A Realistic View at 2013: Part II

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    I've been gone for a couple days, traveling back home, and it seems as if I never left. In fact, it looks like someone turned the clock back five years because here is Softy ranting against Ellsbury just like the good old days. Someone else mentioned this earlier, but I would love to see Ells resign here, for many years, have a great career, AND continue to read Softy explain how much slower he's gotten and how badly he breaks on balls, and my all-time favorite, how his reverse-pivot makes him a fourth outfielder profile at best.

    And if having Softy back to bash Ells isn't enough, we get the new guy, TV guy in fact, to argue, discredit and simply annoy the regulars here. Who are you and what is your point?

    Amp great to see you back! I've played and coached this game for many years and there are instincts, for lack of a better term, that can not be taught. They can be improved upon with time and repetition, but many people don't have the innate ability to run in one direction while looking over their shoulder in another for a 2 1/2 inch sphere that is 300 feet away from them. I spent most of my playing life as a catcher, but I remember when my dad first converted me from shortstop to catcher (our catcher had broken his arm on our little-league team 55 years or so ago) he said he hated to do it because I was the only player he had who knew where the ball was going to be hit and was already moving in that direction before the batter made contact. Later in life as I played more beer-belly softball games I played the outfield and I could do the same thing. No idea how or why, just instinct. Of course I needed the instincts to make up for my lack of athleticiscm relative to these MLB level players.

    Now great athletes like Ellsbury may not, in fact I know he does not, have that instinct, but with practice and repetition and experience AND with great speed, they can overcome that split second  of indecision that JD Drew, Edmunds, Paul Blair and many other great outfielders, including young Jackie Bradley, seem to possess. 

    We're off to our best start in years, in spite of Andy Pettite, why can't we all just enjoy it? 

     
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    ...You know, the one you formulated by throwing at a dart board years ago....

    It wasn't by chance (dart throw); it was all because Jacoby went to a liberal left coast university, was all hyped up by top brass, took away his beloved Coco's job, and then had the audacity to play great when softy was complaining about him having the job over Coco. The fact that he proved softy wrong early in his career cemented the hatred and vitriol for good.

     




     

    Actually, OSU(Oregon State University), where Ellsbury went, is considered the conservative university out here as compared to UO(University of Oregon).



    Aren't you up early on left coast time!

    Did anyone else have this same thought? Last night I was watching on NESN where they have added the Amica pitch zone box full time. Why is is that Pettite and Rivera only need to be near that box to get a strike called while Dempster needed to be several inches inside the box? It seemed the very definition of home-town umpiring to me, assuming that there is any accuracy to that box in the first place.

     
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    ...You know, the one you formulated by throwing at a dart board years ago....

    It wasn't by chance (dart throw); it was all because Jacoby went to a liberal left coast university, was all hyped up by top brass, took away his beloved Coco's job, and then had the audacity to play great when softy was complaining about him having the job over Coco. The fact that he proved softy wrong early in his career cemented the hatred and vitriol for good.

     




     

    Actually, OSU(Oregon State University), where Ellsbury went, is considered the conservative university out here as compared to UO(University of Oregon).

     



    Aren't you up early on left coast time!

     

    Did anyone else have this same thought? Last night I was watching on NESN where they have added the Amica pitch zone box full time. Why is is that Pettite and Rivera only need to be near that box to get a strike called while Dempster needed to be several inches inside the box? It seemed the very definition of home-town umpiring to me, assuming that there is any accuracy to that box in the first place.

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    Yeah, I was up around.. 6:30 or so...kind of normal.

    I agree with your observation. The strike zone for Dempster seemed a LOT tighter.  I didn't think he pitched that badly really.  Overbay's blooper had seeing eyes and Hafner's blast in the first row in right field would have been an out anywhere else.  And, Ross's out would probably have been a homer anywhere else.  Oh well....life goes on.

    I think nothing is worse than playing center field and have a ball hit directly at you. Man, it would paralyze me. If by chance it was a knuckler, it was even worse.  The first critical decision is to determine if the ball is coming out to you or was it fouled off the back screen  ..LOL

    Good to have you back, Jid. I hope the father-in-law is doing well.

     
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    I've been watching for jumps to the ball by outfielders on both teams and replaying it about five times from the replay angle of behind the plate. In every situation, it appears that the outfielder is already in motion by the time that he is in view on the replay. He may have taken 4-8 steps before we see said outfielder.

    Moon had to be joking when he said that he saw Ellsbury not leaning towards the plate on contact the other night. Me thinks that Moon likes to do Softlaw. That is like saying that you saw Ellsbury scratching his rear end when contact was made. This however is what makes the forum interesting. Bogus baloney.

     




    Not many replays show the third base runner as the batter makes contact.  But if Moonslav saw it , it must be true.  After all , he is all knowing. He is our leader , our elder statesman. He must never be questioned , even when posting bogus baloney.

     

     



    MOON: I just watched it again on replay. It shows the pitch and the runner from 2 different angles. Ellsbury was not even leaning towards home as the pitch reached hom plate.

     

    Two angles guys.

    Before you spew nonsensse, at least go back and watch the play from both angles, then admit it is your bogus baloney and your "arrogance" that won't allow you to see truth if it knocks you upside your noggin.

     



     

    "Ellsbury was not even leaning towards home as the pitch reached hom plate."

    "Ellsbury was not even leaning towards home as the pitch reached hom plate."

     

    Not shown in any replay 

    Not visible even if replay showed him at moment of contact.

    Watch tonight's game and tell me if the naked eye can see a player 200 ft. away on TV leaning in or not.

    This is pure nonsense.

    Tell us please that he are joking or imitating Softlaw. 

    Utterly ridiculous.

    10 mil. watching the game and only Moon saw that. LOL

     

     

     


    TV Guy, get a grip, man.




     




     
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    My father-in-law is fine, I'm actually taking a couple adys off and we have an agency handling him for the weekend, thanks for asking.

    My older son's first high school varsity game, he was playing centerfield, he was a catcher but got called up for an injury to the starter, and a line drive was hit right at him. He broke in and the ball sailed over his head and rolled forever. The hitter was standing at home by the time Charlie caught up with the ball. He was back catching the next game and became a central Mass all-star there by his senior year. Point of the story, you are correct; the ball hit right at you is the most difficult to judge.

     
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    My father-in-law is fine, I'm actually taking a couple adys off and we have an agency handling him for the weekend, thanks for asking.

    My older son's first high school varsity game, he was playing centerfield, he was a catcher but got called up for an injury to the starter, and a line drive was hit right at him. He broke in and the ball sailed over his head and rolled forever. The hitter was standing at home by the time Charlie caught up with the ball. He was back catching the next game and became a central Mass all-star there by his senior year. Point of the story, you are correct; the ball hit right at you is the most difficult to judge.



    Thanks for the spring training updates. Didn't want to forget to mention that. Very entertaining and informative.

     
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    ...You know, the one you formulated by throwing at a dart board years ago....

    It wasn't by chance (dart throw); it was all because Jacoby went to a liberal left coast university, was all hyped up by top brass, took away his beloved Coco's job, and then had the audacity to play great when softy was complaining about him having the job over Coco. The fact that he proved softy wrong early in his career cemented the hatred and vitriol for good.

     




     

    Actually, OSU(Oregon State University), where Ellsbury went, is considered the conservative university out here as compared to UO(University of Oregon).



    Those Ducks are flat out communists aren't they! But they can play football!

     
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    ...You know, the one you formulated by throwing at a dart board years ago....

    It wasn't by chance (dart throw); it was all because Jacoby went to a liberal left coast university, was all hyped up by top brass, took away his beloved Coco's job, and then had the audacity to play great when softy was complaining about him having the job over Coco. The fact that he proved softy wrong early in his career cemented the hatred and vitriol for good.

     




     

    Actually, OSU(Oregon State University), where Ellsbury went, is considered the conservative university out here as compared to UO(University of Oregon).

     



    Those Ducks are flat out communists aren't they! But they can play football!

     




    Be nice...don't get me going...LOL.  Actually, the baskeball team didn't do too bad either.

     
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    It's like watching the hundred yard dash from the top row of the stadium without a view of the starting line and telling your friend that runner X got a poor jump because he wasn't leaning forward enough.




    You said your peace. no need to keep going on about it. Agree to disagree and move on.

     
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    My father-in-law is fine, I'm actually taking a couple adys off and we have an agency handling him for the weekend, thanks for asking.

    My older son's first high school varsity game, he was playing centerfield, he was a catcher but got called up for an injury to the starter, and a line drive was hit right at him. He broke in and the ball sailed over his head and rolled forever. The hitter was standing at home by the time Charlie caught up with the ball. He was back catching the next game and became a central Mass all-star there by his senior year. Point of the story, you are correct; the ball hit right at you is the most difficult to judge.




    Hey jid,

     I enjoyed your ST analysis the last month or so. Nothing like someone who is live and in person being able to see and hear things we cant on the other side of the tv screen.

    Good 1st series for our boys in NY. I think Dempster was being squeezed a little last night, but all in all pitched a decent game. On to the over rated (IMO) Toronto Blue Jays. Farrell should be wearing a hard hat tonight me thinks.

     
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    ...You know, the one you formulated by throwing at a dart board years ago....

    It wasn't by chance (dart throw); it was all because Jacoby went to a liberal left coast university, was all hyped up by top brass, took away his beloved Coco's job, and then had the audacity to play great when softy was complaining about him having the job over Coco. The fact that he proved softy wrong early in his career cemented the hatred and vitriol for good.

     




     

    Actually, OSU(Oregon State University), where Ellsbury went, is considered the conservative university out here as compared to UO(University of Oregon).

     



    Those Ducks are flat out communists aren't they! But they can play football!

     

     




     

    Be nice...don't get me going...LOL.  Actually, the baskeball team didn't do too bad either.



    I was just kidding Amp. No ill will intended. I love Oregon. Trees and fresh air everywhere. Cities hard to find. I like that!

     

     
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    ...You know, the one you formulated by throwing at a dart board years ago....

    It wasn't by chance (dart throw); it was all because Jacoby went to a liberal left coast university, was all hyped up by top brass, took away his beloved Coco's job, and then had the audacity to play great when softy was complaining about him having the job over Coco. The fact that he proved softy wrong early in his career cemented the hatred and vitriol for good.

     




     

    Actually, OSU(Oregon State University), where Ellsbury went, is considered the conservative university out here as compared to UO(University of Oregon).

     



    Those Ducks are flat out communists aren't they! But they can play football!

     

     




     

    Be nice...don't get me going...LOL.  Actually, the baskeball team didn't do too bad either.

     



    I was just kidding Amp. No ill will intended. I love Oregon. Trees and fresh air everywhere. Cities hard to find. I like that!

     

     



     

    Honestly, southern Oregon is the best kept secret in the country.  I don't remember the last time we locked our doors...half the amount of rain Portland gets...rarely gets to freezing in the winter...almost zero humidity, no mosquito's, clean rivers, wildlife, gardens etc., etc. I could go on and on.  If we want big-time shopping or eateries, we'll drive an hour up the road to Eugene.

     
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    ...You know, the one you formulated by throwing at a dart board years ago....

    It wasn't by chance (dart throw); it was all because Jacoby went to a liberal left coast university, was all hyped up by top brass, took away his beloved Coco's job, and then had the audacity to play great when softy was complaining about him having the job over Coco. The fact that he proved softy wrong early in his career cemented the hatred and vitriol for good.

     




     

    Actually, OSU(Oregon State University), where Ellsbury went, is considered the conservative university out here as compared to UO(University of Oregon).

     



    Those Ducks are flat out communists aren't they! But they can play football!

     

     




     

    Be nice...don't get me going...LOL.  Actually, the baskeball team didn't do too bad either.

     



    I was just kidding Amp. No ill will intended. I love Oregon. Trees and fresh air everywhere. Cities hard to find. I like that!

     

     

     



     

     

    Honestly, southern Oregon is the best kept secret in the country.  I don't remember the last time we locked our doors...half the amount of rain Portland gets...rarely gets to freezing in the winter...almost zero humidity, no mosquito's, clean rivers, wildlife, gardens etc., etc. I could go on and on.  If we want big-time shopping or eateries, we'll drive an hour up the road to Eugene.

     



    You should invite Softlaw out there to visit the Indian reservation that Jake lived on. Isn't Softlaw Corporation located in Eugene? What do the locales think of those from the Reservation? Does it have an effect on your tax base? 

     




    I love everyone...taxes are too high everywhere.  There's a 7-Feather Indian run casino nearby.  So, as far as I know, everyone is happy.

     
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    ...You know, the one you formulated by throwing at a dart board years ago....

    It wasn't by chance (dart throw); it was all because Jacoby went to a liberal left coast university, was all hyped up by top brass, took away his beloved Coco's job, and then had the audacity to play great when softy was complaining about him having the job over Coco. The fact that he proved softy wrong early in his career cemented the hatred and vitriol for good.

     




     

    Actually, OSU(Oregon State University), where Ellsbury went, is considered the conservative university out here as compared to UO(University of Oregon).



    To softy, all universities are liberal propaganda institutions and anything on the "left coast" is probably worse.

     
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    I've been gone for a couple days, traveling back home, and it seems as if I never left. In fact, it looks like someone turned the clock back five years because here is Softy ranting against Ellsbury just like the good old days. Someone else mentioned this earlier, but I would love to see Ells resign here, for many years, have a great career, AND continue to read Softy explain how much slower he's gotten and how badly he breaks on balls, and my all-time favorite, how his reverse-pivot makes him a fourth outfielder profile at best.

    And if having Softy back to bash Ells isn't enough, we get the new guy, TV guy in fact, to argue, discredit and simply annoy the regulars here. Who are you and what is your point?

    Amp great to see you back! I've played and coached this game for many years and there are instincts, for lack of a better term, that can not be taught. They can be improved upon with time and repetition, but many people don't have the innate ability to run in one direction while looking over their shoulder in another for a 2 1/2 inch sphere that is 300 feet away from them. I spent most of my playing life as a catcher, but I remember when my dad first converted me from shortstop to catcher (our catcher had broken his arm on our little-league team 55 years or so ago) he said he hated to do it because I was the only player he had who knew where the ball was going to be hit and was already moving in that direction before the batter made contact. Later in life as I played more beer-belly softball games I played the outfield and I could do the same thing. No idea how or why, just instinct. Of course I needed the instincts to make up for my lack of athleticiscm relative to these MLB level players.

    Now great athletes like Ellsbury may not, in fact I know he does not, have that instinct, but with practice and repetition and experience AND with great speed, they can overcome that split second  of indecision that JD Drew, Edmunds, Paul Blair and many other great outfielders, including young Jackie Bradley, seem to possess. 

    We're off to our best start in years, in spite of Andy Pettite, why can't we all just enjoy it? 



    Welcome back. Great post.

     
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    Do you guys like this year's idea of AL and NL teams playing each other randomly?

    The Angels opened the season at Cincinati and the Royals are now playing the Phillies.  

    On Sept 24th and 25th, the Red Sox go to Colorado to play the Rockies.  Those two games might get snowed out.   LOL

     

     
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    Do you guys like this year's idea of AL and NL teams playing each other randomly?

    The Angels opened the season at Cincinati and the Royals are now playing the Phillies.  

    On Sept 24th and 25th, the Red Sox go to Colorado to play the Rockies.  Those two games might get snowed out.   LOL

     




    I love it!

     

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