Another great trade Lowire for minor leaguer

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    Another great trade Lowire for minor leaguer

    While its early and Lowire may still get hurt he is putting pretty good #s .321 ba .924 obs and what we get a minor leaguer!!
     
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    Good for Jed--fresh start, good opportunity to play for a rebuilding team, not a whole lot of scrutiny from fans and media. Hopefully his injury history is well behind him. Continued success. We may see him when the Astros join the AL--next year , I think.

    The Sox got what they were after--Mark Melancon--who will eventually make his mark in Boston. Sometimes there are a few bumps in the road---he'll be fine or he'll be traded--in either case a new beginning. Good luck to you Mark.
     
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    [QUOTE]Good for Jed--fresh start, good opportunity to play for a rebuilding team, not a whole lot of scrutiny from fans and media. Hopefully his injury history is well behind him. Continued success. We may see him when the Astros join the AL--next year , I think. The Sox got what they were after--Mark Melancon--who will eventually make his mark in Boston. Sometimes there are a few bumps in the road---he'll be fine or he'll be traded--in either case a new beginning. Good luck to you Mark.
    Posted by MadMc44[/QUOTE]
      Make his "Mark" in Boston??? He might have already...the Saturday debacle against the Yankees....

     
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    another bedtime story by rookie... go back 20-30 pages and start from there rookie..
     
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    Melancon had plenty of company when the bullpen went south.  Aceves himself contributed 5 runs to the 15-9 loss to the Yankees after a 9-0 Sox lead.  Since that game, the entire bullpen has been lights out.  When Melancon returns, he will no doubt contribute but right now Bobby V and the FO don't want to mess with success. 

    Lowrie had plenty of chances with the Sox and even some success, but it made sense to let him go. 
     
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    [QUOTE]While its early and Lowire may still get hurt he is putting pretty good #s .321 ba .924 obs and what we get a minor leaguer!!
    Posted by ncsoxfan4life[/QUOTE]

    We got a proven major league reliever who is going through a rough patch right now but this will prove to be a good trade. Lowrie needed a fresh start somewhere else. You were probably someone who couldn't wait to see him go, and now you just pooring out sour grapes. Typical Troll Fan. 
     
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    [QUOTE]While its early and Lowire may still get hurt he is putting pretty good #s .321 ba .924 obs and what we get a minor leaguer!!
    Posted by ncsoxfan4life[/QUOTE]

    To have an ounce of credibility, it only takes a minute to figure out how to spell a players name when you are referring to him in your topic. I don't know who Lowire is but Jed Lowrie is off to a decent start, similar to what he did in Boston early last year.

     
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    Good for Jed. Very glad he is doing well. As far as the future goes, who knows for Lowrie in terms of injuries and Melancon if he was even close to worth the deal.
     
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    Melancon has a lot of years of control. We should wait to judge the merits of this deal.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Another great trade Lowire for minor leaguer : You think every fan who thinks the front office has screwed up every move it has made in the last five years is a troll. You are an idiot fool. Name five GOOD moves theo and ben have made in the last five years. We are die hard fans who want the red sox to win and get angered everytime we see someone supposed on our side destroying the sox. Jed should be the starting shortstop for the red sox this year.
    Posted by teddybaseball009[/QUOTE]

    Your comments are absurd. How can you judge a trade on May 7th? To do so you know nothing about baseball. Lowrie has a horrible injury history. He started great last year then collapsed..Melancon was excellent last year in a pitchers park At  AAA he has pitched 8 innngs 0 runs with a whoppng 12 strike outs and 0 walks!!! No good deals? Aviles has been excellent at short with far better range and stronger arm than Lowrie Cody Ross at a good price? Sweeney & Bailey for Reddick is a steal. Sweeney leads the league in doubles and has a 939 OPS guess its Ben's fault Bailey fell and hurt his hand Marlon Byrd for Bowden (a bum) to fill in for Ells... Shoppach for nothing? Good catcher & arm (better than Salty) Clay Mortenson looking great out of pen for Scutaro who is replaced by Aviles Giving Ortiz arbitraton and "over paying him" Youd be all over Ben on this move if Pap slowed down and couldnt hit most people thought Ben was wrong signing him He was Right!! Youre waaaay off base
     
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    In Response to Re: Another great trade Lowire for minor leaguer:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Another great trade Lowire for minor leaguer : You think every fan who thinks the front office has screwed up every move it has made in the last five years is a troll. You are an idiot fool. Name five GOOD moves theo and ben have made in the last five years. We are die hard fans who want the red sox to win and get angered everytime we see someone supposed on our side destroying the sox. Jed should be the starting shortstop for the red sox this year.
    Posted by teddybaseball009[/QUOTE]  There are a number of good moves to offset some of the obvious bad ones, but one could argue that signing free agents like Aceves, Scutaro, Okajima and Beltre (all earned their money), developing and promoting guys like Ellsbury, Bard and Pedroia and Middlebrooks most recently, not signing guys like Victor Martinez and Jason Bay when they were free agents and trading a couple of vastly overrated prospects to the pathetic Padres in exchange for one of that franchise's all-time greatest position players.  Rizzo lasted a year before they had seen enough and dealt him to the Cubs.  I have not seen the immortal Casey Kelly on the mound or at the bat yet.  Any fan who "thinks that the front office has screwed up every move in the last five years" is certainly uninformed (see ignorant) and could indeed be something of a troll (see incessant attention seeking whiner).     
     
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    A year ago today Jed Lowrie had a .337/.366/.516/.882 line before finishing the 2011 season at .252/.303/.382/.685:

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.cgi?id=lowrije01&t=b&year=2011
     
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    Big mistake to trade away both Lowrie and Reddick. We also traded away Bowden for Byrd who is proving to be an albatross. Ben Cherington may be a genius at saving money, but he doesn't know squat about ballplayers.
     
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    But he is already on DL for 15 days due to sprained thumb.

    Therefore, he is still continue playing as an often injure proned players.

    Wait in two years, and see how many games he can play.

    Right now Aviles is hitting better than him as well Aviles have played in almost every game this year.  Advantage so far is Aviles.




     
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    I wish Jed the best, and I'll always remember his game-winning RBI vs. the Angels in the '08 ALDS. But the fact is, because of his history of injuries, he had become undependable. I had no problem with the FO dealing him.

     
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    I have no idea why people think that trades can be judged in the first 4 or 5 weeks of the first season.  Melancon has had some success and has nasty stuff and to be honest I think Lowrie needed a change of scenery.

    Hopefully they both do well going forward.
     
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    [QUOTE]Big mistake to trade away both Lowrie and Reddick. We also traded away Bowden for Byrd who is proving to be an albatross. Ben Cherington may be a genius at saving money, but he doesn't know squat about ballplayers.
    Posted by harv53[/QUOTE]

    How can you call Byrd an albatross when the Sox aren't even paying $500K of his salary?

    I was/am a fan of Bowden, but he was DFA'd and could have simply been claimed off waivers while being sent down to the minors.  There was enough interest that the Cubs gave Byrd his money and sent him to Boston in order to get Bowden since all AL teams had higher priority for claiming Bowden than the Cubs did.
     
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    It was a desperate move, by a desperate organization.  This organization must win NOW, the reality is that there is not much coming up from the farm.  The Major League Roster is overloaded with high priced, overpaid vets.  There are a lot of un-tradeable contracts on the roster and some bad contracts not on the Roster.  The Red Sox organization will be paying Manny $1.9 Million per year for the next 14 years.  Hilarious!!

     
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    JB, Bowden has been in  about 5 games, a 2.45 ERA, 8 K's in 7 innings. Sounds pretty good.
    You are right someone else would have picked him up if DFA'd with nothing in return. 
    Byrd missed a fly ball last night but he has been pretty dependable and has 14 hits in 14 games with 6 RBI.
     
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    In Response to Re: Another great trade Lowire for minor leaguer:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Another great trade Lowire for minor leaguer : How can you call Byrd an albatross when the Sox aren't even paying $500K of his salary? I was/am a fan of Bowden, but he was DFA'd and could have simply been claimed off waivers while being sent down to the minors.  There was enough interest that the Cubs gave Byrd his money and sent him to Boston in order to get Bowden since all AL teams had higher priority for claiming Bowden than the Cubs did.
    Posted by JB-3[/QUOTE]

    I was referring to the bird as an omen of bad luck. He is rather shaky in the outfield, and it's not like he is hitting any ropes. One XBH!
    He still is just hitting .173 for the year.
     
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    In Response to Re: Another great trade Lowire for minor leaguer:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Another great trade Lowire for minor leaguer : I was referring to the bird as an omen of bad luck. He is rather shaky in the outfield, and it's not like he is hitting any ropes. One XBH! He still is just hitting .173 for the year.
    Posted by harv53[/QUOTE]

    Bowden for Byrd?....Trash in / trash out.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Another great trade Lowire for minor leaguer : I was referring to the bird as an omen of bad luck. He is rather shaky in the outfield, and it's not like he is hitting any ropes. One XBH! He still is just hitting .173 for the year.
    Posted by harv53[/QUOTE]

    At least put everything in the proper context. Sure Byrd is hitting .173 for the year. But he's batting .255 with Boston and has had some key hits, so who cares what he did with the Cubs. He messed up that fly ball yesterday but to be fair, it happens. The Royals' Gold Glove LF messed up a play too. Byrd is quite good defensively and has made some nice catches since coming over.

    And to top it off -- the only reason he's here is because Ellsbury got hurt. And in the long run, it will strengthen the team because when Ellsbury gets back, I'm betting it's D-Mac who gets released.
     
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    [QUOTE]While its early and Lowire may still get hurt he is putting pretty good #s .321 ba .924 obs and what we get a minor leaguer!!
    Posted by ncsoxfan4life[/QUOTE]

    The story on Lowrie is very simple...he's a very talented hitter (I still think he was the key to a potential Johan Santana deal...I think he would have immediately been their starting SS), but he just can't stay healthy. The Sox rightly figured it was smarter to trade away an unreliable hitter who plays a position they have a few options at for their biggest need (RP).

    Meanwhile, Melancon's early struggles shouldn't have surprised anyone...he clearly had some combination of mechanical/health issues in spring training, and it carried over to the regular season.

    Since going down to AAA, he's allowed only 7 hits in 8.2 innings, with 0 walks, 0 runs, and 15 strikeouts! I think we'll be seeing the good Melancon before to long...
     
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    In Response to Re: Another great trade Lowire for minor leaguer:
    [QUOTE]A year ago today Jed Lowrie had a .337/.366/.516/.882 line before finishing the 2011 season at .252/.303/.382/.685: http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.cgi?id=lowrije01&t=b&year=2011
    Posted by hill55[/QUOTE]
    Good point. Lowrie was always prone to having a scorching hot month or two, then cooling off and/or getting hurt and disappearing. By season's end I predict this trade will look pretty decisively in Boston's favor.
     

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