A. Sanchez

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    A. Sanchez

    Now that the Tigers have agreed to sign him, it means it's more likely that they will be now willing to trade Porcello. If Ben has any brains at all, he should make a move to get this kid. He's going to be one of the best in the near term, and he can still be had at a reasonable price.

     
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    Why in the world would the Bengals be in the market to trade Porcello if they have championship aspirations?

     
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    In response to carnie's comment:

    Why in the world would the Bengals be in the market to trade Porcello if they have championship aspirations?

    Good question ????


     
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    Why in the world would the Bengals be in the market to trade Porcello if they have championship aspirations?




    An abundance of starters, perhaps?

    Do you think he would be worth acquiring?

     
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    In response to Alibiike's comment:

    In response to carnie's comment:

    Why in the world would the Bengals be in the market to trade Porcello if they have championship aspirations?




    An abundance of starters, perhaps?

    Do you think he would be worth acquiring?




    Of course he would. I doubt very seriously if the Tigers make him available.

     
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    Even if it's someone else from the Tigers rotation who is shopped, hopefully Ben will do his due diligence. We could certainly use someone like Scherzer, Fister, or Smiley as well.

     
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    Even if it's someone else from the Tigers rotation who is shopped, hopefully Ben will do his due diligence. We could certainly use someone like Scherzer, Fister, or Smiley as well.



    All good and all seasoned, which I why think if they move anyone, it will be Porcello, as he shows some inconsistencies in his starts. But I still think under some strong coaching, he can be formidable in each start.

     
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    If Ben can work a deal for Porcello, all will be forgiven and I will quit bashing him.

     
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    In response to Alibiike's comment:

    If Ben can work a deal for Porcello, all will be forgiven and I will quit bashing him.



    yeah right

     
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    In response to Alibiike's comment:

    If Ben can work a deal for Porcello, all will be forgiven and I will quit bashing him.




    I'll believe that when I see it. That would be like BOSOX1941 not bashing Francona.

     
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    In response to carnie's comment:

    Why in the world would the Bengals be in the market to trade Porcello if they have championship aspirations?



    because with what they have spent in recent years and with Verlander's contract coming up soon they might not be able to afford him also

     
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    we needed an ace, not the leftover tigers starter.....we got dempster

     
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    we needed an ace, not the leftover tigers starter.....we got dempster



    Porcello will be an Ace.

     
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    we needed an ace, not the leftover tigers starter.....we got dempster



    Porcello will be an Ace.



    In the past 3 years,

    • Pitcher A is 34-33, with a 4.75 ERA and a 1.443 Whip and a 2.30 K/W
    • Pitcher B is 37-34, with a 4.04 ERA and a 1.327 Whip and a 2.51 K/W

    Which one is better and why?

     
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    In response to Joebreidey's comment:

    In response to Alibiike's comment:

    In response to georom4's comment:

    we needed an ace, not the leftover tigers starter.....we got dempster



    Porcello will be an Ace.



    In the past 3 years,

    • Pitcher A is 34-33, with a 4.75 ERA and a 1.443 Whip and a 2.30 K/W
    • Pitcher B is 37-34, with a 4.04 ERA and a 1.327 Whip and a 2.51 K/W

    Which one is better and why?



    Clearly it is pitcher A.

    He is 23, while pitcher B is 35.

     
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    Porcello is more of a future move, as well.  Despite having 4 years of MLB service time, this is a guy who is 3 days older than Bryce Brentz.   Obviously a lot of his control has been used up.

     

    I doubt Porcello ever reaches the status of ace by anyone's defintion of the word., but he certainly has the potential to be a very good pitcher.  And his GB tendencies will play better with an infleid of Pedroia-Iglesias-Middlebrooks behind him.

     
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    In response to moonslav59's comment:

    In response to Joebreidey's comment:

    In response to Alibiike's comment:

    In response to georom4's comment:

    we needed an ace, not the leftover tigers starter.....we got dempster



    Porcello will be an Ace.



    In the past 3 years,

    • Pitcher A is 34-33, with a 4.75 ERA and a 1.443 Whip and a 2.30 K/W
    • Pitcher B is 37-34, with a 4.04 ERA and a 1.327 Whip and a 2.51 K/W

    Which one is better and why?



    Clearly it is pitcher A.

    He is 23, while pitcher B is 35.



    I asked who was better, not who was older.

     
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    In response to Joebreidey's comment:

    In response to moonslav59's comment:

    In response to Joebreidey's comment:

    In response to Alibiike's comment:

    In response to georom4's comment:

    we needed an ace, not the leftover tigers starter.....we got dempster



    Porcello will be an Ace.



    In the past 3 years,

    • Pitcher A is 34-33, with a 4.75 ERA and a 1.443 Whip and a 2.30 K/W
    • Pitcher B is 37-34, with a 4.04 ERA and a 1.327 Whip and a 2.51 K/W

    Which one is better and why?



    Clearly it is pitcher A.

    He is 23, while pitcher B is 35.



    I asked who was better, not who was older.



    A is better because he is younger and likely to get better while B is older and likely to get worse. 

    You didn't ask who was better: you asked who "is" better?

     
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    In response to moonslav59's comment:

    In response to Joebreidey's comment:

    In response to moonslav59's comment:

    In response to Joebreidey's comment:

    In response to Alibiike's comment:

    In response to georom4's comment:

    we needed an ace, not the leftover tigers starter.....we got dempster



    Porcello will be an Ace.



    In the past 3 years,

    • Pitcher A is 34-33, with a 4.75 ERA and a 1.443 Whip and a 2.30 K/W
    • Pitcher B is 37-34, with a 4.04 ERA and a 1.327 Whip and a 2.51 K/W

    Which one is better and why?



    Clearly it is pitcher A.

    He is 23, while pitcher B is 35.



    I asked who was better, not who was older.



    A is better because he is younger and likely to get better while B is older and likely to get worse. 

    You didn't ask who was better: you asked who "is" better?



    Porcello had a 4.59 with a 1.531 Whip, and an .808 OPSa.

    Dempster had a 3.38, a 1.197 Whip, and a .677 OPSa.

    How much better is Porcello going to get next year, and how much for Dempster?

     
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    How old is Porcello? How old is Dempster? Who has more upside? Tell us Breidy.

     

    Rick Porcello's future with Tigers in doubt

     

     

     
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    In response to notin's comment:

    Porcello is more of a future move, as well.  Despite having 4 years of MLB service time, this is a guy who is 3 days older than Bryce Brentz.   Obviously a lot of his control has been used up.

     

    I doubt Porcello ever reaches the status of ace by anyone's defintion of the word., but he certainly has the potential to be a very good pitcher.  And his GB tendencies will play better with an infleid of Pedroia-Iglesias-Middlebrooks behind him.



    The lack of an IF around him is the first good point so far.  But like you said, control is slipping away.  When does he become a real asset v a modest improvement?

     
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    In response to Joebreidey's comment:

    In response to notin's comment:

    Porcello is more of a future move, as well.  Despite having 4 years of MLB service time, this is a guy who is 3 days older than Bryce Brentz.   Obviously a lot of his control has been used up.

     

    I doubt Porcello ever reaches the status of ace by anyone's defintion of the word., but he certainly has the potential to be a very good pitcher.  And his GB tendencies will play better with an infleid of Pedroia-Iglesias-Middlebrooks behind him.



    The lack of an IF around him is the first good point so far.  But like you said, control is slipping away.  When does he become a real asset v a modest improvement?



    He has 3 years of team control. His arb cost should not be too high, even if he has a couple big seasons.

     
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    Porcello had a 4.59 with a 1.531 Whip, and an .808 OPSa.

    Dempster had a 3.38, a 1.197 Whip, and a .677 OPSa.

    How much better is Porcello going to get next year, and how much for Dempster?

     

    In Boston with a projected IF including Iggy, Pedey and Middy, I'd guess Dempster would do better, but not by all the much, but to me, it should be more about 2014 & 2015 where I see the gap closing rapidly and the cost still having a wide disparity. 

     
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