A Realistic View at 2013: Part II

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    Hi guys, been in Maine about a month.  Moon, you coming around the 23rd?  Think I have your Dad's number...Sat's game killed me, thought it was first time Farrell didn't use good judgement to save the game.  Thought Bailey should have pitched last, not first of closers.  The kid looked nervous and not used to closing.  Hate to lose games with a four run lead.  Though Snyder has played well, I thought he freaked on the error too.  Amazed at how Lackey and the 3,4,5 guys and Aceves have filled in in Buch's absence and how the team has hit lately.  I'm just afraid the bullpen reductions and overwork might catch up with us...Hope to see some of you in Maine...Critter

     
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    PS This guy Iggy who hadn't earned a right to hit in the majors, man he's been a real anchor dragging the team down.  Why don't they get rid of him, send him down, make him earn his way on the team?  All these lucky bloop hits, infield singles, and beating out hits--I just hate the aesthetics of that.  I guess his glove's ok; maybe that's why they keep him around.  Critter

     
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    Hey crit, what's up with the new user name?

    I'll be in Maine from the 16th to 31st. Give me a call.

    We may end up with a bunch of posters going to a Sea Dogs game. Keep checking in here for a date that works best for most of us.

     

    Sox4ever

     
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    In response to southpaw777's comment:

     

    In response to BurritoT-'s comment:

     

     

     

     

     

    July 7, 2013 the day Iggy fell below .400

     

     




    and the decent back to reality has officially begun.

     

     

     



    Nobody expected Iggy to stay over .400, but even though he has dipped below .400, he's still hitting...

     

    .300 in the last 7 days

    .318 in the last 14 days

    .346 in his last 28 days

     

    .309 in his last 365 days (245 PAs)

     
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    moon, never got an opportunity to give Lackey his due. Saw him in person on Sunday, and I'm very thrilled with him...It's nice to see a guy who is overpaid not just end up a buyout or trade after poor performance tied into a bad wing. He has been an ace out there, and he continues to be consistent. Bravo to the Big Texan who also lost a lot of weight.

     
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    In response to Lowell21's comment:

    The forum was unduly harsh on Lackey in forgetting that he was pitching injured, had personal issues involving a bitter divorce, his wife's cancer. and confronting the Boston press about Chickengate.  He stayed above it all and worked hard on rehab and getting over his personal problems. Many on the forum who enjoyed bashing him are now eating crow, have egg on their face, but excuse it by saying that they were wrong but that is their right to bash and be wrong. Bashing your players id their God-given right.




    Lowell, I was very harsh on him, and did use him as a whipping boy to the Sox myriad of bad signings and bad performances. Except he deserved a good deal of the criticism. Yes he had a bad wing, but his attitude was poor and this was exhibited on the mound during games and sometimes when he was yanked. I could care less about his divorce, or the greasy chicken/beer gate, as I don't think that has anything to do with the team's performance or a player's performance. Lackey did a rare thing in Boston. He endured the heat, he didn't demand a trade or ask for his release, or ask for a buyout. He lost 25 pounds and he turned it around, and is pitching about as well as any guy out there. Crawford could take some lessons from Lackey. John earned a lot of respect through his actions. And I'm happy for him, and happy for the Sox to see him become a go-to SP. Ironically, part of the reason the Sox gave him the 82 million. So now he's earning it.

     
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    I've never been so glad to eat crow on Mr. Lackey.

     
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    He's showing a lot of character out there.

    Bravo!

    Sox4ever

     
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    Man, did we see the need for JBJ in tonight's game or what? We should have known that it would be a disaster in the OF with that defensive lineup.

    I think they tried to get through the all star break without having to put Victorino on the DL but the guy is on one day out 2 days a lot. 

    I agree with Moon on the rule 5 issue. They need to bundle some of these guys together and trade them. 

    if you look at almanzar's numbers he looks for real now. Do we hold onto him one more year? I'd rather keep him than Kalish at this point. I think he has around 22 doubles and 11 HR. Those are decent numbers and he is still pretty young.

    Big game for Swihart tonight. On base 4 times. I'd like to see him surge in the 2nd half as he did last year.

    A case could be made that Cechinni is actually our best minor league bat. The guy is still hitting over .400 in AA ball after demolishing the Carolina league. Has anyone got better numbers in the minors at this point? i mean in all of baseball? He still doesn't have the HR pop but he is an on base machine and doing his best Wade Boggs imitation now all year. Gotta love it! The kid hasn't missed a beat. If anything he looks like he is continuing to improve. We may even see him at 3rd this year the way things are going. Will he pull an Ellsbury and come up just before the playoffs and earn a starting spot?

     

     
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    Looks like we might sign Longhi and Sheffield by the end of this week. A real decent haul from this year's draft even though we won't see most of these guys for another 4-5 years. Lots of high school kids.

     
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    Man, did we see the need for JBJ in tonight's game or what? We should have known that it would be a disaster in the OF with that defensive lineup.

    I think they tried to get through the all star break without having to put Victorino on the DL but the guy is on one day out 2 days a lot. 

    I agree with Moon on the rule 5 issue. They need to bundle some of these guys together and trade them. 

    if you look at almanzar's numbers he looks for real now. Do we hold onto him one more year? I'd rather keep him than Kalish at this point. I think he has around 22 doubles and 11 HR. Those are decent numbers and he is still pretty young.

    Big game for Swihart tonight. On base 4 times. I'd like to see him surge in the 2nd half as he did last year.

    A case could be made that Cechinni is actually our best minor league bat. The guy is still hitting over .400 in AA ball after demolishing the Carolina league. Has anyone got better numbers in the minors at this point? i mean in all of baseball? He still doesn't have the HR pop but he is an on base machine and doing his best Wade Boggs imitation now all year. Gotta love it! The kid hasn't missed a beat. If anything he looks like he is continuing to improve. We may even see him at 3rd this year the way things are going. Will he pull an Ellsbury and come up just before the playoffs and earn a starting spot?

     



    The FA signings of Victorino, Drew and Napoli are not looking to good right now. I think Naps will turn it around, but he is known for long cold streaks- sometimes a near a whole season long.

    On bundling some rule 5 borderline prospects (either side of the "border"), some guys like Vinicio will not be taken in the draft, since there's no way they stay on anyone's 25 man roster all year, but we will lose 1-2 decent prospects. Why not trade 3 right now for one better prospect or a player that can help us out of the jam we are in with all these injuries piling up.

     
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    Realistic is a 3-7 road trip. Realistic is a bullpen that absolutely stinks. Realistic is Napoli stinking for months. Realistic is Ellsbreaky as the original Man of Glass. Realistic is Alex Wilson is an AAA pitcher for life. Realistic is bullpen help or no playoffs.

    WE ARE ALL JUST POPPYSEEDS IN THE BAKERY OF LIFE

     
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    In response to pumpsie-green's comment:

    Realistic is a 3-7 road trip. Realistic is a bullpen that absolutely stinks. Realistic is Napoli stinking for months. Realistic is Ellsbreaky as the original Man of Glass. Realistic is Alex Wilson is an AAA pitcher for life. Realistic is bullpen help or no playoffs.

    WE ARE ALL JUST POPPYSEEDS IN THE BAKERY OF LIFE



    I don't disagree with anything here, but I think you sometimes fail to notice that other teams have serious issues as well. Just because we have some big issues and slumping or injured players does not mean we are alone.

    Here's a look at other AL contenders' woes:

    Detroit: Nobody can beat the Fielder- Cabrera combo, but Detroit also has some mega weak links in their line-up: C- Avila (.583 OPS), LF- Dirks (.667), and nobody on their bench over .716 with 90+ PAs. The 5 through 9 slots have these seasonal OPS: 5- .659, 6- .732, 7- .739, 8- .676, and 9 .721.

    In Contrast, the Sox have no slot below .711:

    1) .782

    2) .756

    3) .828

    4) .974

    5) .720

    6) .803

    7) .838

    8) .711

    9) .734

    Oakland: 3 guys below .688 (Norris, Soqard, & Reddick), and their line-up full of holes: 1- .801, 2- .664, 3- .697, 4- .747, 5- .839, 6- .807, 7- .789, 8- .644, 9- .578. Imagine having our 3 hitter with a .697 OPS; this board would be insane with bashing.

    Texas: A SS with a .585 OPs, a LF'er with a .669 OPS and 2 other guys below .740. The top 3 bench guys under .680. Their line-up has 3 pretty big holes: 1- .738, 2- .588, 3- .758, 4- .883, 5- .776, 6- 701, 7- 808, 8- .670, 9- .757. A 3 hitter at .758. Are you kidding me? Geo would be going ballistic on that.

    I won't even touch the Yankee line-up where black holes are swallowing each other up.

    Let's have some perspective here. 

     
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    I really think they need to start thinking about calling up a RDLR and Workman potentially as relievers. They have gotten enough innings already to be almost maxed out as starters. We have Webster, Aceves and Ranaudo as starter depth. I have no problem bundling some of the secondary prospects and maybe an Aceves for a decent left handed reliever ( which is a lot to offer up by the way so we should be able to get someone good for that package ).

    Putting Aceves back in the pen is not crazy. Overall, except for the rule 5 issue, I don't want to trade any prospects but we definitely should keep our ears open. We can't bring up everyone and lots of these guys will never make it. I do like our chances though. I think RDLR might well be a moose if we bring him up in the next week or so. He could really help. We might just as well look at Workman as a reliever for the rest of this year at least. He's probably better than some of the guys we have now and he can give us some innings. He is a Clydesdale.

     
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    I'd strongly consider bringing up JBJ also. The OF needs a better defense with these expansive outfields coming up. I know they want to keep from putting Victorino back on the DL but are we going to do this all year?

    Let's be honest here. Isn't he damaged goods at this point? Some of the plays he makes look like he is trying to look like he is injuring himself by running into walls and such. I think his back is killing him. Look how he runs. His back is a problem and I bet it's been a problem for over a year. He just doesn't want anyone to know how bad it is yet so he comes up with all these anciliary injuries and trying to make it look like he is hurting himself by running into walls and such. A few weeks ago he milked one bigtime.

    I like the guy but it does remind me of Drew. When guys have back injuries it is a miracle they can play well at all. It makes it so much more difficult. I'd roll with JBJ at this point. We are trying to win here. We have just as much control now over the JBJ contract situation if he plays or if he doesn't. Bring him up.

     
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    I'd strongly consider bringing up JBJ also. The OF needs a better defense with these expansive outfields coming up. I know they want to keep from putting Victorino back on the DL but are we going to do this all year?

    Let's be honest here. Isn't he damaged goods at this point? Some of the plays he makes look like he is trying to look like he is injuring himself by running into walls and such. I think his back is killing him. Look how he runs. His back is a problem and I bet it's been a problem for over a year. He just doesn't want anyone to know how bad it is yet so he comes up with all these anciliary injuries and trying to make it look like he is hurting himself by running into walls and such. A few weeks ago he milked one bigtime.

    I like the guy but it does remind me of Drew. When guys have back injuries it is a miracle they can play well at all. It makes it so much more difficult. I'd roll with JBJ at this point. We are trying to win here. We have just as much control now over the JBJ contract situation if he plays or if he doesn't. Bring him up.



    To think we signed SV for 3 years.

     

     
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    OK, so they bring up Aceves, Bradley and Workman. Let's see what happens. I have a feeling we may see Workman today.

    It helps to see what we have before the trading deadline. I'm not sure we are going to see Webster again for a while. He just has a way of tossing up meatballs. I'm not seeing him successful until he gets better control of his fastball. He's got to keep it lower.

    Ranaudo might get a start or 2 before long, or RDLR. That will be fun to watch. Mentally I bet both are more ready than Webster at this point. Hopefully Buchholz comes back soon.

    Let's see where Webster is next year.

     
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    OK, so they bring up Aceves, Bradley and Workman. Let's see what happens. I have a feeling we may see Workman today.

    It helps to see what we have before the trading deadline. I'm not sure we are going to see Webster again for a while. He just has a way of tossing up meatballs. I'm not seeing him successful until he gets better control of his fastball. He's got to keep it lower.

    Ranaudo might get a start or 2 before long, or RDLR. That will be fun to watch. Mentally I bet both are more ready than Webster at this point. Hopefully Buchholz comes back soon.

    Let's see where Webster is next year.




    Only in an emergency will we see workman tonight. He threw 107 pitches friday.

     
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    And, how many posters said last winter we don't need a starting pitcher?

    Sox4ever

     
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    And, how many posters said last winter we don't need a starting pitcher?

    Sox4ever




    You always need depth guys. We had a starting 5 already.

     
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    And, how many posters said last winter we don't need a starting pitcher?

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    I can't believe anybody said that after Buch led the staff with a 4.56 ERA last year.

     

     
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    And, how many posters said last winter we don't need a starting pitcher?

    Sox4ever

     



    I can't believe anybody said that after Buch led the staff with a 4.56 ERA last year.

     

     

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    Many felt Dempster was all we needed.

    Just a few weeks ago, some were touting our solid rotation and great SP depth.

    Now, we are scratching our heads and mentioning names like Workman, de la Rosa, Ranaudo, and Balcolm-Miller.

    It's a tired old baseball saying, but "you can never have too much pitching".

     
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