A-Rod and others facing suspension for PED use.

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    A-Rod and others facing suspension for PED use.

    http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/9301536/major-league-baseball-suspend-20-players-including-alex-rodriguez-ryan-braun-part-miami-investigation

    By T.J. Quinn, Pedro Gomez and Mike Fish

    Major League Baseball will seek to suspend about 20 players connected to the Miami-area clinic at the heart of an ongoing performance-enhancing drug scandal, including Alex Rodriguez and Ryan Braun, possibly within the next few weeks, "Outside the Lines" has learned. If the suspensions are upheld, the performance-enhancing drug scandal would be the largest in American sports history.

    Tony Bosch, founder of the now-shuttered Biogenesis of America, reached an agreement this week to cooperate with MLB's investigation, two sources told "Outside the Lines," giving MLB the ammunition officials believe they need to suspend the players.

    [+] EnlargeAnthony Bosch

    ESPN Tony Bosch, right, flat-out denied any knowledge of suspected PED distribution at Biogenesis, his closed South Florida clinic, in an interview with ESPN's Pedro Gomez.

    One source familiar with the case said the commissioner's office might seek 100-game suspensions for Rodriguez, Braun and other players, the penalty for a second doping offense. The argument, the source said, is that the players' connection to Bosch constitutes one offense, and previous statements to MLB officials denying any such connection or the use of PEDs constitute another. Bosch and his attorneys did not return several calls. MLB officials refused to comment when reached Tuesday.

    Bosch is expected to begin meeting with officials -- and naming names -- within a week. The announcement of suspensions could follow within two weeks.

    Investigators have had records naming about 20 players for more than a month. But without a sworn statement from Bosch that the records are accurate and reflect illicit interactions between the players and the self-described biochemist, the documents were little more than a road map.

    Sources did not say what other materials, such as receipts and phone records, Bosch might provide, but said he has pledged to provide anything in his possession that could help MLB build cases against the players. Sources said MLB officials were not sure how many players may end up being pulled into the scandal: the 20 or so they know of have been identified through paperwork, but Bosch is expected to provide more. (Because some players are listed by their names and some by code names, officials are not yet certain whether some are redundant.)

    The development is a major break for MLB, which has pursued the case vigorously since Bosch's name was brought to MLB's attention last summer. In exchange for Bosch's full cooperation, sources said, Major League Baseball will drop the lawsuit it filed against Bosch in March; indemnify him for any liability arising from his cooperation; provide personal security for him and even put in a good word with any law enforcement agency that may bring charges against him. Sources said negotiations over the agreement, which lasted several weeks, stalled over the last point, as Bosch wanted the strongest assurances he could get that MLB would help mitigate any prosecution.

    At the same time, MLB is trying to secure the cooperation of at least two other former Bosch associates who have spoken to MLB investigators, as well as a man named Juan Carlos Nunez, a registered agent who worked for longtime agents Seth and Sam Levinson, who is believed to have been a conduit between Bosch and numerous players.

    MLB has already established precedent to suspend a player for two offenses in one shot: minor league player Cesar Carrillo was hit with a 100-game suspension in March when he was confronted with Biogenesis documents containing his name and then denied having any connection to Bosch or the clinic.

    Because Carrillo was on a minor league contract, however, and thus not a member of the MLB Players' Association, he was not entitled to an appeal through arbitration. Major League players accused by MLB are expected to fight any suspension, and efforts to charge the players with multiple offenses would bring that fight to another level. In the appeals process, players are allowed to confront witnesses and evidence in a courtroom-like procedure before an arbitration panel.

    Corroborating evidence against some players could prove difficult to come by, however. Several sources told ESPN Bosch dealt only in cash, and usually used friends as couriers, sometimes never seeing some of the athletes he served.

    In a recent interview with ESPN, his only one since the scandal broke, Bosch said he knew nothing about performance-enhancing drugs, and that media accounts of his PED distribution amounted to "character assassination."

    "I have been accused, tried and convicted in the media. And so I think [I] have been falsely accused throughout the media," he told ESPN's Pedro Gomez. "I've done nothing wrong."

    But sources said Bosch has been feeling pressure from both the MLB lawsuit, which claims tortious interference, and a potential criminal investigation, and that he sees full cooperation with MLB as one of his only refuges. Several attorneys have said they don't think the lawsuit could survive a legal challenge, but Bosch likely would have to put up a costly fight in order to have the case dismissed. Several sources have told ESPN that Bosch is nearly broke, living alternately with family members and friends, and has tried unsuccessfully so far to revive his "wellness" business.

    The Florida State Department of Health recently said it had sent Bosch a cease-and-desist letter and referred the case to law enforcement. MLB has tried to enlist the DEA, but no sources close to the clinic said they have been interviewed by any law enforcement agents and don't know of anyone who has been.

    MLB officials, though, traveled to Miami last month to take the deposition of anti-aging specialist Dr. Daniel Carpman, a former acquaintance of Bosch's. Biogenesis documents from 2011 included prescription forms purportedly signed by Carpman, who previously told "Outside the Lines'' that he didn't sign the forms.

    Bosch first came to MLB's attention in 2009 after Manny Ramirez, then with the Los Angeles Dodgers, tested positive for testosterone. While Ramirez appealed that finding, MLB officials discovered a prescription in Ramirez' medical file for human chorionic gonadotropin, another banned substance. The HCG prescription, which was sufficient evidence to suspend Ramirez, was written by Dr. Pedro Bosch, Tony's father, but sources said at the time that Tony Bosch had actually been facilitating Ramirez' drug use. MLB tried to get the DEA involved, but the agency took a pass. Ramirez was suspended for 50 games, and was suspended a second time for 100 games in 2011 after he failed another test.

    Tony Bosch resurfaced last summer after several players, all with connections to the Miami area, tested positive for testosterone: Melky Cabrera, Bartolo Colon and YasmaniGrandal. All received 50-game suspensions. When an ESPN reporter asked MLB officials about information that all three might have been connected to Tony Bosch, MLB launched an investigation, sending several members of its Department of Investigations to South Florida, where they have repeatedly visited former Biogenesis employees and Bosch associates, even paying at least one $5,000 for information.

     

    Biogenesis

    Mike Fish/ESPN Two unidentified men last fall leave Biogenesis of America in Coral Gables, Fla., a clinic under investigation by Major League Baseball.

    MLBPA officials have negotiated with their MLB counterparts to offer limited cooperation from the players but have been concerned that the players could expose themselves to further liability.

    Braun's name appears on at least two documents, one which lists him as owing $20,000 to $30,000, another which says he owed $1,500 for what sources said were PEDs. Braun issued a statement saying the larger figure was to pay Bosch for consulting on his successful appeal, and denied ever receiving or using PEDs. During his interview with ESPN, Bosch said he only consulted with Braun, but sources said he is expected to tell MLB he did provide the Milwaukee star with drugs.

    Bosch's claims that he never distributed PEDs are sharply at odds with accounts from numerous sources who say he helped provide banned substances to possibly dozens of athletes. They also contradict paperwork that several sources said was hand-written by Bosch. Shown a list of athletes who allegedly received PEDs through Biogenesis, Bosch told ESPN's Pedro Gomez, "No comment. I have never seen that in my life." The list was one of dozens of documents obtained by "Outside the Lines," and is similar to the documents in MLB's possession.

    Some paperwork, taken from company computers rather than Bosch's hand-written notes, list players by code names. Most, like Rodriguez, Colon, Cabrera and others, have been identified in press reports, but MLB will want Bosch to say who the code names represented.

    Also sure to be on MLB's list of questions is whether the Yankees' Robinson Cano, who could sign a lucrative free agent contract after this season, had any connection to Bosch or the clinic. The spokeswoman for Cano's foundation, Sonia Cruz, was listed in Biogenesis documents, as ESPN reported, and MLB officials have investigated whether she might have been a conduit for Cano.

    The players who might ultimately face discipline from MLB include: Rodriguez, Braun, Cabrera, Colon, Grandal, Nelson Cruz, Francisco Cervelli, Jesus Montero, Jhonny Peralta, CesarPuello, Fernando Martinez, Everth Cabrera, Fautini de los Santos, Jordan Norberto, and a number of players who are either identified by code names or whose names appear in other documents not obtained by "Outside the Lines." All are currently on major-league rosters but for Puello, a top outfield prospect for the New York Mets who is playing in Class AA Binghamton.

    One player listed who will be scrutinized but possibly exonerated is the Nationals' Gio Gonzalez. Gonzalez was listed among Biogenesis clients, but two sources told ESPN that the only substances he received from the clinic were legal.

     
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    Re: A-Rod and others facing suspension for PED use.

    No Red Sox in the mix:

    Player/Team

    Ryan Braun Brewers

    Everth Cabrera Padres

    Melky Cabrera Blue Jays

    Francisco Cervelli Yankees

    Bartolo Colon Athletics

    Nelson Cruz Rangers

    Fautino de los Santos Free agent

    Gio Gonzalez* Nationals

    Yasmani Grandal Padres

    Fernando Martinez Astros

    Jesus Montero Mariners

    Jordan Norberto Free agent

    Jhonny Peralta Tigers

    Cesar Puello** Mets

    Alex Rodriguez Yankees

     
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    Re: A-Rod and others facing suspension for PED use.

    In response to softlaw2's comment:

    If the MLBPA capitulates and allows a serious blood testing program, there will be a lot more members of labor who will be exposed.



    Expect just the opposite; they shall fight this tooth and nail. At the very least A-Rod is embarrassed. Few, at this point, like him, and here's guessing he doesn't even care.

     
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    Re: A-Rod and others facing suspension for PED use.

    I'd love to know what EXACT meds are legal and which are not.

    Does anyone have that information?

    Some have mentioned that Braun was taking a 'steroid' for herpes.  The type of steroid used for this purpose is not the same as the 'anabolic' type.  If he tested positive for cortisone type steroids(the type used for herpes), the same type are used for muscular inflammation and I'll bet that 80% of the players would probably test positive.

     

     
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    Re: A-Rod and others facing suspension for PED use.

    In response to ampoule's comment:

    I'd love to know what EXACT meds are legal and which are not.

    Does anyone have that information?

    Some have mentioned that Braun was taking a 'steroid' for herpes.  The type of steroid used for this purpose is not the same as the 'anabolic' type.  If he tested positive for cortisone type steroids(the type used for herpes), the same type are used for muscular inflammation and I'll bet that 80% of the players would probably test positive.

     



    A smoke screen; is that why his testosterone level was thru the roof?

     
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    Re: A-Rod and others facing suspension for PED use.

    In response to softlaw2's comment:

    I expect the opposite, I've simply noted that the MLBPA is 100% responsible for members using PED's in the big business media era of sports.

    Any sports league business that doesn't have a state of the art PED testing program will end up with it's crediblity damaged by virtue of it's most popular players being exposed as doping up on hormones. See Barry Bonds, Lance Armstrong and Tiger Woods.



    I stand corrected

     
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    Re: A-Rod and others facing suspension for PED use.

    In response to crix's comment:

    No Red Sox in the mix:

    Player/Team

    Ryan Braun Brewers

    Everth Cabrera Padres

    Melky Cabrera Blue Jays

    Francisco Cervelli Yankees

    Bartolo Colon Athletics

    Nelson Cruz Rangers

    Fautino de los Santos Free agent

    Gio Gonzalez* Nationals

    Yasmani Grandal Padres

    Fernando Martinez Astros

    Jesus Montero Mariners

    Jordan Norberto Free agent

    Jhonny Peralta Tigers

    Cesar Puello** Mets

    Alex Rodriguez Yankees



    Please not Big Papi.

    Please not Big Papi.

    Please not big...

     

     

     
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    Re: A-Rod and others facing suspension for PED use.

    In response to nhsteven's comment:

    In response to ampoule's comment:

     

    I'd love to know what EXACT meds are legal and which are not.

    Does anyone have that information?

    Some have mentioned that Braun was taking a 'steroid' for herpes.  The type of steroid used for this purpose is not the same as the 'anabolic' type.  If he tested positive for cortisone type steroids(the type used for herpes), the same type are used for muscular inflammation and I'll bet that 80% of the players would probably test positive.

     

     



    A smoke screen; is that why his testosterone level was thru the roof?

     




    You're probably right.

    I was just stating cortisone information.  Although not of the 'anabolic' type, I have no idea if a person would still test positive for 'steroids' if taking cortisone type meds.

     
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    Re: A-Rod and others facing suspension for PED use.

    In response to crix's comment:

    No Red Sox in the mix:

    Player/Team

    Ryan Braun Brewers

    Everth Cabrera Padres

    Melky Cabrera Blue Jays

    Francisco Cervelli Yankees

    Bartolo Colon Athletics

    Nelson Cruz Rangers

    Fautino de los Santos Free agent

    Gio Gonzalez* Nationals

    Yasmani Grandal Padres

    Fernando Martinez Astros

    Jesus Montero Mariners

    Jordan Norberto Free agent

    Jhonny Peralta Tigers

    Cesar Puello** Mets

    Alex Rodriguez Yankees



    Why don't they make it like an All-Star game and have at least one representative for each team?  They can then play out an all-PED game.  Losing team serves suspensions without pay.  Winning team makes an appearance together on Oprah.  

     
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    I'm sure the Yankees are not too worried about losing A-Rod . Thet are probably holding their breath over Cano. 

    Stabbed by Foulke.

     
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    Re: A-Rod and others facing suspension for PED use.

    In response to softlaw2's comment:

    Amp,

    Cycling and Track and Field have state of the art blood testing that stays ahead of the science of hormone and blood doping for performance enhancement in athletics. The major sports have lagged behind becuase of the resistance from the palyers associations themselves. It is only the ancillary scandals that have exposed these sports businesses to the point where they are slowing receiving enough public outrage and pressure to where they are about a fraction of the way to where cycling and track and field have been for a long, long time.

    As the testing in the NBA, NFL, MLB, tennis, golf et al goes from it's current superficial level to the intesity of cycling and track and field, more and more players will be exposed.

    There is no question that this "bigger faster" generation of sports record breakers are mostly frauds who have been doped up from the deliberate external introduction of designer PED hormones. See Barry Bonds, Lance Armstrong, Tiger Woods. 




    While cycling had the guts to strip away titles, even in their most celebrated events, would MLB remove Bonds from the record books? Would Golf erase Tiger's wins, and his phoney chase of Jack Nicklaus' record? MLB, perhaps, Golf, no. The PGA is too dependent upon the Tiger aura, the entire framework of television revenue, sponsorships and ratings is a Ponzi scheme with Woods at it's center. Tiger Woods is a corrupt individual, celebrated for stealing money from worthy opponents, by cheating in everyway possible. His attendance at the Master's is shameful, because a Georgia citizen who looks like him, would have a hard time being considered for membership there. Country Clubs are perhaps the last bastions of exclusion in all of America.

     
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    Re: A-Rod and others facing suspension for PED use.

    How many of those guys played for Yankees?

     
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    Re: A-Rod and others facing suspension for PED use.

    In response to Iceman4's comment:

    How many of those guys played for Yankees?



    Cabrera

    Colon

    A-Rod

    Cervelli

    Montero

     
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7cgxqVR9Vo

     
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    Good. Arod has cheated his entire career and Braun weezled out of the suspension he should have had. Unfortunately, three of the players are on my fantasy baseball team. I would lose two shortstops so maybe I'll add Drew.

     
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    Re: A-Rod and others facing suspension for PED use.

    In response to softlaw2's comment:

    I expect the opposite, I've simply noted that the MLBPA is 100% responsible for members using PED's in the big business media era of sports.

    Any sports league business that doesn't have a state of the art PED testing program will end up with it's crediblity damaged by virtue of it's most popular players being exposed as doping up on hormones. See Barry Bonds, Lance Armstrong and Tiger Woods.



    Tiger Woods?  He was long off the tee from the beginning, when he was skinny and didn't have a workout regimen.  And, unlike baseball, golf demands accuracy, which PEDs, if anything, inhibit.  His resurgence this year is in part the result of lots of practice and a putting lesson from I think Steve Stricker.  The guys who win the long drive contests rarely compete successfully on the PGA tour.  Interestingly, early in his career bantam Ben Hogan hit drives with a draw and regularly competed in long drive contests, so size or bulking up are not essential to hitting a golf ball hard.  And hitting a golf ball hard doesn't equate to golf success without accuracy and, more importantly, great touch, especially from 150 yards in.  Nicklaus also was long off the tee, but he was great with his irons, really thought his way thru a round, always prepared well for the majors, and was a superb putter.  Woods is long off the tees, but somewhat erratic, which is why he sometimes hits that two iron or a fairway wood, but he is great with his irons and terrific around the greens with a wide variety of flop shots, etc. 

    Bicycling has had a pretty good testing program, but apparently it was just hard to nail guys like Lance Armstrong. 

    To me MLB is unique among major sports in its passivity toward PED's, and I blame the MLBPA more than any other group.  The owners and the commisioners were/are complicit, of course, but they have wanted good testing for much longer than the MLBPA, who actively fought testing and for all I know still do. 

     
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    If cycling has such stringent testing why did it take so long to catch Armstrong? It took 7 phony titles before he was exposed. What a joke. All testing has failed miserably and will continue to do so. All athletic competition is dirty and has been for decades. There is as much chance of stopping athletes from doping as there is of stopping drivers from running red lights. Rules are only as good as the repsect they are given by people. Enforcement will never keep up and can't cure the desire to cheat which is driven by man's greed. You cannot use enforcement to achieve honorable behavior. It comes from within or it doesn't come at all.





    "Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
    - Thomas Jefferson

     
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    Re: A-Rod and others facing suspension for PED use.

    http://espn.go.com/chicago/story/_/id/9301536/major-league-baseball-suspend-20-players-including-alex-rodriguez-ryan-braun-part-miami-investigation

    As always - 100% correct!

     
     
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