A Realistic View at 2014: Part I

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    As of right now, we still have an edge but the Yankees are probably not done either. We will see in the coming weeks.



    True enough. If they add another top SP'er and convince Jeter to move to 3B to make way for Drew, I wouldn't bet against the Yanks.

    As it stands right now, I like our chances better. I think the Dodgers, Tigers, & Cardinals are better, and a few other teams about equal with the Yanks.

     
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    All-in-all, the Yanks look like a force on paper, but they have many many questions. They have also have lots of upside potential, but so do we.

    Pedey had an off year last year batting in a key line-up slot. Imagine if he has an MVP type season- not unreasonable for a guy in mid prime.

    Napoli has a career trend of having huge seasons every 3 years. 2014 is year 3.

    Gomes was way off from his recent numbers vs LHPs: a return to form would be a huge boost. Gomes was one of MLB best hitters vs lefties over the previous 3-4 seasons.

    Middy could return to his 2012 form.

    Bogey could be the ROY and put up eye-popping numbers.

    AJP could improve our staff and catcher defense significantly. Good health by Ross could make a big difference as well.

    Better health by Shane.

    30+ starts by Buch.

    20 more starts by Peavy (taking away from Dempster/Webster)

    Mujica instead of Hanrahan and Bailey

    Miller all year

    Workman & Britton more experienced

    A bunch of kids knocking on the door loudly.



    Add: Doubront will no doubt show up in ST in better shape, and that should result in a better year.

    And why have we not signed Andrew Bailey to at least a minor league contract? Did I miss something? Has he signed elsewhere? If not, I think he could be had for next to nothing.

     
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    Add: Doubront will no doubt show up in ST in better shape, and that should result in a better year.

    Yes, I neglected to mention the upside of Doubie. I did on another thread, but forgot it here.

     

    And why have we not signed Andrew Bailey to at least a minor league contract? Did I miss something? Has he signed elsewhere? If not, I think he could be had for next to nothing.

    I think we may sign one more RP, but as of now, we are pretty deep:

    The probable 7 opening day pen:

    Closer: Uehara

    8th inning/back-up closer: Mujica

    Set-up: Tazawa & Breslow

    Mid relief: Miller, Badenhop

    Long relief: Dempster

     

    Depth:

    Workman, Britton, de la Rosa, Wilson, Noe Ramirez, Villareal, Hernandez, Layne, Ely, and Watanabe

    Then there are some starters that could see some pen duty:

    Webster, Ranaudo, Wright, Hinojosa, Barnes and maybe Owens mid-season

     
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    Re: A Realistic View at 2014: Part I

    In response to moonslav59's comment:

    In response to RedsoxProspects' comment:

     

    As of right now, we still have an edge but the Yankees are probably not done either. We will see in the coming weeks.

     



    True enough. If they add another top SP'er and convince Jeter to move to 3B to make way for Drew, I wouldn't bet against the Yanks.

     

    As it stands right now, I like our chances better. I think the Dodgers, Tigers, & Cardinals are better, and a few other teams about equal with the Yanks.




    Look Yanks are much improved. But there are still many questions. Without the moves they made they probably were a sub 500 team w/ loss of Mo / Pettite / Arod following 13 season. But w/ each addition there are also questions attached.

    1. Tanaka- Is he a 1-2 starter here in MLB. Something the Yanks desperately need w/ the decline of CC.

    2. Ellsbury- Can he stay on the field consistently. Some guys just have a habit of always being injured.

    3. McCann- already a ton of innings caught on those legs, already a shoulder surgery. Yanks don't need another DH.

    4. Roberts/Johnson- counting on these guys to fill out your infield?

    5. Jeter- Can he really come back at age 40 and play SS at a high level?

    6. Tex- a player in decline before wrist injury, can they really expect a return to top form?

    7. SP- CC best yrs in rear view, Pineda shoulder surgery, Nova good 1 yr bad the next, Kuroda slumped badly 2nd half last yr at age 38? Phelps is probably the one guy they know what they will get a solid no.5 guy everyone else comes w/ ?'s

    8. Bullpen- if Yankee fan this is where I would be most worried. 18 yrs of never worrying about about a lead late. Having to move your setup guy to closer. Have to believe they will not make a move here can't possibly spend all that $ and have this as your bullpen

    But love what Gomes had to say. You win in the summer not in the winter. Lets see if moves pay off otherwise if Yanks miss playoffs might become the laughingstock of baseball. IMO Yanks are much improved but don't think they are guaranteed a playoff spot by any means.

     

     
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    Re: A Realistic View at 2014: Part I

    One wild card for the Yankees is the anticipated return of 25-year-old one-time All Star righthander Michael Pineda.

     
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    Re: A Realistic View at 2014: Part I

    In response to garyhow's comment:

    In response to moonslav59's comment:

    In response to RedsoxProspects' comment:

     

    As of right now, we still have an edge but the Yankees are probably not done either. We will see in the coming weeks.

     



    True enough. If they add another top SP'er and convince Jeter to move to 3B to make way for Drew, I wouldn't bet against the Yanks.

     

    As it stands right now, I like our chances better. I think the Dodgers, Tigers, & Cardinals are better, and a few other teams about equal with the Yanks.




    Look Yanks are much improved. But there are still many questions. Without the moves they made they probably were a sub 500 team w/ loss of Mo / Pettite / Arod following 13 season. But w/ each addition there are also questions attached.

    1. Tanaka- Is he a 1-2 starter here in MLB. Something the Yanks desperately need w/ the decline of CC.

    2. Ellsbury- Can he stay on the field consistently. Some guys just have a habit of always being injured.

    3. McCann- already a ton of innings caught on those legs, already a shoulder surgery. Yanks don't need another DH.

    4. Roberts/Johnson- counting on these guys to fill out your infield?

    5. Jeter- Can he really come back at age 40 and play SS at a high level?

    6. Tex- a player in decline before wrist injury, can they really expect a return to top form?

    7. SP- CC best yrs in rear view, Pineda shoulder surgery, Nova good 1 yr bad the next, Kuroda slumped badly 2nd half last yr at age 38? Phelps is probably the one guy they know what they will get a solid no.5 guy everyone else comes w/ ?'s

    8. Bullpen- if Yankee fan this is where I would be most worried. 18 yrs of never worrying about about a lead late. Having to move your setup guy to closer. Have to believe they will not make a move here can't possibly spend all that $ and have this as your bullpen

    But love what Gomes had to say. You win in the summer not in the winter. Lets see if moves pay off otherwise if Yanks miss playoffs might become the laughingstock of baseball. IMO Yanks are much improved but don't think they are guaranteed a playoff spot by any means.

     



    Good points. Some echoed some of mine.

    The Ellsbury upgrade from Granderson in CF might not cancel out the downgrade from Cano to Roberts/Ryan at 2B.

     
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    Re: A Realistic View at 2014: Part I

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    Add: Doubront will no doubt show up in ST in better shape, and that should result in a better year.

    Yes, I neglected to mention the upside of Doubie. I did on another thread, but forgot it here.

     

    And why have we not signed Andrew Bailey to at least a minor league contract? Did I miss something? Has he signed elsewhere? If not, I think he could be had for next to nothing.

    I think we may sign one more RP, but as of now, we are pretty deep:

    The probable 7 opening day pen:

    Closer: Uehara

    8th inning/back-up closer: Mujica

    Set-up: Tazawa & Breslow

    Mid relief: Miller, Badenhop

    Long relief: Dempster

     

    Depth:

    Workman, Britton, de la Rosa, Wilson, Noe Ramirez, Villareal, Hernandez, Layne, Ely, and Watanabe

    Then there are some starters that could see some pen duty:

    Webster, Ranaudo, Wright, Hinojosa, Barnes and maybe Owens mid-season



    I believe Villareal was DFA'd. Not sure if he has signed elsewhere. I still think Bailey is worth rolling the dice on because he could be had for next to nothing. And RP are such a crapshoot its worth having a lot of them to choose from.

     
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    Re: A Realistic View at 2014: Part I

    Interesting article on de la Rosa...

    "Last year I never got that feeling like I could throw the ball 100-percent. But now I can do it. I feel comfortable. "

    The full read:

    http://news.soxprospects.com/2014/01/finally-healthy-de-la-rosa-eyeing-big.html

     
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    Re: A Realistic View at 2014: Part I

    Who is playing third base for Yanks?

    32 year old Kelly Johnson who hit 16 Hrs in just 366 ABs last year with the Rays. Career .762 OPS

    Back-up: probably B Ryan

     
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    I think it's imperative we sign Drew, and part of the reason is keeping him from the Yankees.  The other part is Middlebrooks, I hope he proves me wrong but I think he's the liability he was last season.  Naps/Pedroia/Drew/Bogaerts needs to be our infield. 

    Pineda is another wild-card, if he comes on strong and Tanaka is as feared and CC regains form, look out!

     

     
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    Re: A Realistic View at 2014: Part I

    In response to moonslav59's comment:

    In response to garyhow's comment:

    In response to moonslav59's comment:

    In response to RedsoxProspects' comment:

     

    As of right now, we still have an edge but the Yankees are probably not done either. We will see in the coming weeks.

     



    True enough. If they add another top SP'er and convince Jeter to move to 3B to make way for Drew, I wouldn't bet against the Yanks.

     

    As it stands right now, I like our chances better. I think the Dodgers, Tigers, & Cardinals are better, and a few other teams about equal with the Yanks.




    Look Yanks are much improved. But there are still many questions. Without the moves they made they probably were a sub 500 team w/ loss of Mo / Pettite / Arod following 13 season. But w/ each addition there are also questions attached.

    1. Tanaka- Is he a 1-2 starter here in MLB. Something the Yanks desperately need w/ the decline of CC.

    2. Ellsbury- Can he stay on the field consistently. Some guys just have a habit of always being injured.

    3. McCann- already a ton of innings caught on those legs, already a shoulder surgery. Yanks don't need another DH.

    4. Roberts/Johnson- counting on these guys to fill out your infield?

    5. Jeter- Can he really come back at age 40 and play SS at a high level?

    6. Tex- a player in decline before wrist injury, can they really expect a return to top form?

    7. SP- CC best yrs in rear view, Pineda shoulder surgery, Nova good 1 yr bad the next, Kuroda slumped badly 2nd half last yr at age 38? Phelps is probably the one guy they know what they will get a solid no.5 guy everyone else comes w/ ?'s

    8. Bullpen- if Yankee fan this is where I would be most worried. 18 yrs of never worrying about about a lead late. Having to move your setup guy to closer. Have to believe they will not make a move here can't possibly spend all that $ and have this as your bullpen

    But love what Gomes had to say. You win in the summer not in the winter. Lets see if moves pay off otherwise if Yanks miss playoffs might become the laughingstock of baseball. IMO Yanks are much improved but don't think they are guaranteed a playoff spot by any means.

     



    Good points. Some echoed some of mine.

    The Ellsbury upgrade from Granderson in CF might not cancel out the downgrade from Cano to Roberts/Ryan at 2B.




    Just a gut feeling. But think Tanaka is going to be really good. Lets hope bullpen implodes w/out Mo, and CC doesn't have bounce back season.

     

     
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    Re: A Realistic View at 2014: Part I

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    I think it's imperative we sign Drew, and part of the reason is keeping him from the Yankees.  The other part is Middlebrooks, I hope he proves me wrong but I think he's the liability he was last season.  Naps/Pedroia/Drew/Bogaerts needs to be our infield. 

    Pineda is another wild-card, if he comes on strong and Tanaka is as feared and CC regains form, look out!

     



    I'm okay with trading Dempster to clear salary space for Drew, but I think we can spend the money more wisely.

     
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    Re: A Realistic View at 2014: Part I

    In response to moonslav59's comment:

    Interesting article on de la Rosa...

    "Last year I never got that feeling like I could throw the ball 100-percent. But now I can do it. I feel comfortable. "

    The full read:

    http://news.soxprospects.com/2014/01/finally-healthy-de-la-rosa-eyeing-big.html




    I had read it. Hopefully working w/ Pedro will also help. But also good to hear in noticeably better shape. Getting close to that make or break yr for him, otherwise other young arms will move by.

     

     
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    Re: A Realistic View at 2014: Part I

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    Still, a lot of "ifs" for the Yanks, and they should not be minimized:

    1B: Teixeira started his decline the minute he signed with the Yanks ... Agree. The wrist injury last year will be a big question for him. He is a notorious slow starter. There's real good chance he never gets it going.

    2B: Roberts & Ryan are way bigger question marks than Pedey. HUGE,loss of production at 2nd base. Cano has been the anchor in the lineup the last few years.

    3B: Huge question mark for the Yanks.  

    DH: Soriano or Beltran should give the Yanks the second best DH numbers in MLB. 

    Plus Jeter will get significant DH time, especially against lefties. 

    Sabathia looks like a new man. The loss of that much weight raises red flags...a radical change in a workout routine can lead to injury, if not done gradually and correctly. He's made his living as a power pitcher, a lot of it coming from a balanced delivery that used that heft.  There have got to be some major changes to be made in mechanics and balance and delivery that can lead to disaster, big time, for a pitcher.    

    Robertson as a closer. Should do well. The rest of the pen is much more questionable than ours. Agree. Loss of Riviera and that automatic dependibiity will be huge. 

     

     
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    Re: A Realistic View at 2014: Part I

    No Mo, No Cano, No Grandy, No Pettitte.

    Yes, they picked up some big talent: Ellsbury, Beltran, Tanaka & McCann, but there are still big question marks.

     
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    No Mo, No Cano, No Grandy, No Pettitte.

    Yes, they picked up some big talent: Ellsbury, Beltran, Tanaka & McCann, but there are still big question marks.



    Hello moonslav59  Laughing

    This is why I still think that the Red Sox and Rays are better than the Yankees.  

     

     
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    No Mo, No Cano, No Grandy, No Pettitte.

    Yes, they picked up some big talent: Ellsbury, Beltran, Tanaka & McCann, but there are still big question marks.



    Even the four new pick-ups come with their share of question marks. Ellsbury should be the surest bet but he does have injury history. Beltran is aging and not the defender he was once, more than likely one of many dh candidates on Yankee team. McCann is coming off some injury-plagued seasons and stepping into a much tougher division. And Tanaka could be the biggest question mark of all, trying to live up to that salary without ever having thrown a pitch at a level much above the American equivalent of single A. All four could be great and need to be great for the Yankees to return to the playoffs. Not likely that all four work out as planned.

     
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    Re: A Realistic View at 2014: Part I

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    No Mo, No Cano, No Grandy, No Pettitte.

    Yes, they picked up some big talent: Ellsbury, Beltran, Tanaka & McCann, but there are still big question marks.



    Even the four new pick-ups come with their share of question marks. Ellsbury should be the surest bet but he does have injury history. Beltran is aging and not the defender he was once, more than likely one of many dh candidates on Yankee team. McCann is coming off some injury-plagued seasons and stepping into a much tougher division. And Tanaka could be the biggest question mark of all, trying to live up to that salary without ever having thrown a pitch at a level much above the American equivalent of single A. All four could be great and need to be great for the Yankees to return to the playoffs. Not likely that all four work out as planned.



    I agree, but we should remember that last winter we had a slew of questions, including our own 4 big FA signings: Victorino, Napoli, Dempster and Drew.

    A lot went right for us last year, especially on the health front, while much went wrong with the Yanks in that area.

    That being said, I do like the Rays and Sox slightly better right now, but the Yanks will be neck and neck with both teams.

    I can't wait for the season to begin!

     
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    Re: A Realistic View at 2014: Part I

    Here is a llst of the best Sox players by age staring at 25:

    40 Man Roster Only

    25: Doubront, Lavarnway, Hassan, Holt

    24: Middlebrooks, Workman, Britton, de la Rosa, Brentz

    23: Bradley, Webster, Ranaudo

    22: Cecchini, Vazquez

    20: Bogaerts

    Non-40 Man Roster (ordered by soxprospects.com rankings)

    24: Ranaudo (7), N Ramirez (30)

    23: Barnes (6), Vazquez (13), Marrero (17), Johnson (18)

    22: Coyle (25), de la Cruz (36)

    21: Owens (3), Swihart (5), Betts (10), Mercedes (23), L Diaz (26), Smith (33)

           Litrell (34), Ramos (35)

    20: Stankiewicz (15), Buttrey (24), Kukuk (31), Gomez (37)

    19: Ball (11), Margot (14), Callahan (22), Denney (32), McGrath (38), Lin (39)

    18: Rijo (19), Longhi (40)

    17: Devers (21)

     
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    Re: A Realistic View at 2014: Part I

    In response to moonslav59's comment:

    In response to jidgef's comment:

    In response to moonslav59's comment:

    No Mo, No Cano, No Grandy, No Pettitte.

    Yes, they picked up some big talent: Ellsbury, Beltran, Tanaka & McCann, but there are still big question marks.



    Even the four new pick-ups come with their share of question marks. Ellsbury should be the surest bet but he does have injury history. Beltran is aging and not the defender he was once, more than likely one of many dh candidates on Yankee team. McCann is coming off some injury-plagued seasons and stepping into a much tougher division. And Tanaka could be the biggest question mark of all, trying to live up to that salary without ever having thrown a pitch at a level much above the American equivalent of single A. All four could be great and need to be great for the Yankees to return to the playoffs. Not likely that all four work out as planned.



    I agree, but we should remember that last winter we had a slew of questions, including our own 4 big FA signings: Victorino, Napoli, Dempster and Drew.

    A lot went right for us last year, especially on the health front, while much went wrong with the Yanks in that area.

    That being said, I do like the Rays and Sox slightly better right now, but the Yanks will be neck and neck with both teams.

    I can't wait for the season to begin!




    While I agree to win a WS things must break right and last yr everything did break right for RS including the injury bug which seemed to haunt RS past few yrs. Even injuries we did have seemed to work out for the better [Hanrahan & Bailey otherwise Koji remains in setup role] But when looking at RS pickups not so sure there was much surprise other than they stayed mostly healthy.

    Naps- gave us pretty much what we expected. Maybe better D than expected.

    Dempster- pitched a ton of innings. Something he has done his whole career.

    Vic- proved that 2012 was just a bad yr and was still young enough to bounce back, while providing GG defense which he has always done.

    Koji- probably the biggest surprise of the group, while always posting outstanding #'s don't think many could have expected him to do it as closer

    Gomes- came as advertised. Probably didn't do as well as expected vs LH's but more than made up for it w/ his clubhouse presence.

    Just think the Yanks signings come with alot of questions and could backfire. If they signed Cano + 2 at least you know what your going to get from Cano. IMO Tanaka is going to be very good, and Ells/McCann are capable of big #'s in that park. Beltran could have 1 more really solid season in those knees. But would anyone be surprised if Ells missed 50 games, McCann needed to DH more than expected, or Beltran could no longer play the outfield? Then what resign Vernon Wells - B.Cashman better hope not because I do believe his job is on the line this year. One thing ownership has realized is he's no Gene Michael when it comes to evaluating young talent. But he sure knows how to write a check.

     

     
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    While I agree to win a WS things must break right and last yr everything did break right for RS including the injury bug which seemed to haunt RS past few yrs. Even injuries we did have seemed to work out for the better [Hanrahan & Bailey otherwise Koji remains in setup role] But when looking at RS pickups not so sure there was much surprise other than they stayed mostly healthy.

    Naps- gave us pretty much what we expected. Maybe better D than expected.

    Dempster- pitched a ton of innings. Something he has done his whole career.

    Vic- proved that 2012 was just a bad yr and was still young enough to bounce back, while providing GG defense which he has always done.

    Koji- probably the biggest surprise of the group, while always posting outstanding #'s don't think many could have expected him to do it as closer

    Gomes- came as advertised. Probably didn't do as well as expected vs LH's but more than made up for it w/ his clubhouse presence.ssed

    Good points.

    On Gomes, he really missed expectations significantly vs LHPs last year:

    '09-'12 vs LHPs: .906 OPS (8th best OF OPS vs LHPs in MLB)

    2013 vs LHPs:    .795 OPS

     

    We did have one significant injury that we overcame by having strong seasons from Lackey and Lester: Clay Buchholz. We also lost Miller for much of the year, but Breslow was lights out second half last year.

    We had lots of stretches with key players injured, but certainly we did way better with injuries in 2013 than the previous few years.

    Papi missed the start of the year, but was a horse once he returned.

    Victorino missed time here and there, but Nava did well.

    Ellsbury missed time.

    Drew missed time.

    Middy battled an injury.

    Pedey played hurt.

    Ross missed about half the season.

    While injuries to Hanrahan and Bailey may have been a "blessing in disguise", the loss of Miller and Morales could have been more harmful if it wasn't for uehara, Tazawa, Breslow, Workman, and Britton.

     
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    Re: A Realistic View at 2014: Part I

    In response to garyhow's comment:

    In response to moonslav59's comment:

    Interesting article on de la Rosa...

    "Last year I never got that feeling like I could throw the ball 100-percent. But now I can do it. I feel comfortable. "

    The full read:

    http://news.soxprospects.com/2014/01/finally-healthy-de-la-rosa-eyeing-big.html




    I had read it. Hopefully working w/ Pedro will also help. But also good to hear in noticeably better shape. Getting close to that make or break yr for him, otherwise other young arms will move by.

     



    Agree here.  Pedro is re-habbing his Red Sox pedigree, which I think he hurt a bit by leaving, saying he was being disrepected (Echo in Cano's camp this year - as if the NYYs weren't willing to sell 7 very costly years for him ...).  Pedro seems to have a high upside for Rubby.  If we learned one thing last season, a postive approach from your coach and manager can help bring about great responses.  Nieves was super upbeat during ST about Lester, Lackey, Doubie and others - and the reward was terrific.

    I am ready for that moment or two (hopefully not more) when our starters get hurt or tired and Rubby and several other young guns step in (ala 2013).  It is actually exciting to consider their toeing the rubber for the big squad.

     
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    Agree here.  Pedro is re-habbing his Red Sox pedigree, which I think he hurt a bit by leaving, saying he was being disrepected (Echo in Cano's camp this year - as if the NYYs weren't willing to sell 7 very costly years for him ...).  Pedro seems to have a high upside for Rubby.  If we learned one thing last season, a postive approach from your coach and manager can help bring about great responses.  Nieves was super upbeat during ST about Lester, Lackey, Doubie and others - and the reward was terrific.

    I am ready for that moment or two (hopefully not more) when our starters get hurt or tired and Rubby and several other young guns step in (ala 2013).  It is actually exciting to consider their toeing the rubber for the big squad.

    There are quite a few options for that 7th starter role. If Dempster is traded, everyone moves up a notch.

    Workman

    Britton

    Webster

    de la Rosa

    Barnes

    Ranaudo

    Wright

    Hinojosa

    Ely

    Owens (Maybe by midseason)

     
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    While I agree to win a WS things must break right and last yr everything did break right for RS including the injury bug which seemed to haunt RS past few yrs. Even injuries we did have seemed to work out for the better [Hanrahan & Bailey otherwise Koji remains in setup role] But when looking at RS pickups not so sure there was much surprise other than they stayed mostly healthy.

    Naps- gave us pretty much what we expected. Maybe better D than expected.

    Dempster- pitched a ton of innings. Something he has done his whole career.

    Vic- proved that 2012 was just a bad yr and was still young enough to bounce back, while providing GG defense which he has always done.

    Koji- probably the biggest surprise of the group, while always posting outstanding #'s don't think many could have expected him to do it as closer

    Gomes- came as advertised. Probably didn't do as well as expected vs LH's but more than made up for it w/ his clubhouse presence.ssed

    Good points.

    On Gomes, he really missed expectations significantly vs LHPs last year:

    '09-'12 vs LHPs: .906 OPS (8th best OF OPS vs LHPs in MLB)

    2013 vs LHPs:    .795 OPS

     

    We did have one significant injury that we overcame by having strong seasons from Lackey and Lester: Clay Buchholz. We also lost Miller for much of the year, but Breslow was lights out second half last year.

    We had lots of stretches with key players injured, but certainly we did way better with injuries in 2013 than the previous few years.

    Papi missed the start of the year, but was a horse once he returned.

    Victorino missed time here and there, but Nava did well.

    Ellsbury missed time.

    Drew missed time.

    Middy battled an injury.

    Pedey played hurt.

    Ross missed about half the season.

    While injuries to Hanrahan and Bailey may have been a "blessing in disguise", the loss of Miller and Morales could have been more harmful if it wasn't for uehara, Tazawa, Breslow, Workman, and Britton.



    IMO 13 RS injuries are probably the norm for 162 games, not like some yr in past where it seemed we lost 4/5 ths of the rotation, or Pedey / Youk / or Ells were pretty much lost for the yr. Our hardest hit area was the pen, but Ben did a great job of providing lots of depth, and Britton and Workman were big 2nd half. For me its all about the starters if you can keep the rotation healthy and productive they will keep you in the race, position players can go down and team can stay in race. Cards won WS yr after Pujols left, but if Wainright or Carpenter had left would almost gaurantee they would not have been celebrating. Also look at Yank injuries last yr but stayed in race most of yr because rotation was healthy. Its all about the pitching! Thats why I never endorse trading it. I know most have made great points that RS should move someone, but these things seem to always work themselves out. Also can remember last yr at this time when many said we would need to trade bullpen arms because we had a surplus, we barely made it with what we had. Never ever too much PITCHING!

     

     
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