Re: Are You Sure You Don't Want Varitek Back?
posted at 10/3/2011 9:38 PM EDT
Red Sox record with Tek catching in September: 3-6
Miller - 2 starts - 17 earned runs in games (WHERE WAS TEK'S VALUE???)
Lester - 1 start - 9 earned runs in game (WHERE WAS TEK'S VALUE???)
Lackey - 3 starts - 17 earned runs in games (Now Tek knows how Salty feels)
Beckett - 3 starts - 1-2 record w/ 4.24 ERA)
So not only was Tek's hitting non-existent in September, but his alleged influence on the pitchers was non-existent as well (despite being the catcher in 4 starts from our number one and number two pitchers).
Ok, 6 game sample size. Why not disect Salty's 4-13 record in September (that counts his 8 innings in our 14 inning win)?
Besides Jon Lester and Josh Beckett who was a great pitcher before he came to the Sox, which Red Sox starting pitchers have progressed under Jason Varitek's tutelage over the past few years???
I'm not asking if Tek was better than an even more inferior 2nd or 3rd string catcher, but I'm asking how many starting pitchers over the past few years have actually benefitted from pitching to Tek? Certainly not Dice-K. Certainly not Lackey. Certainly not Brad Penny. Certainly not John Smoltz. Certainly not Miller. So who?
Umm, just about everyone, except Miller and Buch (and they have had small sample sizes with V'Tek).
Catcher's don't make bad pitchers great, they just help get the best out of them more often than not.
1) Why bypass Lester? He clearly has done way better with V'Tek.
'11 2.48 to 3.77 (Salty)
'10 1.88 to 3.64 (VMart)
'11 w VTek 6.82 (.760 opp's OPS) in just 33 IP/ w Salty 6.31 (.874 opp's OPS)
'10 w VTek 3.29 (.724) in 41 IP/ w VMart 4.81 (.805) in 122 IP
VTek 5.01/ VMart 9.90
5) Smoltz was 42 coming off an injury in his last MLB season:
VTek 6.54 (31.2)/ Kottaras 10.80 (5)/ VMart 18.90 (3.1)
VTek 2.34 (.580 in 42.1 IP/ Salty 2.82 (.642) in 67 IP
7) Matt Albers
VTek 4.00 (.686) in 36 IP/ Salty 5.53 (.782) in 27.2 IP
career in Boston:
Vtek 3.52 (.695) in 127.2 IP/ Kottaras 6.52 (.839) in 9.2 IP/K.Cash 3.15 (.732) in 20 IP
'10 VTek 5.27 (.669)/ VMart 4.91 (.973)
'09 VTek 2.53 (.357)/ VMart 4.00 (.400)/ Kottaras 6.75 (.524)
'08 VTek 1.30 (.492)/ KCash 8.49 (1.058)
'07 VTek 2.68 (.590) in 57 IP/ Mirabelli 0.00 (.373) in 11 IP
How about Daniel Bard with a much more balanced sample sizes?
'11 VTek 1.44 (31.1 IP)/ Salty 4.54 (39.2 IP)
'10 VTek 0.48 (18.2 IP)/ VMart 2.64 (44.1 IP)
'09 VTek 2.97 (30.1 IP)/ VMart 6.43 (7.0)/ Kottaras 4.15 (8.2)
VTek 1.79 (80.1)
VMart 3.16 (51.1)
Salty 4.54 (41.2)
You can't say Buchholz since he's preferred to pitch to Victor Martinez and Salty (and done quite well). Proof positive: over his last 8 starts in 2011, Salty started every one of Buchholz's starts (the Red Sox went 7-1, and Buchholz gave up 0, 2, 0, 2, 3, 5, 1, & 1 earned run).
Yes, Buch has done very very well with both Salty and VMart. He hasn't pitched much with VTek since 2009.
Proof positive of what? As with any stat, there are always sample sizes that go the other way.
So how come Tek can only succeed with horses like Lester & Beckett? If he's as good as his press clippings, how come he hasn't been able to have a positive impact over any other starting pitcher besides Lester & Beckett in the past few years? In fact, a very easy argument can be made that Beckett has underachieved and not fulfilled his potential as a starting pitcher for the Sox.
He was a bit inconsistent with Florida as well, but he's been amazingly consistent with Beckett.(VTek 3.68 (.670)/ VMart 5.48 (862)/ Salty 6.00 (.924)/Kottaras 10.32 (1.059)/ Cash 6.97 (.947)
Out of the top 15 pitchers this year by IP, 9 did better with VTek, 3 did about even, and 3 did better with Salty (in those 3, VTek caught those guys 30 IP, 14 Ip and 4 IP)
Please check your facts before you go off like this.
It's a pretty easy argument to make that Beckett is going to have to lose his binky and become a professional by pitching to someone other than his buddy (who he wants to keep gainfully employed in this tough economy). Lester will bounce back and have a great year regardless of who's catching his pitches.
More like 9 guys will have to drop their "binky".