Re: A wedge appears to be forming between Bobby Valentine and general manager Ben Cherington-Power struggle may weaken Sox ri...
posted at 3/24/2012 12:56 PM EDT
In Response to Re: A wedge appears to be forming between Bobby Valentine and general manager Ben Cherington-Power struggle may weaken Sox right off the bat
[QUOTE]Bobby knows what he is talking about....there is nothing that will make a team short circuit quicker then poor defense and blown leads by the bullpen. Agree .[/QUOTE]
Disagree - nothing was more instrumental in our September collapse than the failures of the rotation. Put out the five guys with the best chance to go seven strong.
Boston will have no problem scoring runs so Inglesias bat has time to develop. His defense will save more runs than Aviles can put on the scoreboard. Let us not forget when Pedroia came up he was batting under .200 the first few months of the season and people thought he was not ready, but Francona believed in him, and the rest is history. It all depends on how the rest of the bottom of the lineups is doing. If Salty-Ross-Sweeney (until Crawford is ready), are doing the job, then having a .230 hitter at No. 9 might not be a problem. But can Iggy hit .230? This is the A.L. and you can't have a batter hitting worse than an N.L. pitcher in the No. 9 hole no matter how good his defense is or how good the rest of the offense. Aviles isn't exactly a butcher at SS. There's still no need to rush the kid. Another year in the minors might be the best thing for everyone in the long term. And the Pedroia example is a BAD comparison. Pedroia had proven in the minors he could hit. That is why Francona stuck with him. Iggy has yet to prove he can hit in the minors.[QUOTE]
Agree here - the Pedroia comparison is idiotic. Iglesias hasn't proven he can hit, and Aviles hasn't proven he can't field. If anybody has earned a spot on the roster this spring, it's McDonald, and starting Iglesias all but ensures he's DFAd or traded for little return. You can make an argument that on the field Iglesias is a very, very slightly better option, but he has minor league options - when you factor in the roster moves, and the ramifications if he doesn't work out, it's really a no-brainer to start Iglesias at AAA.
[QUOTE] Bard had struggled this spring as a starter, while Aceves has flourished as a starter (a position he has been in before, and WANTS. Melancon and Bailey have given no confidence, Bard would be a more valuable in the back end of the bull pen. Aceves is much more valuable as a starter than long relief man, a role Aaron Cook can fill in nicely. This might be the best scenario. Bard struggled in the minors as a starter. I would give him a bit more time. Move Aceves out of the bullpen for Cook might be best, but Aceves was so valuable last year, I'd hate to lose him. Aceves has hardly flourished as a starter. He has a 4.18 ERA in just nine career starts. Hardly a large sample, but also it's a stretch to say he has flourished. If the choice is Aceves as a mediocre starter or excelling in the bullpen like last year, I say keep him in the bullpen. If Bard doesn't work out -- and I fear he won't -- but him in the bullpen too and try to find another starter.
Bard's in a tough position this Spring, because he wants to prove he belongs in the rotation, which means getting people out, but he also wants to work on his supplemental pitches, and do the things the coaching staff are asking of him. All in all, he's only had the one bad rain-split outing. He's had a lot of 1-2-3 innings. I don't think he'll have any trouble as a starter. I think moving him back to the bullpen without giving him a fair shot at the rotation would be a mistake - it would hurt his confidence and lead to resentment.
A 4.18 ERA is terrific for a fifth starter, and is likely inflated when compared to his overall numbers. It's not like he was a one inning guy, or a specialist - I think his bullpen numbers will be more representative of what he would do as a starter. Also, he's versatile enough that he does not have to only pitch in his starts - if there is a scheduling reason why he should be skipped, he could come in in long relief in other games if necessary.
Doubront will be a fine pitcher as a #5....but let us not forget the Matsuzaka will be back by June-July and they will have to find a spot for him somewhere. Knowing our luck as BoSox fans he will have his best year, causing management to have to decided whether or not to give me a contract extention. I hope Doubront is fine as the No. 5. He has yet to prove he can consistently do the job in the majors. He's been hurt a lot. Had he came to camp in shape last year, he might have been the answer when DiceK went down. What the Wake bashers failed to admit last year is that Francona was forced to go to Wake because the supposedly young and hungry prospect was acting like a Fat Cat and not working hard enough. Hopefully, he's matured and is ready now. I hope DiceK is ready by midseason. That will be a nice addition.
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I do have a lot of hope for Dice-K, from what I've been reading about his bullpen sessions. He could be back as early as June. Doubrount I have less faith in - I think he's basically a left-handed Kyle Weiland, which is not good enough for the Red Sox rotation. He could be a very good back of the rotation starter on a smaller market club. Maybe a deadline trade.