Another Yankee pitching bust?
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Re: Another Yankee pitching bust?
posted at 3/8/2012 2:10 PM EST
- soxnewmex
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Be nice if he flopped, I'm always pleasantly surprised on the too rare occasions when things don't go yanks way. -
Re: Another Yankee pitching bust?
posted at 3/8/2012 2:20 PM EST
- lowelll
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In Response to Re: Another Yankee pitching bust?:The story of Mark Teixeira’s 2010 and 2011 seasons centers on overall disappointment. His batting average dropped precipitously, and it affected all of his numbers. Unless he brings up his batting average, which will in turn prop up his other numbers, Teixeira will be seen as a disappointment.
Posted by FortMeade
Tex isn't a complete bust. He still has some power. -
Re: Another Yankee pitching bust?
posted at 3/8/2012 2:23 PM EST
- jete02fan
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In Response to Re: Another Yankee pitching bust?:Be nice if he flopped, I'm always pleasantly surprised on the too rare occasions when things don't go yanks way.ah, shadddup......
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Re: Another Yankee pitching bust?
posted at 3/8/2012 2:58 PM EST
- Smileys_Back
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Actually Nova may be latest bust. Check out his line from today. Like Hughes he couldn't get through his outing. Yankees may be in trouble this year. There is no Colon to save them. -
Re: Another Yankee pitching bust?
posted at 3/8/2012 3:12 PM EST
- prknsdnld
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In Response to Re: Another Yankee pitching bust?:Actually Nova may be latest bust. Check out his line from today. Like Hughes he couldn't get through his outing. Yankees may be in trouble this year. There is no Colon to save them.
Posted by Smileys_BackYup, Nova's done, his career is over. First ST appearance is a failure. Trade him for a bag of balls. -
Re: Another Yankee pitching bust?
posted at 3/8/2012 3:34 PM EST
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In Response to Re: Another Yankee pitching bust?:Actually Nova may be latest bust. Check out his line from today. Like Hughes he couldn't get through his outing. Yankees may be in trouble this year. There is no Colon to save them.
Posted by Smileys_Back
You say that every year. You are the Rush Limbaugh of Yankeedom.
OTOH, perhaps you didn't see distinguished Boston Globe columnist Bob Ryan's assessment of this years RS; largely based on their pitching.
I predict they'll finish 3rd, and that's disrespecting Toronto. -
Re: Another Yankee pitching bust?
posted at 3/8/2012 3:35 PM EST
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Re: Another Yankee pitching bust?
posted at 3/8/2012 3:37 PM EST
- nhsteven
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In Response to Re: Another Yankee pitching bust?:In Response to Re: Another Yankee pitching bust? : Odd being the operative word. He does it to provoke a response and bring attention to his cause. I wouldn't have feed into it if I hadn't realized he had deleted his own post to accused me of reporting it, which I didn't. sad really.
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I think that's called a troll, J_BAY. Now, he's talking to himself, for most to see. That's really sad. -
Re: Another Yankee pitching bust?
posted at 3/8/2012 3:44 PM EST
- Thesemenarecowards
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Who knows where this thread has gone but my response to the initial post..... A guy not getting up to full velocity in 2 innings is not news, a guy not getting up to full velocity in 2 innings during his first start of spring training is whatever 100 notches below "not news" is. -
Re: Another Yankee pitching bust?
posted at 3/8/2012 3:45 PM EST
- TBINFL
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In Response to Re: Another Yankee pitching bust?:In Response to Re: Another Yankee pitching bust? : Tex isn't a complete bust. He still has some power.
Posted by lowelllI know it's tough for someone with your limited intelligence, but please try to follow along and stay on topic. If you want to talk about Tex perhaps you should start a thread about him. -
Re: Another Yankee pitching bust?
posted at 3/8/2012 3:48 PM EST
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In Response to Another Yankee pitching bust?:Hi guys! Baseball's back and that means I am too. You can't not keep a good man down. I see that the Yankees latest pitching fenom, Michael Pineda, came to camp overweight and was only hitting 89 mph in his first start. Sounds like the Yankees may have another Kevin Brown, Carl Pavano, AJ Burnett, etc on their hands. Instead of costing them money this time, it cost them a potential future hall of famer in Jesus Monervo. We'll see what happens, but this could be another one of cashman's blunders.
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Welcome back Smiley? Are the inmates from Rikers Island still running the asylum? Are they still throwing rocks at the Moon? One would think that Gov. Cuomo could find some funds in the State budget for a baseball forum for Yankee fans by now. -
Re: Another Yankee pitching bust?
posted at 3/8/2012 3:48 PM EST
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In Response to Re: Another Yankee pitching bust?:In Response to Re: Another Yankee pitching bust? : You say that every year. You are the Rush Limbaugh of Yankeedom. OTOH, perhaps you didn't see distinguished Boston Globe columnist Bob Ryan's assessment of this years RS; largely based on their pitching. I predict they'll finish 3rd, and that's disrespecting Toronto.
Posted by nhsteven
Hey Steve, we're talking about this year, and you'll have to agree that this far the Yankee staff looks week. -
Re: Another Yankee pitching bust?
posted at 3/8/2012 3:48 PM EST
- TBINFL
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In Response to Re: Another Yankee pitching bust?:The story of Mark Teixeira’s 2010 and 2011 seasons centers on overall disappointment. His batting average dropped precipitously, and it affected all of his numbers. Unless he brings up his batting average, which will in turn prop up his other numbers, Teixeira will be seen as a disappointment.
Posted by FortMeadeThat's great pike, but this is not a thread about Tex.Once again you show that reading comprehension is not one of your strong suits. -
Re: Another Yankee pitching bust?
posted at 3/8/2012 3:54 PM EST
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In Response to Re: Another Yankee pitching bust?:In Response to Re: Another Yankee pitching bust? : Hey Steve, we're talking about this year, and you'll have to agree that this far the Yankee staff looks week.this week or last week?....
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Re: Another Yankee pitching bust?
posted at 3/8/2012 3:59 PM EST
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In Response to Re: Another Yankee pitching bust?:In Response to Re: Another Yankee pitching bust? : this week or last week?....
Posted by jete02fan
Haha Jeet, your a funny guy. Every week! -
Re: Another Yankee pitching bust?
posted at 3/8/2012 4:05 PM EST
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Ah, the stale whiff of desperation when absolutely anything a Yankee does that is not 100% perfect--even in the first week of spring training-- breathes some life into a Sox fan. Yanks do set a high bar. And after a 2011 for the ages for the Sox, you want to be in the mix. Not hard to understand. -
Re: Another Yankee pitching bust?
posted at 3/8/2012 4:07 PM EST
- nhsteven
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In Response to Re: Another Yankee pitching bust?:In Response to Re: Another Yankee pitching bust? : Hey Steve, we're talking about this year, and you'll have to agree that this far the Yankee staff looks week.
Posted by Smileys_Back
Every year you're talking about this yr; you also used that excuse last yr; this is more self-contradicting buffoonery; but I guess that adds color here. -
Re: Another Yankee pitching bust?
posted at 3/8/2012 4:11 PM EST
- silversteinsox
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After the storm has passed and the dust has settled I am very happy that we have AGon and they have Teixiera. That Jewish boy with the guitar sure knew his stuff. -
Re: Another Yankee pitching bust?
posted at 3/8/2012 5:06 PM EST
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In Response to Re: Another Yankee pitching bust?:Agreed, but Montero isnt an elite prospect. He's a generational prospect. I think that is unlikely if he can't catch. This has been discussed a lot, but if Montero is a DH...? Some scouts aren't convinced: http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/baseball/red_sox/view/20220303lavarnway_catching_on_sox_prospect_in_better_position/ But Several talent evaluators insist Lavarnway may be just as good a hitter . And although he never has been regarded as highly for his defense, many consider his catching skills to be superior to Montero’s . “ I think it’s a pretty good comparison,” one National League scout said. “ Montero, I know when we talked about him, we thought you continue to pursue catching the same way Toronto once did with (Carlos) Delgado, and at a certain point, maybe he’s Miguel Cabrera at first base. I think Lavarnway has a better chance of staying behind the plate.” Too much variability w pitchers (which is why the top 10 players selected in a given draft are generally hitters). true But I wouldnt trade montero for him. A catcher who can hit third in your lineup? Big question still!!! Posted by Drewski5
Posted by tom-uk[/QUOTE]
Montero is still a very young prospect at only 21 when LaVarnway was 21 he was only in A ball. Give Montero some time.
I didn't like the trade either if Pineda flops Cashman will never be forgiven by a large segment of Yankee fans. -
Re: Another Yankee pitching bust?
posted at 3/8/2012 5:25 PM EST
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In Response to Re: Another Yankee pitching bust?:In Response to Re: Another Yankee pitching bust? : Hey Steve, we're talking about this year, and you'll have to agree that this far the Yankee staff looks week.
Posted by Smileys_Back
But stronger than the Pirates now that AJ us out
Wow - this forum missed you Smiley. -
Re: Another Yankee pitching bust?
posted at 3/8/2012 5:34 PM EST
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In Response to Re: Another Yankee pitching bust?:In Response to Re: Another Yankee pitching bust? : this week or last week?....
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Beni's act purposely includes misspellings just like Babe's act includes faulty logic and a lack of reason. -
Re: Another Yankee pitching bust?
posted at 3/8/2012 5:51 PM EST
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Re: Another Yankee pitching bust?
posted at 3/8/2012 5:53 PM EST
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Posted by tom-uk[/QUOTE] Montero is still a very young prospect at only 21 when LaVarnway was 21 he was only in A ball. Give Montero some time. I didn't like the trade either if Pineda flops Cashman will never be forgiven by a large segment of Yankee fans.
Posted by ThatWasMe[/QUOTE]
TWM
Do you mean his catching needs more time? or is he a Napoli type now?
I brought up the Lava/Montero comp b/c (as many have pointed out) Montero is ranked as an elite prospect unlike Lava. Yet it is easy to find scouts comparing Lava favourably.
I feel it is fair to question if Montero is a "generational" prospect. We can only go on what the scouts have said b/c neither has been seen much by any of us. IMO the scouting is confusing: on one hand Montero is much higher in rankings while on the other hand his catching has been denegrated over the last year. -
Re: Another Yankee pitching bust?
posted at 3/8/2012 6:05 PM EST
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In Response to Re: Another Yankee pitching bust?:Posted by tom-ukMontero is still a very young prospect at only 21 when LaVarnway was 21 he was only in A ball. Give Montero some time . I didn't like the trade either if Pineda flops Cashman will never be forgiven by a large segment of Yankee fans. Posted by ThatWasMe[/QUOTE] TWM Do you mean his catching needs more time? or is he a Napoli type now? I brought up the Lava/Montero comp b/c (as many have pointed out) Montero is ranked as an elite prospect unlike Lava. Yet it is easy to find scouts comparing Lava favourably. I feel it is fair to question if Montero is a "generational" prospect. We can only go on what the scouts have said b/c neither has been seen much by any of us. IMO the scouting is confusing: on one hand Montero is much higher in rankings while on the other hand his catching has been denegrated over the last year.
Posted by tom-uk[/QUOTE]
I don't think the LaVarnway-Montero is a good comparison.
The only point that I would make or was trying to is that I read about the comparisons being made between LaVarnway and Montero which I don't agree with because of their respective ages. LaVarnway is a few years older, they are both good prospects Montero obviously the more advanced while at age 21. Who knows what he will be in 2 years, Ryan Lavarnway's current age.
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Re: Another Yankee pitching bust?
posted at 3/8/2012 6:13 PM EST
- sindarin-erebor
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In Response to Re: Another Yankee pitching bust?:In Response to Re: Another Yankee pitching bust? : That's great pike, but this is not a thread about Tex. Once again you show that reading comprehension is not one of your strong suits.
Posted by TBINFL
Babe vs. Pike.......I love it. It is a rare occasion that two such epic trolls in a race for the most bans and screen names in the history of BDC take each other on.
It is akin to Ali vs. Frazier III