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Wow. 80 and out there bringing it! Good for her! Sorry I missed it. I think that's awesome. I did see Barbra come out. How crazy was that? She was also amazing. Really heartfelt moment as well. I don't remember that even being leaked that she was going to show up. Nice when they can surprise like that. 

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The country who sent them there, shouldn't decide it's time to move on and forget about it. It's really disgraceful, and I'm surprised they're even allowed to decide what they're going to include in history, especially such a big part. And it's AMERICAN history. Makes no sense. 

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You can't pretend things didn't happen, that did happen because whoever likes it better that way.

U mean unless it's about the standings

 

 

 

 

anybody else remember when this was a baseball board

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Kim raved about this here. Good pick, Kim.

 

Yes! So happy he won. Great night for a great Sox fan. To not even be nominated in the Best Director category couldn't change how great the film was. He was so emotional, it was a beautiful moment.

 

Thanks for the thread celebrating this, Steven. It was really fun to see. One of my favorite Oscar ceremonies.

 

YW. And I was shocked to see what good form Shirley Bassey was in.

 

 

Have to admit, I didn't see the entire ceremony, and, again, have to admit I don't know who Shirley Bassey is. I could google it, but that would kind of be disingenuous. Contrary to some posters here, I don't make up stories about things I don't know. It would feel weird to me.

 

Maybe if you told me what she was wearing, I might remember. LOL Sad, but true.

 

She sang the iconic Goldfinger Main Theme way back in 1964 (My favorite & arguably the best Bond film, although Skyfall supposed to be good); now pushing 80, she sang it last night ... and unbelievably, sounded about the same, with similar power, vocal quality, & projection. As far as Lincoln is concerned, I guess some of those documentaries about our likely greatest president were wrong; they made him sound like deity.

 

 

Wow. 80 and out there bringing it! Good for her! Sorry I missed it. I think that's awesome. I did see Barbra come out. How crazy was that? She was also amazing. Really heartfelt moment as well. I don't remember that even being leaked that she was going to show up. Nice when they can surprise like that. 

 

 

 

Yes; you may recall the Mike Myer's skit on SNL; she did a surprise visit there too. I have mixed feelings about her. Along with Neil Diamond (His parents had a retail shop a block away from my apartment), Neil Sedaka (lived across the street for awhile), & Carole King, they all grew up close to where I did, the Brill Building bunch.. A stereotype, but supposedly many gay men love her. Considering her political bent, this is softy fodder if I ever saw it.

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FTR, Steven, weren't there people who tried to pretend that the Holocaust didn't happen? I would imagine you weren't as dismissive with that. Just pointing that out. You can't pretend things didn't happen, that did happen because whoever likes it better that way.

 

I believe Ahmadinejad (Iran's President) is a fan of this concept, he apparently even had a Holocaust Denier convention; oh, and supposedly Mel Gibson's father; apparently they have a few things in common.

 

self indulgent thread by the two love birds.

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Disagree; it's a threesome.

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It's funny you bring up Vietnam. My son is in H.S. and they refuse to teach anything about or even go over what occurred. Sorry I know this is a baseball forum but it bugs me.

It should bug you. Education has always been the target of propagandists. Because the feds control nearly all of it, you and your son are getting a realization of just how much propaganda consumes the time of the "re-educators".

The politics of war is separte from members of the armed services who do what they are asked to do. In Vietnam, the best of my generation where those who willingly answered the Nation's call to duty, even though most understood it was being waged on a limited engagement political management basis. The worst of my generation were those who villified those who served in Vietnam, which was most in my geneartion. It did, in fact, provide the inspiration for the blueprint for the communist strategy of running out the clock. Becuase the Left sympathized with the communists and ran the televised media, they used it as a propaganda tool to limit the President and Congress from allowing the military leadership to bring the full force of U.S. military power to the communists. It started in Korea, and Vietnam became the end of the beginning of the use of U.S. military as political police who are not allowed to prosecute a war by employing it's full capabilities.

In Vietnam, the communists were allowed to use the safe havens of Laos and Cambodia and north of the Vietnam DMZ as safe havens to stage guerilla warfare operations of hit and run and return to the safe havens of Laos and Cambodia and North Vietnam . This was because the Left used the propaganda of the U.S. military expanding the war by prosecuting the war against the VPA (Vietnam People's Army) in these safe havens. In reality, the VPA was violating the 1954 Geneva Accord with France, Cambodia and Laos.

Because the United States military power has been perverted by the Left, every conflict must be viewed in the light that this Nation can never use it's full military power and will serve as nothing more than impotent civil police under "limited rules of engagement". As such, the use of the U.S. armed services as international police forces is both incmpetent and disastrous. In regions like Afghanastan, our troops are sitting ducks being slaughtered under limited rules of engagement and a politically motivated troop surge and time clock that was designed to procure political popularity. Since this region is a lawless region of tribes and indiginous factions that dates back thousands of years, the landscape is such that it is completely incompetent to put the U.S. armed forces in there, in large numbers, on a time clock. Because of the rules of engagement, special forces and remote anti-terrorist staging operations is the only competent way to use the U.S. armed forces.

As with Vietnam, the American people are ignorant and delusional with a belief in this communal utopian vision being sold by the Left and implemented by the body politic. While the masses are having wet dreams over Ben Affleck, while the Leftist militant arm and propaganda mass media is completely dormant in the face of the timeclock slaughter in Afghanastan. The reason is that their puppet is in the Whitehouse and controlling fiscal policy.

Anyone seen any big marches or protests or Walter Concrete reports over the losing war in Afghanastan? Any talk of our troops being "baby killers" and "terrorizing peaceful people"? Not a sight nor sound! How about the "War in Iraq"? Are all the troops out? All of them! Nope!

The lesson of Korea and Vietnam is that the American People should denounce the use of U.S. Armed Forces as international police under "limited terms of engagement".  And the way to do it is not in the fashion that Obama's handlers on the Left protested Vietnam, jeering and spitting on our troops as they come and go from Southeast asia; waving People's "Liberation" Front flags and accusing our troops of committing attrocities in the fashion of Genghis Khan. The way to do it is to right your representatives and tell them to demand the President renounce the future date for troop withdrawals, and, instead, immediately begin a clandestine movement and withdrawal of all United States armed forces in Afghanastan, leaving only the small footprint of a small number of mobile special forces trained in clandestine anti-terrorism and counter-terrorism special operations, with remote staging operations in safer sanctuaries scattered around the region that invovles regular troop movements that are outisde the knowlege of the media, moving to differnt points for intelligence and secuirty purposes. 

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Pretty incredible that so many talented people came from the same area. And all singers. Something in the water there?

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Mel Gibson was supposedly raised in upstate, NY. Guess he's a Yankee fan. Just sayin'.

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It's Oscar night. It was a big Oscar night for a HUGE Sox fan. Lose yourself somewhere.

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Kim, i agree, he would have been absolutely deserving, but if anyone even moderately followed the awards season, Ang Lee was going to be a slam dunk winner..

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FTR, Steven, weren't there people who tried to pretend that the Holocaust didn't happen? I would imagine you weren't as dismissive with that. Just pointing that out. You can't pretend things didn't happen, that did happen because whoever likes it better that way.

 

I believe Ahmadinejad (Iran's President) is a fan of this concept, he apparently even had a Holocaust Denier convention; oh, and supposedly Mel Gibson's father; apparently they have a few things in common.

 

 

Mel Gibson was supposedly raised in upstate, NY. Guess he's a Yankee fan. Just sayin'.

 

 

Mel Gibson was born in Peekskill, NY. Downstate as far as I'm concerned.

His family moved to Australia when he was 12.

I have not seen Argo although I have read that the escape was largely fictional.

There was none of the close calls, drama or suspense as portrayed in the film the people were allowed to leave untouched un-noticed by the Iranians.

More involvement by the Canadians who were largely given credit for it at that time which I remember well.

Seeing signs shortly after the escape all over upstate NY erected for Canadian tourists "Thank you Canada".

Such is Hollywood, drama sells the hell with accuracy and history.

Fiction wins Oscars.

 

 

Argo is a damn good movie, I highly recommend it!!!   :)

They had a lot of balls going to the airport, pretending to be a Canadian film crew.  I'm Korean so I would have to pretend to be the Japanese cameraman.  LOL

 

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Argo is a damn good movie, I highly recommend it!!!   :)

They had a lot of balls going to the airport, pretending to be a Canadian film crew.  I'm Korean so I would have to pretend to be the Japanese cameraman.  LOL

 

 

 

Only happened in the movie for drama ic in real life they left the country of iran un-noticed.

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Denzel is a Yankee fan born and raised in New Rochelle.

One of my co-workers grew up with him from the same neighborhood raves about Denzel growing up and what a great family he comes from.

Denzel is also heavily involved with the Wounded Warriors Project.

I read last year he was touring with his family one of the Wounded Warrior hospitals where Vets rehab.

There are fourplex apartment buildings on site to house the families while the vets rehab, Denzel inquired how much each one cost then promptly cut a check for the cost of building two more.

My wife and I watched it Saturday night, it was excellent.  How the heck does the director of a computer generated movie win best Director while Ben gets snubbed?

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Good morning ThatWasMe.   :)

Oh, I didn't know that.  

I would rather leave the country unnoticed than through their airport.   LOL

 

 

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On North Ave. in New Rochelle, there is a Dunkin Donuts (across the street from an animal hospital).  I saw Mariano Rivera a few times.  He goes to that Dunkin Donuts quite often.  

He is a very humble and polite man.  

 

It was a no brainer. Was that good.

Right Kim. Over 54K killed there in what they were at one time calling a police action. Shameful. Lost my brother there and two friends while I was fortunate enough to attend college with a high draftable 315 lottery number. You cannot try to efface what is part of our History. Our kids should know and be proud of the men and women who sacrificed their lives against a dubious enemy.

Agro was a great movie. It does down play the Canadians and make the CIA look great even though they caused this situation. I felt that is super proAmerican and I bet softy hasn't seen it.