A Realistic View at 2013: Part II

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    Nava gets the start in left. Well deserved.

     
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    Well this thread has been completely derailed. I'd say that pike and denny's work here was done.




    Actually , I didn't derail anything. I was contributing my opinion as to the shortstop situation. I don't really like having some guy tell me to " shut up and go back to drooling ." That same poster has a habit of making insulting remarks to those he disagrees with.  If you had been keeping score at home , you would have noticed that by now.

     
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    Honestly, I'm not getting half the stuff posted on this thread lately. It's like 1/3 nonsense now. New people are welcome but either have insight, be funny or go somewhere else.

    So far I like Farrell's moves. I liked Francona but Farrell is making more objective decisions IMO. 

     
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    Nava gets the start in left. Well deserved.



    JBJ getting the day off??

     
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    If Lackey goes on the 15 day DL, I say give a farmhand a shot rather than Aceves. We should call up someone and use them as cannon fodder if necessary, as Toronto did with 2 pitchers recently. I'd rather bring up Webster but it may well be premature. He gives us the best shot at winning though, and I suspect he will be up before year end anyway.

    We've gone for it so far. Why stop now.

     
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    It will be interesting to see how Middlebrooks develops from here. He has historically been considered as not being top flight because he doesn't walk much but the guy doesn't miss many pitches either from what I've seen. And the ones he hits often go a long way. Having an average fielding 3rd baseman who can hit 30 plus HR and have a .280 average is a solid pick up on any team.

    And he may have better than that in him. Sometimes he shows major pop and he has the tools to be a better defender. He is a big factor in how this team does going forward. Maybe even a bigger factor than Ellsbury. Both guys need to put up big numbers for this team to make the playoffs and it looks like they are capable of doing that.

     
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    Well this thread has been completely derailed. I'd say that pike and denny's work here was done.

     




    Actually , I didn't derail anything. I was contributing my opinion as to the shortstop situation. I don't really like having some guy tell me to " shut up and go back to drooling ." That same poster has a habit of making insulting remarks to those he disagrees with.  If you had been keeping score at home , you would have noticed that by now.

     

     



    "shut up" is insulting?? i would say you need some thicker skin DG. If "shut up" offends you then you were obviously home schooled and have never spent any time in a public forum. As for the drooling part feel free to stop me if i am lying.. Your going nuts over a 10 AB sample size and an 18 AB sample size. Sorry if i require a bigger pool of information before cementing my position. I didn't even mention the throwing out of statistics that do not agree with your argument. Doing your best impersonation of Softlaw i see? getting hopped up over super small sample sizes and ignoring numbers as you see fit. Now you just need to make long winded posts, come up with cute nicknames for the players and put your clown shoes on.

     



    I'm not going to continue this. I'll just leave you with this : You come across to me as a brash , immature youngster. You are frequently insulting and disrespectful of other posters. At the same time , you try to ingratiate yourself to some of the respected posters. That is how I see it. You can have the last word, because like I said , I am not going to continue this. 

     
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    If Lackey goes on the 15 day DL, I say give a farmhand a shot rather than Aceves. We should call up someone and use them as cannon fodder if necessary, as Toronto did with 2 pitchers recently. I'd rather bring up Webster but it may well be premature. He gives us the best shot at winning though, and I suspect he will be up before year end anyway.

    We've gone for it so far. Why stop now.



    If not Webster who did you have in mind?

     
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    Well this thread has been completely derailed. I'd say that pike and denny's work here was done.

     




    Actually , I didn't derail anything. I was contributing my opinion as to the shortstop situation. I don't really like having some guy tell me to " shut up and go back to drooling ." That same poster has a habit of making insulting remarks to those he disagrees with.  If you had been keeping score at home , you would have noticed that by now.

     

     



    "shut up" is insulting?? i would say you need some thicker skin DG. If "shut up" offends you then you were obviously home schooled and have never spent any time in a public forum. As for the drooling part feel free to stop me if i am lying.. Your going nuts over a 10 AB sample size and an 18 AB sample size. Sorry if i require a bigger pool of information before cementing my position. I didn't even mention the throwing out of statistics that do not agree with your argument. Doing your best impersonation of Softlaw i see? getting hopped up over super small sample sizes and ignoring numbers as you see fit. Now you just need to make long winded posts, come up with cute nicknames for the players and put your clown shoes on.

     

     



    I'm not going to continue this. I'll just leave you with this : You come across to me as a brash , immature youngster. You are frequently insulting and disrespectful of other posters. At the same time , you try to ingratiate yourself to some of the respected posters. That is how I see it. You can have the last word, because like I said , I am not going to continue this. 

     



    it's been a pleasure DG

     
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    It will be interesting to see how Middlebrooks develops from here. He has historically been considered as not being top flight because he doesn't walk much but the guy doesn't miss many pitches either from what I've seen. And the ones he hits often go a long way. Having an average fielding 3rd baseman who can hit 30 plus HR and have a .280 average is a solid pick up on any team.

    And he may have better than that in him. Sometimes he shows major pop and he has the tools to be a better defender. He is a big factor in how this team does going forward. Maybe even a bigger factor than Ellsbury. Both guys need to put up big numbers for this team to make the playoffs and it looks like they are capable of doing that.




    Ill deal with a few extra K's in return for a .280-.300 BA and 30+ bombs.

     
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    If Lackey goes on the 15 day DL, I say give a farmhand a shot rather than Aceves. We should call up someone and use them as cannon fodder if necessary, as Toronto did with 2 pitchers recently. I'd rather bring up Webster but it may well be premature. He gives us the best shot at winning though, and I suspect he will be up before year end anyway.

    We've gone for it so far. Why stop now.




    Bringing up Webster would require another waiver move as he's not on the 40 man. I guess they could move Morales or Breslow to the 60 day DL.

     
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    It will be interesting to see how Middlebrooks develops from here. He has historically been considered as not being top flight because he doesn't walk much but the guy doesn't miss many pitches either from what I've seen. And the ones he hits often go a long way. Having an average fielding 3rd baseman who can hit 30 plus HR and have a .280 average is a solid pick up on any team.

    And he may have better than that in him. Sometimes he shows major pop and he has the tools to be a better defender. He is a big factor in how this team does going forward. Maybe even a bigger factor than Ellsbury. Both guys need to put up big numbers for this team to make the playoffs and it looks like they are capable of doing that.

     




    Ill deal with a few extra K's in return for a .280-.300 BA and 30+ bombs.

     




    IMO you need some guys that are going to swing early in the count. If everyone goes up taking the first pitch the pitcher can just groove one and get ahead early. That was always my biggest complaint about Youk.

     
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    I knew Middlebrooks had power, but what he showed in Toronto was exceptional.  I'm impressed.

    I also think it's a good idea to start Nava instead of JBJ.  Besides hitting the ball well so far, Nava has a lot more experience in Fenway left.  JBJ has enough pressure on him without having to worry about the wall.

     
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    drew +1? what play does Drew make that iggy doesn't?

    My mistake. They both make that play, so it's not a +1 for Drew.

    It is Iggy +2 over 5 games (a pace of 60 over 150).

    There have been some close plays, like the nice tag that maybe Drew doesn't make, but I'm trying to be conservative. (It might really be +3)

     




     

     

    Why is it +2? He did not make that play in the hole. He two hopped it to the side of the first baseman. There was no out and no error. It wasn't a good throw. Counting that as a +1 is certainly not conservative. If you don't count accurately, not sure what the purpose is.




    Its all based solely on their opinion BMav. Drew might get at a ball that Iggy does simply because hes positioned a little more that way or gets a better break on the ball...But unless he has a chance to field that exact same play, there is no way of realistically saying he would have or wouldnt have made any certain play. To determine how many plays Iggy makes over Drew is a waste of time IMO.

    I will say that its very obvious that Iggy is the better defensive player. Thats not even up for debate.

     
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    drew +1? what play does Drew make that iggy doesn't?

    My mistake. They both make that play, so it's not a +1 for Drew.

    It is Iggy +2 over 5 games (a pace of 60 over 150).

    There have been some close plays, like the nice tag that maybe Drew doesn't make, but I'm trying to be conservative. (It might really be +3)

     




     

     

    Why is it +2? He did not make that play in the hole. He two hopped it to the side of the first baseman. There was no out and no error. It wasn't a good throw. Counting that as a +1 is certainly not conservative. If you don't count accurately, not sure what the purpose is.

     




    Its all based solely on their opinion BMav. Drew might get at a ball that Iggy does simply because hes positioned a little more that way or gets a better break on the ball...But unless he has a chance to field that exact same play, there is no way of realistically saying he would have or wouldnt have made any certain play. To determine how many plays Iggy makes over Drew is a waste of time IMO.

     

    I will say that its very obvious that Iggy is the better defensive player. Thats not even up for debate.



    the difference in defense is no debate but neither is the difference in offense.. it's not an exact science but it is more accurate than guessing Iggy will make X amount of plays over Drew IMO.

     
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    the difference in defense is no debate but neither is the difference in offense.. it's not an exact science but it is more accurate than guessing Iggy will make X amount of plays over Drew IMO.

    It's a guess either way.

    You look at the top ranged SSs in MLB and see they make 80-120 more plays than the worst ones over a full season. Yes, I guessed Iggy would make 60-100 more than Drew, but it is based on some facts.

    On the Drew positioning himself better than Iggy (by some other poster), says who? Where's the evidence?

     
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    Nava gets the start in left. Well deserved.



    I almost penciled him into my projected line-up, but went with Bradley instead. No argument. I think Nava is hot, as he often is early in t6he season, so I'm OK with him out there in the short LF.

     
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    He has been a good sport his entire life. It's such a great story and good for him!

     
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    Middlebrooks is reminding me more and more of David Wright by the day, cross your fingers but we may have hit jackpot here.

     
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    Middlebrooks just seems to be getting better every year. His dad was a football coach and I wonder if he played a lot of baseball growing up. When he first started in the minors he didn't even look like he was going to make it and now in the last 3 years he has just been getting better every year. He may not be through yet. He might be one ofm the best 3rd basemen in baseball right now.

     
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     I didn't count that play as  plus one for Iggy.

     




     

    So what was the two plays then? I know the one right before he left the game. But whats the other play?

     
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    Well this thread has been completely derailed. I'd say that pike and denny's work here was done.

     




    Actually , I didn't derail anything. I was contributing my opinion as to the shortstop situation. I don't really like having some guy tell me to " shut up and go back to drooling ." That same poster has a habit of making insulting remarks to those he disagrees with.  If you had been keeping score at home , you would have noticed that by now.

     

     



    "shut up" is insulting?? i would say you need some thicker skin DG. If "shut up" offends you then you were obviously home schooled and have never spent any time in a public forum. As for the drooling part feel free to stop me if i am lying.. Your going nuts over a 10 AB sample size and an 18 AB sample size. Sorry if i require a bigger pool of information before cementing my position. I didn't even mention the throwing out of statistics that do not agree with your argument. Doing your best impersonation of Softlaw i see? getting hopped up over super small sample sizes and ignoring numbers as you see fit. Now you just need to make long winded posts, come up with cute nicknames for the players and put your clown shoes on.

     

     



    I'm not going to continue this. I'll just leave you with this : You come across to me as a brash , immature youngster. You are frequently insulting and disrespectful of other posters. At the same time , you try to ingratiate yourself to some of the respected posters. That is how I see it. You can have the last word, because like I said , I am not going to continue this. 

     



    I'm with you dgalehouse. That's my read also.

     
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    Nava gets the start in left. Well deserved.

     



    I almost penciled him into my projected line-up, but went with Bradley instead. No argument. I think Nava is hot, as he often is early in t6he season, so I'm OK with him out there in the short LF.

     



    looks like Farrell made the right call riding the hot bat into the home opener.

     

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