AL Rookie of the Year

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    AL Rookie of the Year

    Looks like Nova has a pretty good shot.

    With all the discussion of 2011 awards, I haven't heard much mention of Ivan Nova for Rookie of the Year. Puzzling as it is, Nova HAS flown under the radar as not only one of the best rookies in the league, but has been one of the best pitchers in the league.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/834588-yankees-is-ivan-nova-rookie-of-the-year-candidate

     
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    This is from Hardballtalkat NBCsports.com 

    http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/30/another-look-at-the-al-rookie-of-the-year-race/

    Here are how the candidates rank according to Baseball-Reference’s WAR:

    1. Jeremy Hellickson: 2.7
    2.  Michael Pineda: 2.6
    3.  Desmond Jennings: 2.5
    4.  Dustin Ackley: 2.3
    4.  Aaron Crow: 2.3
    6.  Mark Trumbo: 2.1
    7.  Ivan Nova: 1.9
    7.  Greg Holland: 1.9
    7.  Chris Sale: 1.9
    10. Jordan Walden: 1.8
    11.  Vinnie Pestano: 1.7
    12. Casper Wells: 1.6
    13. Josh Reddick: 1.5
    14.  Mike Carp: 1.2
    14.  Al Alburquerque: 1.2
    16. Zach Britton: 1.0
    17.  J.P. Arencibia: 0.9
    17.  Jemile Weeks: 0.9

     
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    Re: AL Rookie of the Year

    It looks like he has more wins than any Sox pitcher has but that can't be right.
     
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    [QUOTE]It looks like he has more wins than any Sox pitcher has but that can't be right.
    Posted by mikeyintheboogiedown[/QUOTE]

    See how having more wins helped CC last year in the Cy Young voting?
     
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    [QUOTE]This is from Hardballtalkat NBCsports.com  http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/30/another-look-at-the-al-rookie-of-the-year-race/ Here are how the candidates rank according to Baseball-Reference’s WAR: 1. Jeremy Hellickson : 2.7 2.   Michael Pineda : 2.6 3.   Desmond Jennings : 2.5 4.   Dustin Ackley : 2.3 4.   Aaron Crow : 2.3 6.   Mark Trumbo : 2.1 7.   Ivan Nova : 1.9 7.   Greg Holland : 1.9 7.   Chris Sale : 1.9 10. Jordan Walden : 1.8 11.   Vinnie Pestano : 1.7 12. Casper Wells : 1.6 13. Josh Reddick : 1.5 14.   Mike Carp : 1.2 14.   Al Alburquerque : 1.2 16. Zach Britton : 1.0 17.   J.P. Arencibia : 0.9 17.   Jemile Weeks : 0.9

    Posted by mrmojo1120[/QUOTE]

    But remember that WAR is a cumulative stat and Nova spent some time in AAA.

    Plus he's doing it on a much bigger stage in a pennant race.

     
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    Re: AL Rookie of the Year

    I'll go with Hellickson, but Ackley will be the real star to emerge from this class.
     
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    This is from an interesting article at riveraveblues.com.

    http://riveraveblues.com/2011/08/the-rookie-of-the-year-race-54712/


    It doesn’t really feel right to put Ivan Nova in the same class as Pineda and Ackley, but it’s possible it will happen this November when the ballots are revealed. This is largely because Nova is currently the owner of a 12-4 win-loss record, one that might lead you to believe he’s been better than Pineda. He hasn’t been.
     
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    [QUOTE]This is from an interesting article at riveraveblues.com. http://riveraveblues.com/2011/08/the-rookie-of-the-year-race-54712/ It doesn’t really feel right to put Ivan Nova in the same class as Pineda and Ackley, but it’s possible it will happen this November when the ballots are revealed. This is largely because Nova is currently the owner of a 12-4 win-loss record, one that might lead you to believe he’s been better than Pineda. He hasn’t been.
    Posted by mrmojo1120[/QUOTE]

    Umm Nova is 15-4, this is a little outdated.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: AL Rookie of the Year : Umm Nova is 15-4
    Posted by mikeyintheboogiedown[/QUOTE]

    That was a quote from the August 20th article when he was 12-4.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: AL Rookie of the Year : That was a quote from the August 20th article when he was 12-4.
    Posted by mrmojo1120[/QUOTE]

    W/L, (corrected for Run Support perhaps) is indicative of how a pitcher delivers under pressuue; the fact that Nova and Sale have the same WAR just about says it all when it comes to WAR.
     
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    [QUOTE]Looks like Nova has a pretty good shot. Posted by -*The-Babe*-[/QUOTE]

    As our old friend Jose would have said, "Who cares?"
     
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    Re: AL Rookie of the Year

    In Response to Re: AL Rookie of the Year:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: AL Rookie of the Year : But remember that WAR is a cumulative stat and Nova spent some time in AAA. Plus he's doing it on a much bigger stage in a pennant race.
    Posted by -*The-Babe*-[/QUOTE]
    I am encouraged that Seattle has two of the top four, and four of the top 14, in the WAR rankings. Dustin Ackley and Mike Carp each played 66 games at Triple A this year, so their cumulative WAR are for partial MLB seasons.
     

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