A Realistic View at 2013: Part II

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    The Yankees always have to be considered the team to beat. To underestimate them is foolhardy. 

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    The cockroaches are always there,  and that's how I feel about the Yankees. Always lurking under rocks, and in the shadows.

     
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    I'm not superstitious, but it seems like everytime some poster counts the Yankess out, they go on a tear.

    Sox4ever

     
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    In response to RedsoxProspects' comment:

    Call me a dummy then because I don't think the Yanks are as strong a team as the Redsox, Rays, Orioles or Toronto. They have been winning with smoke and mirrors all year. It's about time Babylon came crashing to the ground. They have made it this far mainly on pitching. When a staff is worked hard things can happen. And if anything, I think Arod will end up a liability.



    They get Grandy and Jete back soon. Then, it won't be smoke and mirrors.

     
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    This just in:  Miller to the DL.  Aceves on the way. 

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    Yankees win with smoke, mirrors and Mariano.  It is a nice feeling to enter the ninth with a lead and have confidence that you will hold it. It means a lot, and it is a feeling that we have not had in a while. 

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    Yankees win with smoke, mirrors and Mariano.  It is a nice feeling to enter the ninth with a lead and have confidence that you will hold it. It means a lot, and it is a feeling that we have not had in a while. 

    Stabbed by Foulke.



    I think I just put the hex on Rivera. He just blew a save against the O's.  I will have to keep that for future use. 

     
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    I know this is probably best saved for the "A Realictic View at 2014: part I", but with the deadline approaching, it may effect what we do this summer...

    The Sox will surely lose a quality player or two to rule 5, unless we get proactive and make some 2 and 3 for 1 deals soon. It's not easy to make those type of trades in winter, since, as hill pointed out, every team is facing a roster crunch at that time.

    (I added the BOLD for those players of most importance. Red is a must keeper.)

     

    The following players will be eligible for the 2013 Rule 5 Draft if they are not added to the 40-man roster by November 20, 2013:

    Mario Alcantara, Michael Almanzar, Chris Balcom-Miller, Carson Blair,Xander Bogaerts, Bryce Brentz, Chris Carpenter, Garin Cecchini,Keith Couch, William Cuevas, Keury De La Cruz, Luis Diaz, Leonel Escobar, Derrik Gibson, Dreily Guerrero, Jeremy Hazelbaker, Jayson Hernandez, Chris Hernandez, Peter Hissey, Brandon Jacobs, Jeremy Kehrt, Aaron King, Aaron Kurcz, Juan Carlos Linares, Mario Martinez, Heiker Meneses, Boss Moanaroa, Nefi Ogando, Gerardo Olivares, Yunior Ortega, Oscar Perez, Rafael Perez, Mathew Price, Anthony Ranaudo, David Renfroe, Pete Ruiz, Felix Sanchez, Brandon Snyder, Alfredo Soto, Kyle Stroup, Francisco Taveras, Raynel Velette, Jose Vinicio, Kolbrin Vitek, Stefan Welch, Shannon Wilkerson, Brandon Workman, Madison Younginer

    I see it this way: The players not in red could be packages to get a better prospect or prospects not in need of being protected from rule 5, or a useful 2 month rental.

     

    Here's how our roster shapes up next year, assuming no re-signings, FA signings, or trades (assume Lester is back at $13M option):

    25 man:

    12 pitchers: Buch, Lest, Lack, Demp, Doub, Ace, Mora, Bail, Ueh, Taz, Miller, Bres, Wils

    13 position: Lava, Ross, Papi, Midd, Ped, Iggy, Bog, Nava, JBJ, SV, Gomes,Carp, Holt

    The other 15:

    1- 8: Bogaerts, Webster, de la Rosa, Cecchini, Ranaudo,  Vazquez, Brentz, Workman

    9 de la Torre

    10 Britton

    11 Beato

    12 Snyder

    13 Diaz (?)

    14 Hassan (?)

    15 Wright (?)

    16 Kalish (?)

    17 Bard (?)

    18 Butler (?)

    19- 24: Almanzar, Hazelbaker, de la Cruz, Jacobs, Vinicio, Capenter

    and others

    Now, we almost certainly will add a Catcher, OF'er and corner IF'er, plus maybe a pitcher or two. Let's say we sign 5 including Lester or 4 with Lester.

    That means everyone listed under Beato is open to rule 5. My guess is we make some 2 or 3 for one deals this deadline in order to avoid losing quality depth. It might mean we trade some guys above the Beato line to make room for some below while strengthening other areas on the 25 man roster or on the farm.

    We could also trade some players above the line to make room for players below the line.

    Some players that may be moved this winter: Lester (refuse option or trade), Bailey, Morales, Miller, Wilson, Ross (depends on salty's return), Lava, Aceves, Holt, Gomes, Brentz, de la Torre, or Beato

     

     

     

    Sox4ever

     
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    In response to BurritoT-'s comment:

     

     

    July 7, 2013 the day Iggy fell below .400




    and the decent back to reality has officially begun.

     
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    His failure to cover 3B with the shift on was not good, but this kid has proven he is a great ML fielder and better at the plate than he has ever looked in his career.

    Sox4ever

     
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    What will Iggy's contract be worth next year?

    Sox4ever

     
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    Hi guys, been in Maine about a month.  Moon, you coming around the 23rd?  Think I have your Dad's number...Sat's game killed me, thought it was first time Farrell didn't use good judgement to save the game.  Thought Bailey should have pitched last, not first of closers.  The kid looked nervous and not used to closing.  Hate to lose games with a four run lead.  Though Snyder has played well, I thought he freaked on the error too.  Amazed at how Lackey and the 3,4,5 guys and Aceves have filled in in Buch's absence and how the team has hit lately.  I'm just afraid the bullpen reductions and overwork might catch up with us...Hope to see some of you in Maine...Critter

     
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    PS This guy Iggy who hadn't earned a right to hit in the majors, man he's been a real anchor dragging the team down.  Why don't they get rid of him, send him down, make him earn his way on the team?  All these lucky bloop hits, infield singles, and beating out hits--I just hate the aesthetics of that.  I guess his glove's ok; maybe that's why they keep him around.  Critter

     
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    Hey crit, what's up with the new user name?

    I'll be in Maine from the 16th to 31st. Give me a call.

    We may end up with a bunch of posters going to a Sea Dogs game. Keep checking in here for a date that works best for most of us.

     

    Sox4ever

     
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    In response to southpaw777's comment:

     

    In response to BurritoT-'s comment:

     

     

     

     

     

    July 7, 2013 the day Iggy fell below .400

     

     




    and the decent back to reality has officially begun.

     

     

     



    Nobody expected Iggy to stay over .400, but even though he has dipped below .400, he's still hitting...

     

    .300 in the last 7 days

    .318 in the last 14 days

    .346 in his last 28 days

     

    .309 in his last 365 days (245 PAs)

     
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    moon, never got an opportunity to give Lackey his due. Saw him in person on Sunday, and I'm very thrilled with him...It's nice to see a guy who is overpaid not just end up a buyout or trade after poor performance tied into a bad wing. He has been an ace out there, and he continues to be consistent. Bravo to the Big Texan who also lost a lot of weight.

     
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    In response to Lowell21's comment:

    The forum was unduly harsh on Lackey in forgetting that he was pitching injured, had personal issues involving a bitter divorce, his wife's cancer. and confronting the Boston press about Chickengate.  He stayed above it all and worked hard on rehab and getting over his personal problems. Many on the forum who enjoyed bashing him are now eating crow, have egg on their face, but excuse it by saying that they were wrong but that is their right to bash and be wrong. Bashing your players id their God-given right.




    Lowell, I was very harsh on him, and did use him as a whipping boy to the Sox myriad of bad signings and bad performances. Except he deserved a good deal of the criticism. Yes he had a bad wing, but his attitude was poor and this was exhibited on the mound during games and sometimes when he was yanked. I could care less about his divorce, or the greasy chicken/beer gate, as I don't think that has anything to do with the team's performance or a player's performance. Lackey did a rare thing in Boston. He endured the heat, he didn't demand a trade or ask for his release, or ask for a buyout. He lost 25 pounds and he turned it around, and is pitching about as well as any guy out there. Crawford could take some lessons from Lackey. John earned a lot of respect through his actions. And I'm happy for him, and happy for the Sox to see him become a go-to SP. Ironically, part of the reason the Sox gave him the 82 million. So now he's earning it.

     
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    I've never been so glad to eat crow on Mr. Lackey.

     
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    He's showing a lot of character out there.

    Bravo!

    Sox4ever

     
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    Man, did we see the need for JBJ in tonight's game or what? We should have known that it would be a disaster in the OF with that defensive lineup.

    I think they tried to get through the all star break without having to put Victorino on the DL but the guy is on one day out 2 days a lot. 

    I agree with Moon on the rule 5 issue. They need to bundle some of these guys together and trade them. 

    if you look at almanzar's numbers he looks for real now. Do we hold onto him one more year? I'd rather keep him than Kalish at this point. I think he has around 22 doubles and 11 HR. Those are decent numbers and he is still pretty young.

    Big game for Swihart tonight. On base 4 times. I'd like to see him surge in the 2nd half as he did last year.

    A case could be made that Cechinni is actually our best minor league bat. The guy is still hitting over .400 in AA ball after demolishing the Carolina league. Has anyone got better numbers in the minors at this point? i mean in all of baseball? He still doesn't have the HR pop but he is an on base machine and doing his best Wade Boggs imitation now all year. Gotta love it! The kid hasn't missed a beat. If anything he looks like he is continuing to improve. We may even see him at 3rd this year the way things are going. Will he pull an Ellsbury and come up just before the playoffs and earn a starting spot?

     

     
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    Looks like we might sign Longhi and Sheffield by the end of this week. A real decent haul from this year's draft even though we won't see most of these guys for another 4-5 years. Lots of high school kids.

     
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    Man, did we see the need for JBJ in tonight's game or what? We should have known that it would be a disaster in the OF with that defensive lineup.

    I think they tried to get through the all star break without having to put Victorino on the DL but the guy is on one day out 2 days a lot. 

    I agree with Moon on the rule 5 issue. They need to bundle some of these guys together and trade them. 

    if you look at almanzar's numbers he looks for real now. Do we hold onto him one more year? I'd rather keep him than Kalish at this point. I think he has around 22 doubles and 11 HR. Those are decent numbers and he is still pretty young.

    Big game for Swihart tonight. On base 4 times. I'd like to see him surge in the 2nd half as he did last year.

    A case could be made that Cechinni is actually our best minor league bat. The guy is still hitting over .400 in AA ball after demolishing the Carolina league. Has anyone got better numbers in the minors at this point? i mean in all of baseball? He still doesn't have the HR pop but he is an on base machine and doing his best Wade Boggs imitation now all year. Gotta love it! The kid hasn't missed a beat. If anything he looks like he is continuing to improve. We may even see him at 3rd this year the way things are going. Will he pull an Ellsbury and come up just before the playoffs and earn a starting spot?

     



    The FA signings of Victorino, Drew and Napoli are not looking to good right now. I think Naps will turn it around, but he is known for long cold streaks- sometimes a near a whole season long.

    On bundling some rule 5 borderline prospects (either side of the "border"), some guys like Vinicio will not be taken in the draft, since there's no way they stay on anyone's 25 man roster all year, but we will lose 1-2 decent prospects. Why not trade 3 right now for one better prospect or a player that can help us out of the jam we are in with all these injuries piling up.

     
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    Realistic is a 3-7 road trip. Realistic is a bullpen that absolutely stinks. Realistic is Napoli stinking for months. Realistic is Ellsbreaky as the original Man of Glass. Realistic is Alex Wilson is an AAA pitcher for life. Realistic is bullpen help or no playoffs.

    WE ARE ALL JUST POPPYSEEDS IN THE BAKERY OF LIFE

     

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