AAA and AA on Opening Day

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    I think most on the board look at Salty and are not happy. His body of work has a lot of holes. But in the context of all other major league C, Salty is in the upper third IMO. I think the key is limiting him to 120-125 games, and the Ross signing should do that. I also don't think the RS catcher in 2015 is on this roster. RS need a C that can mentor a young pitching staff. Ross can, but is too old to play 2-3 more years On a regular basis. Salty is making great stride as a mentor, but has physical limitations to be a great C. Lava IMO will never be a major league C. Remains to be seen if his bat gets him the the big leagues as a DH or 1B. If I am the RS, I scrap the idea of Lava catching, play him at DH and split 1B in AAA and let him focus on his hitting. 

     
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    I think most on the board look at Salty and are not happy. His body of work has a lot of holes. But in the context of all other major league C, Salty is in the upper third IMO. I think the key is limiting him to 120-125 games, and the Ross signing should do that. I also don't think the RS catcher in 2015 is on this roster. RS need a C that can mentor a young pitching staff. Ross can, but is too old to play 2-3 more years On a regular basis. Salty is making great stride as a mentor, but has physical limitations to be a great C. Lava IMO will never be a major league C. Remains to be seen if his bat gets him the the big leagues as a DH or 1B. If I am the RS, I scrap the idea of Lava catching, play him at DH and split 1B in AAA and let him focus on his hitting. 



    That might not be a bad idea, given the dearth of 1B prospects in the Red Sox' system.

     
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    It is going to be fun watching Bogaerts and Bradley with the Sea Dogs this year.

    If any of you ever get up to Maine you should check out a game.

    it is a great little park.

     
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    It is going to be fun watching Bogaerts and Bradley with the Sea Dogs this year.

    If any of you ever get up to Maine you should check out a game.

    it is a great little park.



    A bunch of us are going to try and get together for a game in Portland this summer (maybe around the 4th of July).

    More to come...

     
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    That Pawtucket lineup looks stacked, as does the rotation. Although I must say I don't understand the love affair with Alex Hassan. I would think Linares would be starting in left over him. This should be a make or break year for both Kolbrin Vitek and Adalberto Ibarra.

     




    theyre in love with his OBP. Hes usually in the 380-400 range

     

     




    I get the OBP skills, but he doesn't seem to bring much else to the table. How's his arm I wonder. Have you seen him play?

     

     




    He looks like a 4th OF'er/bat-off-the-bench type guy...

     


    he was a pitcher wasn't he.i would think his arm would be pretty good.he just din't pitch well so he tried the rick ankiel move of the outfield.

     

     
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    I think Linares is ready, but since he doesn't have to be on the 40 man roster this year to be protected, he may be left out in the cold.

    He may have to be hitting .330 with 18 HRs by July to get a chance at the bigs this year.

     
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    I think Linares is ready, but since he doesn't have to be on the 40 man roster this year to be protected, he may be left out in the cold.

    He may have to be hitting .330 with 18 HRs by July to get a chance at the bigs this year.




    You may be right, unless he has one H of a spring .  Personally would have no problem with him in Fenway, either platooned w' Gomer in lf or sharing a/b with Victorino in rf.

    When was the law passed regarding lefty/ righty platoons only, anyway ? Just what does J.C. have left to prove ?  And what pray tell is Hassan's limited upside / ceiling even doing on the 40-man ?

    On another thread, Moon you said you expected a ML contribution from Webster this year. I can realistically see Rubby DLR, but not A.W. , starting in 2013.

     
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    I think Linares is ready, but since he doesn't have to be on the 40 man roster this year to be protected, he may be left out in the cold.

    He may have to be hitting .330 with 18 HRs by July to get a chance at the bigs this year.

     




     

    You may be right, unless he has one H of a spring .  Personally would have no problem with him in Fenway, either platooned w' Gomer in lf or sharing a/b with Victorino in rf.

    When was the law passed regarding lefty/ righty platoons only, anyway ? Just what does J.C. have left to prove ?  And what pray tell is Hassan's limited upside / ceiling even doing on the 40-man ?

    On another thread, Moon you said you expected a ML contribution from Webster this year. I can realistically see Rubby DLR, but not A.W. , starting in 2013.



    For some reason, I really like Linares. I think if he had to be on the 40 man roster or DFA'd, he'd be chosen over Hassan.

    Hassan has had a very high OBP. That is why he sticks around.

    I think Webster may be the surprise in 2013, but I do think DLR has the better shot.

     
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    I think Linares is ready, but since he doesn't have to be on the 40 man roster this year to be protected, he may be left out in the cold.

    He may have to be hitting .330 with 18 HRs by July to get a chance at the bigs this year.

     




     

    You may be right, unless he has one H of a spring .  Personally would have no problem with him in Fenway, either platooned w' Gomer in lf or sharing a/b with Victorino in rf.

    When was the law passed regarding lefty/ righty platoons only, anyway ? Just what does J.C. have left to prove ?  And what pray tell is Hassan's limited upside / ceiling even doing on the 40-man ?

    On another thread, Moon you said you expected a ML contribution from Webster this year. I can realistically see Rubby DLR, but not A.W. , starting in 2013.

     



    For some reason, I really like Linares. I think if he had to be on the 40 man roster or DFA'd, he'd be chosen over Hassan.

     

    Hassan has had a very high OBP. That is why he sticks around.

    I think Webster may be the surprise in 2013, but I do think DLR has the better shot.




    i don't see Webster outpitching guys like Tazawa, Morales, Aveces, RDLR to get any starts in the rotation. Unless a lot of guys go down.

     
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    I think Linares is ready, but since he doesn't have to be on the 40 man roster this year to be protected, he may be left out in the cold.

    He may have to be hitting .330 with 18 HRs by July to get a chance at the bigs this year.

     




     

    You may be right, unless he has one H of a spring .  Personally would have no problem with him in Fenway, either platooned w' Gomer in lf or sharing a/b with Victorino in rf.

    When was the law passed regarding lefty/ righty platoons only, anyway ? Just what does J.C. have left to prove ?  And what pray tell is Hassan's limited upside / ceiling even doing on the 40-man ?

    On another thread, Moon you said you expected a ML contribution from Webster this year. I can realistically see Rubby DLR, but not A.W. , starting in 2013.

     



    For some reason, I really like Linares. I think if he had to be on the 40 man roster or DFA'd, he'd be chosen over Hassan.

     

    Hassan has had a very high OBP. That is why he sticks around.

    I think Webster may be the surprise in 2013, but I do think DLR has the better shot.

     




    i don't see Webster outpitching guys like Tazawa, Morales, Aveces, RDLR to get any starts in the rotation. Unless a lot of guys go down.

     



    I agree that the pitchers you mentioned seem better right now than Webster, but...

    1) Aceves should not start. He is great in the role as a middle/long guy.

    2) Let's say this is the starter dept chart: Buch/Lester/Lack/Doub/Demp are 5, then Morales (6), DLR (7), Tazawa (8 due to not being "stretched out"), Mortensen (9- not stretched out either), and 10 being Webster; the fact is we often use 8-10 starters over a season, so if Aceves, Tazawa, and Mortensen ar not stretched out, if Webster is doing well, he may be put in the #8 slot.

    3) There is also the question of injuries or complete meltdowns by a top 6 or 7 starter.

    Number of starts by our 6, 7, 8, 9+ starters over recent years:

    2012: (assuming Dice-K was #5 if healthy)

    6) Bard 10

    7) Cook 18

    8) Morales 9

    9) Stewart 2

     

    2011 (assuming Dice-K was #5)

    6) Wake  23

    7) Miller 12

    8) Weiland 5

    9) Bedard 8

    10) Aceves 4

     

    2010:

    6) Wake 19

    7) Doub 3

    8) Atchison 1

     

    2009:

    6) Wake 21

    7) Smoltz 8

    8) Masterson 6

    9) Byrd 6

    10) Tazawa 4

    11) Bowden 1

     

    2008:

    6) Colon  7

    7) Byrd 8

    8) Masterson 9

    9) Pauley 2

    10-11) Bowden/Zink 1 each

     

    In total, we have seen 39, 52, 23, 46, and 28 GS'd by our depth starters over the last 5 seasons. That's about 38 starts on average-- 46 avg the last 2 years, not even counting Lackey as the 5th starter in 2012. If you count Lackey and make Doub the 6th starter, the 2 year avg would be 60 GS'd by our 6th or lower starters over the past 2 years!

    There's a decent chance Webster gets a look, if he is doing well in AAA by the summer.

     

     

     

     
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    I think Webster is pitching on his schedule, that is when he is ready. He will leap frog Mortenson, Tawaza and Morales. Sox have a lot of redundancy in the pen. I expect more deals...

    Aceves, Uheara, Mortenson, Morales-multi inning guys

    Tawaza, Bard, Bailey, Breslow-8th inning guys

    Morales, Miller, Breslow-leftie specialists

     
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    I think Linares is ready, but since he doesn't have to be on the 40 man roster this year to be protected, he may be left out in the cold.

    He may have to be hitting .330 with 18 HRs by July to get a chance at the bigs this year.

     




     

    You may be right, unless he has one H of a spring .  Personally would have no problem with him in Fenway, either platooned w' Gomer in lf or sharing a/b with Victorino in rf.

    When was the law passed regarding lefty/ righty platoons only, anyway ? Just what does J.C. have left to prove ?  And what pray tell is Hassan's limited upside / ceiling even doing on the 40-man ?

    On another thread, Moon you said you expected a ML contribution from Webster this year. I can realistically see Rubby DLR, but not A.W. , starting in 2013.

     



    For some reason, I really like Linares. I think if he had to be on the 40 man roster or DFA'd, he'd be chosen over Hassan.

     

    Hassan has had a very high OBP. That is why he sticks around.

    I think Webster may be the surprise in 2013, but I do think DLR has the better shot.

     




    i don't see Webster outpitching guys like Tazawa, Morales, Aveces, RDLR to get any starts in the rotation. Unless a lot of guys go down.

     

     



    I agree that the pitchers you mentioned seem better right now than Webster, but...

     

    1) Aceves should not start. He is great in the role as a middle/long guy.

    2) Let's say this is the starter dept chart: Buch/Lester/Lack/Doub/Demp are 5, then Morales (6), DLR (7), Tazawa (8 due to not being "stretched out"), Mortensen (9- not stretched out either), and 10 being Webster; the fact is we often use 8-10 starters over a season, so if Aceves, Tazawa, and Mortensen ar not stretched out, if Webster is doing well, he may be put in the #8 slot.

    3) There is also the question of injuries or complete meltdowns by a top 6 or 7 starter.

    Number of starts by our 6, 7, 8, 9+ starters over recent years:

    2012: (assuming Dice-K was #5 if healthy)

    6) Bard 10

    7) Cook 18

    8) Morales 9

    9) Stewart 2

     

    2011 (assuming Dice-K was #5)

    6) Wake  23

    7) Miller 12

    8) Weiland 5

    9) Bedard 8

    10) Aceves 4

     

    2010:

    6) Wake 19

    7) Doub 3

    8) Atchison 1

     

    2009:

    6) Wake 21

    7) Smoltz 8

    8) Masterson 6

    9) Byrd 6

    10) Tazawa 4

    11) Bowden 1

     

    2008:

    6) Colon  7

    7) Byrd 8

    8) Masterson 9

    9) Pauley 2

    10-11) Bowden/Zink 1 each

     

    In total, we have seen 39, 52, 23, 46, and 28 GS'd by our depth starters over the last 5 seasons. That's about 38 starts on average-- 46 avg the last 2 years, not even counting Lackey as the 5th starter in 2012. If you count Lackey and make Doub the 6th starter, the 2 year avg would be 60 GS'd by our 6th or lower starters over the past 2 years!

    There's a decent chance Webster gets a look, if he is doing well in AAA by the summer.

     

     

     




    It's interesting to look back through some of the guys who have started games through us over the years...some I'd completely forgotten about. (Charlie Zink? LOL.)

    2006 was a complete mess, as I recall...everybody and their brother got to make a start or three at some point.

     
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    I think Linares is ready, but since he doesn't have to be on the 40 man roster this year to be protected, he may be left out in the cold.

    He may have to be hitting .330 with 18 HRs by July to get a chance at the bigs this year.



    It also doesnt help that he's a righty.

     
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    I think Linares is ready, but since he doesn't have to be on the 40 man roster this year to be protected, he may be left out in the cold.

    He may have to be hitting .330 with 18 HRs by July to get a chance at the bigs this year.

     




     

    You may be right, unless he has one H of a spring .  Personally would have no problem with him in Fenway, either platooned w' Gomer in lf or sharing a/b with Victorino in rf.

    When was the law passed regarding lefty/ righty platoons only, anyway ? Just what does J.C. have left to prove ?  And what pray tell is Hassan's limited upside / ceiling even doing on the 40-man ?

    On another thread, Moon you said you expected a ML contribution from Webster this year. I can realistically see Rubby DLR, but not A.W. , starting in 2013.



    In order for Linares to get at-bats in a righty/righty platoon, he would need to be a better option than Gomes against righties.  Otherwise , whats the point.

     
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    I think Webster is pitching on his schedule, that is when he is ready. He will leap frog Mortenson, Tawaza and Morales. Sox have a lot of redundancy in the pen. I expect more deals...

    Aceves, Uheara, Mortenson, Morales-multi inning guys

    Tawaza, Bard, Bailey, Breslow-8th inning guys

    Morales, Miller, Breslow-leftie specialists



    Taz can be a starter if they want him to be.

    Breslow is more than a lefty specialist. He gets righties out at about  the same rate: vs LHBs: 226 BA against /.631 OPS against & vs RHBs: .224 BA/ .654 OPS.

    Last year, Miller had a .400 point OPS against swing vs RHBs!!!

    vs LHBs: .429/vsRHBs .829

    Morales was nearly the same (.490 vs .788)

     

    I would like to see us make a 2 or 3 for 1 trade, but I doubt it happens. We often use 15-20 pitchers a year, so ...

     
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    It's interesting to look back through some of the guys who have started games through us over the years...some I'd completely forgotten about. (Charlie Zink? LOL.)

    2006 was a complete mess, as I recall...everybody and their brother got to make a start or three at some point.

    Indeed...

    Beckett 33, Schill 31, Wake 23, Clement 12, Wells 8

    depth:

    Lester 15

    Synder 10

    Tavarez 6

    DiNardo 6

    Ja. Johnson 6

    Gabbard 4

    Jarvis 3

    Pauley 3

    Hansack 2

    Total: 55

     
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    I think Linares is ready, but since he doesn't have to be on the 40 man roster this year to be protected, he may be left out in the cold.

    He may have to be hitting .330 with 18 HRs by July to get a chance at the bigs this year.

     



    It also doesnt help that he's a righty.

     



    True, but if he's raking in AAA...

     
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    Linares and Travis Shaw remain my 2 sleeper prospects on the Sox farm.

     
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    With Kalish out, who is the AAA starting CF'er?

         AAA                      AA

    C    Lava/Butler             Vazquez/Ibarra

    1B Gomez/Hamilton     T Shaw/Hedman

    2B Holt                             Meneses

    3B Sutton                         Vitek

    SS Iggy                             Bogaerts

    LF Hassan                        Jacobs

    CF (Kalish)                           Bradley

    RF Brentz                          Hissey/Wilkerson

    DH Linares                        Almanzar

    IF Henry/Diaz/Dent       Gibson

    OF Hazelbaker                 (see RF)

    S1 Webster                        Barnes

    S2 de la Rosa                     Britton

    S3 Wright                           Workman

    S4 Hernandez                   Ranaudo

    S5 Doyle                            Couch

    R1 Bard                              A Carter

    R2 Tazawa                         Kurcz

    R3 Wilson                           Balcom-Miller

    R4 Carpenter                     Celestino

    R5 Beato                            C Martin

    R6 de la Torre                    P Ruiz

    R7 Godfrey                         Jones/Kaminska

     
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    idk what the hell you think your doing mr. Moon but you better get Tazawas name into that starting rotation!

    to answer your question, Brentz maybe? i'm not too sure of his wheels though, whatever happened to Jason Repko? In anycase, you can bet JBJ is eyeing that spot. Wonder how quickly he will grab it?

     
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    I think Bradley may as well play CF in Pawtucket. 

     
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    I think Bradley may as well play CF in Pawtucket. 




    I don't think anyone should get a free pass unless no one else can play the position. You shouldn't be moved up until you are deserving.

     
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    idk what the hell you think your doing mr. Moon but you better get Tazawas name into that starting rotation!

    I agree 100%, but since he has options left, unless omeone is hurt, he will probably be in AAA of in the pen. That's why i am hoping for a 2 or 3 for 1 deal/

    to answer your question, Brentz maybe? i'm not too sure of his wheels though, whatever happened to Jason Repko? In anycase, you can bet JBJ is eyeing that spot. Wonder how quickly he will grab it?




    Not sure Brentz should be in CF. Linares? Henry/Diaz/Dent?

     
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    Can Linares play CF well enough?

     
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    Watching the farm this year may be more fun than watching  the big club.

     

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