An idea for Captain Varitek and the Red Sox

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    An idea for Captain Varitek and the Red Sox

    If Jason Varitek is NOT signed by another ML team, of course there has already been rumors that Dan Duquette, the new Orioles GM who traded for Varitek and Derek Lowe when Dan was the Red Sox GM, may sign Jason. He very well could be a good mentor to Wieters and other players on the Orioles.  No, I don't think the Captain is responsible for the September collapse nor could he done much to prevent it and none of know what he did or did not do, cause no one is going to publicly say what the Captain may have said or done, and a little like Terry Francona, the Captain does not throw his teammates under the bus.  BUT if NOT signed, Red Sox could ask Jason to come to ST maybe as a roving ml catching instructor. Presume Jason gets along with Gary Tuck, the Red Sox bullpen coach and catching instructor, Jason would certainly be of value with young catchers and maybe even pitchers, may have aspirations to eventually become a ML coach or Mgr., might even have interest some day in managing in the Red Sox system in Salem,VA or Greenville, SC. Jason is engaged to re-marry a lady from Massachusetts. Red Sox will have a place at some point in Pawtucket, Lowell or Portland to get experience as a Mgr., but it is often said, ML players make too much $ these days so that fewer want to coach or manage when they retire.  that is a decision the Captain and his fiancee have to make.  Maybe as a roving catching instructor, if he stays in shape, maybe it would give Ben Cherington and Bobby Valentine peace of mind, that they would have an experienced catcher working for the team in the event the Sox need to activate Jason cause of catcher injuries like the team had in 2010? Maybe Dan Duquette will change all of this. Probably, no one among Ben Cherington, Dan Duquette or the Captain are looking for our advice. 
     
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    Don't forget to participate in one of the other 3+ Tek threads created in the past 24 hours.
     
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    You lost me at "Captain"
     
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    The last two names the Red Sox need to  be thinking about are VAritek and Wastefield. Half a billion dollars netted zero playoff wins and two third place finishes. Getting rid of 40 year old multi-million dollar roster members is a good start for 2012.
     
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    a roving catching instructor.....doesnt our system already have coaches???? i guess Tek needs the money now that he has to support two families...I really think this might be why he isnt retiring....in the old days the money wasnt worth trashing your legacy and you would quit when you couldnt play...now you have these forty something players like Wake & Tek who will play for anyone as long as they get a check....trust me, Tek could care less about the Sox and being captain...he wants to get paid - even if he knows he cant play anymore - same for Wake...
     
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    Varitek and Wastefield are examples of socialist Red Sox policy. No one wants the non-productive old bums, but many fans feel sorry for them and want them paid more for what they did in the past. Wastefield has been paid over 50 million dollars by the Red Sox. Varitek, a lot more than that. Wastefield and Varitek should be cleaning Henry's toilet, for nothing.
     
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    Do a survey as an OP and see what percentage of BDC thinks that Tek and Wake should retire. My guess is that 90% would say that they both should retire. What we have here is most gentlemen keeping their opinions to themselves instead of preaching to the choir. For some reason the buffoons here think that repeating themselves ad nauseum and beating a dead horse are necessary when they really aren't.
     
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    For droning, see the post, directly above.
     
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    Yes it is a pity that Tek should not be brought back for a "final year". Fans seem unable to grasp that Tek had an opportunity for a final year twice already, 2010 and 2011. How many chances should he receive at $1,000,000 per before he gets the balls up to admit his final year has already occurred.

    Wakefield ever the entertainer only wants to provide we the fan the opportunity to see him win a few games more, and at the meager expense of $250k per victory.

    Why go away willingly when a blind FO and a zombiefied fans base continues to allow you to stay?
     
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    I would be happy to have Varitek back in any capacity. His knowledge of players, and his ability to handle pitchers is something that shouldn't just be thrown away. They trust him for a reason.

    I'll also add the fact that he was the catcher in four no-hitters. Anyone who believes it's all about the pitching is wrong.
     
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    Both Wakefield and Tek should have been let go after the 2008 season.

    Granted both Tek and Wake had very good (Esp Wake) first halves of 2009, but pretty much nothing since then.  And I'd rather lose half a season of excellent contributions than to have to deal with 2 1/2 seasons worth of garbage.
     
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    In Response to Re: An idea for Captain Varitek and the Red Sox:
    [QUOTE]I would be happy to have Varitek back in any capacity. His knowledge of players, and his ability to handle pitchers is something that shouldn't just be thrown away. They trust him for a reason. I'll also add the fact that he was the catcher in four no-hitters. Anyone who believes it's all about the pitching is wrong.
    Posted by kimsaysthis[/QUOTE]


    kim you are funny, common now admit you are kidding.
     
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    Wakefield ever the entertainer only wants to provide we the fan the opportunity to see him win a few games more, and at the meager expense of $250k per victory.

    Why go away willingly when a blind FO and a zombiefied fans base continues to allow you to stay?

    True, but million dollar contracts to MLBPA members Varitek and Wastefield is an example of Obama's social justice invisible iron hand at work. Do not discard the old and pitiful, give them a contract and a soft chair.
     
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    In Response to Re: An idea for Captain Varitek and the Red Sox:
    [QUOTE]Yes it is a pity that Tek should not be brought back for a "final year". Fans seem unable to grasp that Tek had an opportunity for a final year twice already, 2010 and 2011. How many chances should he receive at $1,000,000 per before he gets the balls up to admit his final year has already occurred. Wakefield ever the entertainer only wants to provide we the fan the opportunity to see him win a few games more, and at the meager expense of $250k per victory. Why go away willingly when a blind FO and a zombiefied fans base continues to allow you to stay?
    Posted by BurritoT[/QUOTE]

    Burrito, this farce is going to end very ugly one way or another.  It is clear that the Boston press, Radio and TV media and most of the fans do not want these guys back because they know these two are through, but for some idiotic reason the front office simply cannot let loose of the apron strings.  They have become sacred cows and Lucchino will be dam@ed if he will let them go.  So they potentially are there to take two vital roster spots that should go to more deserving players.  Do you know that in September Varitek came up 11 times with either the bases loaded or with runners on second and third and failed all 11 times?  Eight of those times he struck out.  He hit 077 in September and under 200 from mid-June on.  Wastefield was even more pathetic on the mound.  He became a human pinata on  the mound.  It is simply time for both of these bums to get lost.
     
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    geez, seaBFred...those VTek stats are going to give me nightmare flashbacks of September...amazing that these two aged salamis even get their phone calls returned...
     
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    Tek was great from 99 through 07 which is pretty remarkable for a catcher

    Wakefield really only had 2 great years - 2002 & 2003 and perhaps 2005
     
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    "It is clear that the Boston press, Radio and TV media and most of the fans do not want these guys back because they know these two are through, but for some idiotic reason the front office simply cannot let loose of the apron strings."

    What is the SOP on this by other teams? Do other teams schedule a press conference and make the announcement to a room full of media that players X and Y will not be a part of the 40 man roster this year? Just curious.
     
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    In Response to Re: An idea for Captain Varitek and the Red Sox:
    [QUOTE]Both Wakefield and Tek should have been let go after the 2008 season. Granted both Tek and Wake had very good (Esp Wake) first halves of 2009, but pretty much nothing since then.  And I'd rather lose half a season of excellent contributions than to have to deal with 2 1/2 seasons worth of garbage.
    Posted by andrewmitch[/QUOTE]

    You could do a whole lot worse than 22-23 with a 5.08 over three seasons for $9.5M.

    Or Tek's .720 OPS over three years for $10M.

    You kind of need to know how much backups get before commenting.
     
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    [QUOTE]Tek was great from 99 through 07 which is pretty remarkable for a catcher Wakefield really only had 2 great years - 2002 & 2003 and perhaps 2005
    Posted by andrewmitch[/QUOTE]

    That has no bearing.  Who cares when Wake was great.  When you pay a very low salary, you shouldn't expect greatness.
     
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    [QUOTE]"It is clear that the Boston press, Radio and TV media and most of the fans do not want these guys back because they know these two are through, but for some idiotic reason the front office simply cannot let loose of the apron strings." 

    What is the SOP on this by other teams? Do other teams schedule a press conference and make the announcement to a room full of media that players X and Y will not be a part of the 40 man roster this year? Just curious.
    Posted by UticaClub[/QUOTE]

    Sure, Brian Cashman calls me every time he makes a move.  See, the NYY care who their fans want to see on the field.  Of Course, Cashman didn't know I was a RS fan, so when I told him to sign Soriano, he listened to me.
     
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    In Response to Re: An idea for Captain Varitek and the Red Sox:
    [QUOTE]Yes it is a pity that Tek should not be brought back for a "final year". Fans seem unable to grasp that Tek had an opportunity for a final year twice already, 2010 and 2011. How many chances should he receive at $1,000,000 per before he gets the balls up to admit his final year has already occurred. Wakefield ever the entertainer only wants to provide we the fan the opportunity to see him win a few games more, and at the meager expense of $250k per victory. Why go away willingly when a blind FO and a zombiefied fans base continues to allow you to stay?
    Posted by BurritoT[/QUOTE]

    I don't agree with you that Wake should stay, but it is nice that you recognize what a great bargain he's been at $250k per victory.  Most of the cementheads don't realize that.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: An idea for Captain Varitek and the Red Sox : kim you are funny, common now admit you are kidding.
    Posted by BurritoT[/QUOTE]

    No. Not kidding. You have to be kidding if you don't want him back even in a coaching position. Who knows pitchers and batters better than him?
     
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    I was serious about this Standard Operating Procedure question and I would appreciate answers.

    What is the SOP on this by other teams? Do other teams schedule a press conference and make the announcement to a room full of media that players X and Y will not be a part of the 40 man roster this year? Just curious.
    Posted by UticaClub

     

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