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    About that Tommy John Surgery...

    The Henry Ford Health System studied TJ surgery and discovered it's not your Father's

    Oldsmobile;

     http://www.henryford.com/body.cfm?id=46335&action=detail&ref=2052

     
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    The Henry Ford Health System studied TJ surgery and discovered it's not your Father's

    Oldsmobile;

     http://www.henryford.com/body.cfm?id=46335&action=detail&ref=2052

     

     

    [/QUOTE]Is there any CONCERN here ???


     
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    The Henry Ford Health System studied TJ surgery and discovered it's not your Father's

    Oldsmobile;

     http://www.henryford.com/body.cfm?id=46335&action=detail&ref=2052

     

     

     

    Is there any CONCERN here ???


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    Yes, when the answer is TJ, the question is OVAH!

     
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    MLB Pitchers Don’t Regain Performance Level after Tommy John Surgery

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    DETROIT – Major League Baseball players who undergo Tommy John surgery are less likely to regain the performance level they had before surgery, according to a Henry Ford Hospital study.

    The study is the first to show a link between the surgery and declining pitching performance at the professional level. It also involved the largest cohort of professional pitchers to date to examine the issue.

     
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    MLB Pitchers Don’t Regain Performance Level after Tommy John Surgery

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    Tuesday, March 11, 2014                                                           
                                                                                                                           

    DETROIT – Major League Baseball players who undergo Tommy John surgery are less likely to regain the performance level they had before surgery, according to a Henry Ford Hospital study.

    The study is the first to show a link between the surgery and declining pitching performance at the professional level. It also involved the largest cohort of professional pitchers to date to examine the issue.

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    Well, if they're not as good as before, can they reverse the entire procedure by having that Johnny Tom surgery?

     
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    MLB Pitchers Don’t Regain Performance Level after Tommy John Surgery

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    Tuesday, March 11, 2014                                                           
                                                                                                                           

    DETROIT – Major League Baseball players who undergo Tommy John surgery are less likely to regain the performance level they had before surgery, according to a Henry Ford Hospital study.

    The study is the first to show a link between the surgery and declining pitching performance at the professional level. It also involved the largest cohort of professional pitchers to date to examine the issue.

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    Don't agree. case in point John Lackey. Many pitchers claim that after having TJ surgery that they are throwing harder than they have in many yrs. Can't see how this leads to decline? Can see pitchers who've missed yr to yr+ 1/2 missing on location and getting lit up because of this but if most claim to be throwing harder can't see this as a decline. The number of pitchers who have had TJ surgery is incredible and yet the pitching in MLB seems to be getting better and better while offensive #'s are declining. Think TJ surgery has kept a lot of good pitchers in the game that yrs ago would have been forced to retire.


    Well, if they're not as good as before, can they reverse the entire procedure by having that Johnny Tom surgery?

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    MLB Pitchers Don’t Regain Performance Level after Tommy John Surgery

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    Tuesday, March 11, 2014                                                           
                                                                                                                           

    DETROIT – Major League Baseball players who undergo Tommy John surgery are less likely to regain the performance level they had before surgery, according to a Henry Ford Hospital study.

    The study is the first to show a link between the surgery and declining pitching performance at the professional level. It also involved the largest cohort of professional pitchers to date to examine the issue.

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    Don't agree. case in point John Lackey. Many pitchers claim that after having TJ surgery that they are throwing harder than they have in many yrs. Can't see how this leads to decline? Can see pitchers who've missed yr to yr+ 1/2 missing on location and getting lit up because of this but if most claim to be throwing harder can't see this as a decline. The number of pitchers who have had TJ surgery is incredible and yet the pitching in MLB seems to be getting better and better while offensive #'s are declining. Think TJ surgery has kept a lot of good pitchers in the game that yrs ago would have been forced to retire.


    Well, if they're not as good as before, can they reverse the entire procedure by having that Johnny Tom surgery?

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    Gary, the study looked at a full spectrum of pitcher types, and mapped their results both before and after the surgery.While many believe that the surgery is successful and re-invigorates pitchers, the data concludes otherwise. The perception is so pervasive, some parents seek the surgery before there is a problem. As for Lackey, the one year is not enough to say, the study looked at three years as a control.

     
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    Speaking of Tommy John surgery, Jarod Parker of the A's will be out for the year.  Huge blow for the A's.  Give us Cespedes and Donaldson and we will give you Peavy.   LOL

     
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    MLB Pitchers Don’t Regain Performance Level after Tommy John Surgery

    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE                                           
    Tuesday, March 11, 2014                                                           
                                                                                                                           

    DETROIT – Major League Baseball players who undergo Tommy John surgery are less likely to regain the performance level they had before surgery, according to a Henry Ford Hospital study.

    The study is the first to show a link between the surgery and declining pitching performance at the professional level. It also involved the largest cohort of professional pitchers to date to examine the issue.

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    Don't agree. case in point John Lackey. Many pitchers claim that after having TJ surgery that they are throwing harder than they have in many yrs. Can't see how this leads to decline? Can see pitchers who've missed yr to yr+ 1/2 missing on location and getting lit up because of this but if most claim to be throwing harder can't see this as a decline. The number of pitchers who have had TJ surgery is incredible and yet the pitching in MLB seems to be getting better and better while offensive #'s are declining. Think TJ surgery has kept a lot of good pitchers in the game that yrs ago would have been forced to retire.


    Well, if they're not as good as before, can they reverse the entire procedure by having that Johnny Tom surgery?

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    Gary, the study looked at a full spectrum of pitcher types, and mapped their results both before and after the surgery.While many believe that the surgery is successful and re-invigorates pitchers, the data concludes otherwise. The perception is so pervasive, some parents seek the surgery before there is a problem. As for Lackey, the one year is not enough to say, the study looked at three years as a control.

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    Would like to read this study. But there are many variables that go into a players performance after TJ surgery Age / amount of time lost / type of pitcher power vs finesse / etc. Guys like Jarrod Parker now going for his 2nd TJ surgery his 1st while in minors is a guy who was as good as new after it. the list of guys who have excelled after includes:

    1. John Smoltz

    2. Tim Hudson

    3. Billy Wagner

    4. Jordan Zimmerman

    5. Joe Nathan

    6. Chris Carpenter

    7. Stephen Strasburg

    8. AJ Burnett

    9. Kerry Wood

    10. Bret Anderson

    11. Charlie Morton

    All are pitchers who have had TJ Surgery [many others] who have had very productive if not almost identical #'s after TJ surgery. While not all can come back to be as good as new, the TJ surgery has saved many a career. Some like Smoltz/Carpenter HOF type careers. While any major surgery on an arm to mlb pitcher is not good the results w/ TJ surgery is alot better than a shoulder injury.

     

     

     
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