A Realistic View at 2013: Part II

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    Moon, I hear what you are saying about Tazawa and I actually think he has a better shot now as a starter than he did earlier. He came back well from TJ surgury. He controls the game well and has several pitches he can get over the plate. He knows how to pitch and has composure. If needed we could slot him as a starter but at this point I would just keep him as a solid reliever and count on him all year in that slot.

    For starter depth we do have:

    Buchholz

    Lester

    Dempster

    Lackey

    Doubront

    Btw, I think all these guys will have decent years. Some even great years.

    I do not agree. There is only a slim chance all 5 have decent and healthy years.

     

    Then:

    Morales: He may not start one game this year.

    Webster I like this kid a lot and think he should be in the rotation right now, but if we want to win it all this year, it's a gamble.

    RDLR I do not think he's ready yet- maybe later this year, but more likely next year is his target date.

    Aceves He's having a hard time this year, but could turn it around.

    Hernandez No.

    Ranaudo No.

    Workman No.

    That is decent depth. A lot more than most teams have. Morales, Webster, RDLR, Aceves is a lot of starter depth in itself. And the pen is real solid. All of the above guys will have some mlb level experience.

    Tazawa is better than all of these guys and has a good chance to be better than Dempster, Lackey and Doubront.

    Teams inevitably need an extra starter or 2 every year but I have no problem with the depth we have. Morales, Webster and RDLR all may well end up as good as some of our current starters. And I'm actually confident in what Lackey is going to give us. He appears healthy and when he was healthy he had a proven track record. 

    Our starter depth is good, but Taz is better.

     
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    OK, guys, I'm jumping in with 2 cents worth on the pitching.  I watched Doubie a couple nights ago and he was frustrating like last year when he would get off track, "nibble" as Moon says, and throw two or three walks in a row.  However, back in the day, the 60's, they used to say that pitchers weren't ready for the big show until they'd done 5-7 years in the minors.  I'm for staying patient with Douby.  I think he's fine now for a 4/5 starter and can improve.

    Next, I've supported Aceves here but I'm losing patience with him.  Maybe he's a long reliever only, maybe he's injured, or maybe like others say he's just nuts.  But he just seems to be alarmingly off track and I hate us to give up games.  I get having a bad game once in a while, but what's with the balks?  Seems like a vet pitcher should be beyond that.  I would be much more comfortable with Taz or Webster in that role, and I guess I would prefer Webster who's already stretched out and was successful in ST and his first start.  After Bard, I'm not in favor of changing guys' roles once the seaston starts.  If Taz is doing well now, let's keep him there.  (I don't however think every pitcher is like Bard and will implode on changing roles.  Taz's makeup may be different and I think he could be a starter in the future.)

    Well, my boy Wright didn't do so well last night.  I don't just crow when I'm right about something.  Oh Moon, Eric Chavez whom I recommended a couple of years ago for us to pick up as back up infielder, DH, PH, etc. and then went on to play great for the NYY--he's having another good year for Arizona.  He's the type guy who probably can't play full time, bad back, but has some good skills and veteran leadership for a team.

    I would love to go to a game in Portland this summer!  Maybe some other guys will be around.

     

     
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    Just thought of something I noticed about Mortenson the other night--he was much more herky jerky, arms and elbows, violent arm motion than I remember from last year.  I immediately thought, wow, this is an injury waiting to happen.  I'm definitely not a pitching authority, going on looks only, but did any of you notice this or see a concern?

     
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    Boomer, the last thing in the world I'd want to say is that RDLR isn't the real deal.  But, like you said, coming off TJ surgery could make a difference.  Especially for this year.  This is the reason that, temporarily at least, Webster could be the guy to help out in the real near future.

    As Moon has pointed out, it could all depend where we are in the thick of things later on.

    In essence, it's a beautiful thing to be discussing who our next SOLID starting pitchers could be based on reality.  Both guys could turn out to be gems.

    Since Lackey is just really coming off TJ surgery, his control was really phenominal which was surprising because as you mentioned, control is an issue after coming back from it.  I'm really hoping that his return to the starting rotation is a positive injection to the lower end of the rotation.  How could it not be?  I guess he's scheduled for Sunday vs Houston....

    Morales has a sore pectoral and Breslow was terrible in his return.  Baseball can sure be fickle.

     
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    I would love to go to a game in Portland this summer!  Maybe some other guys will be around.

     

    I'll be in the Portland area form July 16th to 30th. I hope we can plan a big BDC brigade for a Dogs game.

     
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    I would love to go to a game in Portland this summer!  Maybe some other guys will be around.

     

    I'll be in the Portland area form July 16th to 30th. I hope we can plan a big BDC brigade for a Dogs game.



    They have two four-game weekend series, the 18th-21st and the 25-28th, both Thursday through Sunday. I'm only about 200 miles away and would make the road trip.

     
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    I'll be in the Portland area form July 16th to 30th. I hope we can plan a big BDC brigade for a Dogs game.

     



    They have two four-game weekend series, the 18th-21st and the 25-28th, both Thursday through Sunday. I'm only about 200 miles away and would make the road trip.

     

    Let's see when the most people can make it, and plan as we get closer to the date.

    I suggest we meet at The Pizza Villa an hour or so before the game. It's about a block away from the stadium.

    I'm fine with either series and could go to more than one game if some can't make it on a certain weekend.

     
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    I wish it was Portland, Oregon..Frown

     
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    Never been to the left coast, unless you count Acapulco and Puerto Escondido.

     
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    Moon, you could use a tad more time on the left coast. I need you as a full convert with Softy, Bill and Burrito breath in full reactionary mode around here. I want you on that wall...I need you on that wall!

    We can agree to disagree on Tazawa. It's not a clear cut call to me. I do see the merit of the option. I just lean to not doing it. Regarding 'all the top starters having good years, I assumed if they are healthy. No one can guarantee health.

    I'm watching the game. Ortiz is not motoring like he used to. Almost just got thrown out at 2nd. 

     
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    I don't see Ortiz staying healthy this year. The guy is running on his tip toes.

     
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    In response to RedsoxProspects' comment:

    Moon, you could use a tad more time on the left coast. I need you as a full convert with Softy, Bill and Burrito breath in full reactionary mode around here. I want you on that wall...I need you on that wall!

    We can agree to disagree on Tazawa. It's not a clear cut call to me. I do see the merit of the option. I just lean to not doing it. Regarding 'all the top starters having good years, I assumed if they are healthy. No one can guarantee health.

    I'm watching the game. Ortiz is not motoring like he used to. Almost just got thrown out at 2nd. 




    I think we got a break on that second base call.  He VERY easily could have been called out.

     
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    We can agree to disagree on Tazawa. It's not a clear cut call to me. I do see the merit of the option. I just lean to not doing it. Regarding 'all the top starters having good years, I assumed if they are healthy. No one can guarantee health.

    I know it's not a clear call. It's risky.

    My position is that unless you are a closer or have health issues that don't allow you to throw a hundred pitches+ in an outing, the pen is for guys not good enough to crack the starting rotation. I know that may be a bit old school, and with today's specialized roles for 7th and 8th inning guns, I get the importance of those slots, but having your best 5 guys going 5-7 innings every 3 days helps more than going 1 innings every other day. Now, if our SPs continue to do well and Doubie improves, there's no need to rush Taz into that role, but as I said all winter, I'd have stretched Tazawa out to a starter/long man and traded Doubront while his stock was rather high (not that it can't get much higher).

     
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    So they call up Lavarnway for Aceves. Lavarnway? I get that he is doing well in AAA. What this tells me though is that Ortiz may be back on the DL soon. Ortiz is hitting but maybe they want to rest him for a day or so until Lackey comes up. And give Lavarnway a chance to contribute. Keep him motivated and involved. It's probably only for a couple days.

     
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    So they call up Lavarnway for Aceves. Lavarnway? I get that he is doing well in AAA. What this tells me though is that Ortiz may be back on the DL soon. Ortiz is hitting but maybe they want to rest him for a day or so until Lackey comes up. And give Lavarnway a chance to contribute. Keep him motivated and involved. It's probably only for a couple days.



    I know people are down on Gomes for the low BA, but his OBP is still at .381. 

    The only advanatge of this move is that we can PH for either catcher and not worry about a catcher injury... pretty remote.

     
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    Lavarnway has a great arm and he's hitting over .300.  Maybe Ross's days are numbered?

     
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    In response to TV-Guy's comment:

    I would love to see Lavarnway come up and relace Salty. I am always in favor of everything that makes our Red Sox better. Forgive me for my Homerism.



    Hard to tell if your first ever actual baseball post was satire.

     
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    Victorino is hurt some. But Lavarnway can't help with that. To me it is a DH play, to give Ortiz a day off and maybe play Gomes in LF against LH pitching, Nava in RF. All this for 1-2 days of PT probably. 

    But I think that is a good idea at least. Hopefully LAvarnway gets his groove back and takes it home from here.

    Maybe it is part of a catcher trade also. Heh, it's possible. A 10% chance. Teams ask for talent all the time and maybe we feel good about our talent level at catcher. Even Vasquez has been solid recently, a real mover. And I still think Swihart is a very special talent long term.

     
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    If you've been following the minors much, there are some pretty exciting things going on down in Portland and Salem. Cechinni and Coyle are absolutely on fire, with Cechinni having a great day today against one of the top prospects in that league. He absolutely looks to be taking it to another level this year. And Coyle is restoring his status as a potential top guy. Gotta love what is happening down there.

    We keep hearing about our glut at 3rd base. It may well be that as Cechinni's pop continues to increase he might end up someday as our RF.

    And Bogaerts has been putting up solid numbers for 2 weeks now, getting his OPS over .800 now with a .300 average. We can't expect all these guys to consistently put up solid numbers every year but that kid seems to be doing it even as possibly the youngest player in the Eastern League. That is a lot to expect of a young kid like that. And he's a freaking SS no less.

    I don't care if 90% of our minor league guys absolutely stink. I'll take a few premium studs from each team every day of the week.

     
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    You big stud-muffin, Boomer...  Laughing

    Seriously, thanks for the info....

     
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    Victorino is hurt some. But Lavarnway can't help with that. To me it is a DH play, to give Ortiz a day off and maybe play Gomes in LF against LH pitching, Nava in RF. All this for 1-2 days of PT probably. 

    But I think that is a good idea at least. Hopefully LAvarnway gets his groove back and takes it home from here.

    Maybe it is part of a catcher trade also. Heh, it's possible. A 10% chance. Teams ask for talent all the time and maybe we feel good about our talent level at catcher. Even Vasquez has been solid recently, a real mover. And I still think Swihart is a very special talent long term.



    Yes, maybe the Victorino injury is worse than we think, and Gomes and nava will fill the OF void.

    I really don't expect Papi to miss many games from now on, but Dr. softy thinks otherwise.

     
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    Boston's next four games are against Houston.  I expect Boston to sweep the four-game series.  

    Speaking of Houston, I was hoping that the Red Sox would face Houston (e.g. Clemens and Pettite) in the 2004 World Series.   Too bad that did not happen.  

     
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    In response to RedsoxProspects' comment:

     

    So they call up Lavarnway for Aceves. Lavarnway? I get that he is doing well in AAA. What this tells me though is that Ortiz may be back on the DL soon. Ortiz is hitting but maybe they want to rest him for a day or so until Lackey comes up. And give Lavarnway a chance to contribute. Keep him motivated and involved. It's probably only for a couple days.

     




    Just a place holder until Lackey gets back because there are no other guys on the 40-man that make any sense besides Hassan and Holt.

     

     
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    In response to TV-Guy's comment:

    I would love to see Lavarnway come up and relace Salty. I am always in favor of everything that makes our Red Sox better. Forgive me for my Homerism.




    sarcastic much? doesnt sound like it.

     
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