morales makes it back. No question I would get rid of him by any means necessary. You cannot have a RP come in and be wild as consistently as he is.

     

     




     

    I'm sure no one feels worse than Miller himself, but you do have a legitimate point.  A relief pitcher without control really has very limited business on the staff unless it's strictly for long relief.  Even then, like today, he inherited a bases empty situation...and failed.

    If Breslow is effective when he returns, between him and Morales, I agree that his days are numbered.

    It would be nice if the coaching staff could solve the problem because, basically, Miller has great stuff, velocity and he's left-handed.  I hope this isn't just wishful thinking.

     



    Milleris fantastic vs LH batters. That should be his only role. I hate to play Monday morning QB, but I'd have let Taz go 2 innings.

     
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    Stop engaging it. You will only encourage it.  




    Yeah...you're right, Burrito.

     
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    Oakland for 3 then Houston for 4, all at home. Good time to go 5-2.

    Doubront x 2 

    Aceves x 2

    Lester

    Buchholz

    Dempster

     
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    Then, we line up nicely with Toronto at Toronto:

    Lester, Buch and Dempster

     
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    I think Webster did real well tonight even though giving up those two bombs.

    In my feebile mind, there is no doubt that he will eventually, and not that far off at all, do great.  The kid throws strikes and besides great velocity, he gets his changeup and other stuff over the plate.

    This has been a tremendous positive learning experience for him.

    We've got a real gem here you guys.

    By the way, I wonder if things would have turned out a little different today if Iggy was at SS.

     
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    Tough games- tough day.

     



    Miller made it a little easier to decide who goes when Morales makes it back. No question I would get rid of him by any means necessary. You cannot have a RP come in and be wild as consistently as he is.

     

     




     

    I'm sure no one feels worse than Miller himself, but you do have a legitimate point.  A relief pitcher without control really has very limited business on the staff unless it's strictly for long relief.  Even then, like today, he inherited a bases empty situation...and failed.

    If Breslow is effective when he returns, between him and Morales, I agree that his days are numbered.

    It would be nice if the coaching staff could solve the problem because, basically, Miller has great stuff, velocity and he's left-handed.  I hope this isn't just wishful thinking.

     



    I don't much care how Miller felt, and the coaching staff has had sufficient time to fix his control problems. If Morales and Breslow return soon Miller is odd man out. Maybe we can get some low level prospect for him.

     
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    I think Webster did real well tonight even though giving up those two bombs.

    In my feebile mind, there is no doubt that he will eventually, and not that far off at all, do great.  The kid throws strikes and besides great velocity, he gets his changeup and other stuff over the plate.

    This has been a tremendous positive learning experience for him.

    We've got a real gem here you guys.

    By the way, I wonder if things would have turned out a little different today if Iggy was at SS.



    I wasn't going to say anything about the Drew-Iggy defensive comparative, but I will say, the pace of plays missed is still in my projected 60-100 over 150 games range.

    Webster looked real good. A win might have helped his confidence more, but he should know, he did enough for us to get the win.

     
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    Oakland for 3 then Houston for 4, all at home. Good time to go 5-2.

    Doubront x 2 

    Aceves x 2

    Lester

    Buchholz

    Dempster


    I wish the Red Sox can play Houston 18 times this season.   LOL

     

     
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    Oakland for 3 then Houston for 4, all at home. Good time to go 5-2.

    Doubront x 2 

    Aceves x 2

    Lester

    Buchholz

    Dempster

     

     


    I wish the Red Sox can play Houston 18 times this season.   LOL

     



    It would be nice, but then we'd have 18 vs LAA, TEX, & OAK as well.

     
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    Webster looked nervous as heck but perhaps he was being extra cautious, which is good. He seemed to be able to get his curveball over for strikes. I would seriously consider using it more often. His changeup appears decent and if he can keep that fastball low he will get lots of grounders and bad contact.

    Bring up Iglesias and let him pitch! JK.

    Seriously though, they needed a start out of him but they also have some roster issues coming up they will need some decisions on. I think Aceves is gone, baby, gone within a month. They now feel pretty well about Webster as a 6th starter. KC is a good hitting team. They are not slouches. Webster did well.

    They might think they can get by with Morales, Webster, De La Rosa, Ranaudo, Doyle as starter depth. Even Wright, Britton or Hernandez could slot in as a worst case scenario.

    They can't protect all their pitchers with Lackey, Morales, Breslow coming back to the team. They probably don't want to just release Mortensen. I think the Webster audition gives them some trade flexibility.   

     

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