At least the St. Francona nonsense will now be over...

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    ...blaming ownership is as pathetic as the half a billion he and his players de facto defrauded ownership.

    Ownership hired the guys who hired these defrauder guys. 

     
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    HF...didnt Curt get tito the job? Why would Francon even say that Curt had such a big mouth that he would say something every month that he would have to take back? or that Pedro, Papi, Mike Lowell were difficult? he said Youk was the snitch!

     

    cmon the guy did a lot of opining for someone who claimed to be a players manager...

    he shouldve taken the high road...like valentine...

     



    I guess you forgot the Valentine had a clause in his contract, he couldn't say anything about the organization for a year after his departure, geo. Nor would I call what he has said about some of the players, the high road.

     

     




     

    obviously tongue in cheeck Jb...but kind of ironic isnt it? The big mouth really hasnt said much but the Saint has a LOT to say about others....



    Probably because Valentine said everything he had to say about the players while the season was actually going on. Oh, and there was his ESPN "leaks" that we could probably add to that.

     
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    in his book he said big mouth Curt offended him every month....i read those same excerpts...why the need to keep on protecting him? this is a tell all book to deflect criticism on his firing/2011 performance...

    do you think he wrote the bok because he DOESNT have an ax to grind?

     

    sour grapes, ego, pointing fingers...

     

    keep it classy St. Francona

     



    I am not a fan of Francona, but the truth is that everyone knows that Schilling is a blowhard. He DOES have a big mouth and he overuses it. Thats not news.

     




    Do you like any players on any of Boston's teams?

     
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    ...blaming ownership is as pathetic as the half a billion he and his players de facto defrauded ownership.

    Ownership hired the guys who hired these defrauder guys. 




    LOL. Touche'.

     
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    I haven't read the book yet. I'm currently reading K2 Life and Death on the World's Most Dangerous Mountain by Ed Viesturs. I like reading books about climbing Everest, K2 and other mountains in the winter when I can sort of understand what kind of cold these incredibly brave maniacs are in. But I will, of course, read it. It will be interesting to see how much of what has already been said has been completely twisted by posters here.

     
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    I haven't read the book yet. I'm currently reading K2 Life and Death on the World's Most Dangerous Mountain by Ed Viesturs. I like reading books about climbing Everest, K2 and other mountains in the winter when I can sort of understand what kind of cold these incredibly brave maniacs are in. But I will, of course, read it. It will be interesting to see how much of what has already been said has been completely twisted by posters here.




    You must have read "Into Thin Air", the story of the 1996 Everest tragedy.

    A pretty good read. It's shows just how nuts some of those mountaineers are.

     
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    Never thought Francona was a saint, but he'll always have my respect and regard for '04 and '07 and for the overall way he carried himself while he was here.

    As for the book, I look forward to reading it when I have some spare time, but until then I'm not going to rush to judgment and bash Francona, the owners, or anyone else based on the few excerpts that have been reported in the media; my guess is that they don't tell the whole story of an almost 400-page book, or of an 8-year period that was the most successful in RS history. I know it's all about September 2011 in some people's minds, and I don't think you can pin what went wrong there on any one group -- players, manager, or owners. Mistakes were made all around, and when the dust settles and everyone has had their say I think history will reflect that.

     
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    Never thought Francona was a saint, but he'll always have my respect and regard for '04 and '07 and for the overall way he carried himself while he was here.

    As for the book, I look forward to reading it when I have some spare time, but until then I'm not going to rush to judgment and bash Francona, the owners, or anyone else based on the few excerpts that have been reported in the media; my guess is that they don't tell the whole story of an almost 400-page book, or of an 8-year period that was the most successful in RS history. I know it's all about September 2011 in some people's minds, and I don't think you can pin what went wrong there on any one group -- players, manager, or owners. Mistakes were made all around, and when the dust settles and everyone has had their say I think history will reflect that.




    Ditto. Well said.

     
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    I just got through reading the book. Litterally.

    Geo,

    you couldnt be further from the truth with your assesment of a book that you havent even read yet. Maybe if you actually took the time to read the book then you might be taken seriously here.

    This obsession with Francona is unhealthy at best.

     

     
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    I just got through reading the book. Litterally.

    Geo,

    you couldnt be further from the truth with your assesment of a book that you havent even read yet. Maybe if you actually took the time to read the book then you might be taken seriously here.

    This obsession with Francona is unhealthy at best.

     




    It doesn't matter if he reads it or not.

    He's made up his mind about Francona and no amount of facts are going to sway him from that opinion.

    If he doesn't rant and rave, he doesn't get the attention he needs.

     
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    he thought the beer and chicken thing was not a big deal. 

    He also thought that getting paid about 10 million for zero playoff wins in 3 years and failure to make the playoffs for the last two of those years was "not a big deal".

    Tito is showing why he should have been fired before he was fired. Selling blooks and blaming ownership is as pathetic as the half a billion he and his players de facto defrauded ownership. 



    The only people defrauded where the fans by the owners. 

     
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    good to see the bootlickers in full shameless force after their naked emporer admits he was more interested in hoarding percoset than disciplining players and keeping them from drinking, eating,gambling, and playing video games....

     

    yea he was great...i miss him...

     
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    good to see the bootlickers in full shameless force after their naked emporer admits he was more interested in hoarding percoset than disciplining players and keeping them from drinking, eating,gambling, and playing video games....

     

    yea he was great...i miss him...



    Good to see you still missing the forest for the trees.

     
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    good to see the bootlickers in full shameless force after their naked emporer admits he was more interested in hoarding percoset than disciplining players and keeping them from drinking, eating,gambling, and playing video games....

     

    yea he was great...i miss him...




    The commander of the Crybaby Cadre has spoken. Make it so #1.

     
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    good to see the bootlickers in full shameless force after their naked emporer admits he was more interested in hoarding percoset than disciplining players and keeping them from drinking, eating,gambling, and playing video games....

     

    yea he was great...i miss him...



    Read the god damn book if you want to spew your vomit.

     
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    good to see the bootlickers in full shameless force after their naked emporer admits he was more interested in hoarding percoset than disciplining players and keeping them from drinking, eating,gambling, and playing video games....

     

    yea he was great...i miss him...

     




    The commander of the Crybaby Cadre has spoken. Make it so #1.

     

     



    Semantics. It is now acceptable for many here to call Georom a crybaby or a whiner. This implies that he is being truthful, sincere, and honest. What if he is role playing, pretending, and baiting you. Hasn't anyone had that thought. If you do then you could call him a troll. That is why they have the definition.

     




    why do you come here if this place is so dreadful??

     
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    good to see the bootlickers in full shameless force after their naked emporer admits he was more interested in hoarding percoset than disciplining players and keeping them from drinking, eating,gambling, and playing video games....

     

    yea he was great...i miss him...

     




    The commander of the Crybaby Cadre has spoken. Make it so #1.

     

     



    Semantics. It is now acceptable for many here to call Georom a crybaby or a whiner. This implies that he is being truthful, sincere, and honest. What if he is role playing, pretending, and baiting you. Hasn't anyone had that thought. If you do then you could call him a troll. That is why they have the definition.

     

     




    why do you come here if this place is so dreadful??

     




    I've asked him the same thing many times with no answer. Not to mention that literally no one here likes him.

     
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    good to see the bootlickers in full shameless force after their naked emporer admits he was more interested in hoarding percoset than disciplining players and keeping them from drinking, eating,gambling, and playing video games....

     

    yea he was great...i miss him...

     




    The commander of the Crybaby Cadre has spoken. Make it so #1.

     

     



    Semantics. It is now acceptable for many here to call Georom a crybaby or a whiner. This implies that he is being truthful, sincere, and honest. What if he is role playing, pretending, and baiting you. Hasn't anyone had that thought. If you do then you could call him a troll. That is why they have the definition.

     



    OK, let's play.

    What IF Georom is role playing? 

    But,

    What if YOU are role playing?

     

     
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    good to see the bootlickers in full shameless force after their naked emporer admits he was more interested in hoarding percoset than disciplining players and keeping them from drinking, eating,gambling, and playing video games....

     

    yea he was great...i miss him...

     




    The commander of the Crybaby Cadre has spoken. Make it so #1.

     

     



    Semantics. It is now acceptable for many here to call Georom a crybaby or a whiner. This implies that he is being truthful, sincere, and honest. What if he is role playing, pretending, and baiting you. Hasn't anyone had that thought. If you do then you could call him a troll. That is why they have the definition.

     




    Of course Georom is role playing.

    No one can be that dense and still be able to figure out how to log onto this site.

     
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    I haven't read the book yet. I'm currently reading K2 Life and Death on the World's Most Dangerous Mountain by Ed Viesturs. I like reading books about climbing Everest, K2 and other mountains in the winter when I can sort of understand what kind of cold these incredibly brave maniacs are in. But I will, of course, read it. It will be interesting to see how much of what has already been said has been completely twisted by posters here.

     




    You must have read "Into Thin Air", the story of the 1996 Everest tragedy.

     

    A pretty good read. It's shows just how nuts some of those mountaineers are.



    I loved Into Thin Air. It's probably the one that got me started. There were books written by other people who were there that I've read as well. I know after reading them that it wasn't the storm that killed those climbers.

    What's interesting is that so many of these types of books have the same people in them even the sherpas who help them. You just see some of the same names in alot of the books. And just looking at some of the photos and reading the stories makes you wonder why/how anyone would do that. I'm completely fascinated by them for some reason.

     
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    good to see the bootlickers in full shameless force after their naked emporer admits he was more interested in hoarding percoset than disciplining players and keeping them from drinking, eating,gambling, and playing video games....

     

    yea he was great...i miss him...




    The "drinking and eating" happens on all teams. My guess is, there were so many players on the DL it was magnified. And all the pitchers have said they don't even play video games and haven't for years. Weren't they the ones that were blamed for that? Get your facts straight, and at least read a book before you post things that you know nothing about.

     
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    good to see the bootlickers in full shameless force after their naked emporer admits he was more interested in hoarding percoset than disciplining players and keeping them from drinking, eating,gambling, and playing video games....

     

    yea he was great...i miss him...

     




    The commander of the Crybaby Cadre has spoken. Make it so #1.

     

     



    Semantics. It is now acceptable for many here to call Georom a crybaby or a whiner. This implies that he is being truthful, sincere, and honest. What if he is role playing, pretending, and baiting you. Hasn't anyone had that thought. If you do then you could call him a troll. That is why they have the definition.

     

     




    why do you come here if this place is so dreadful??

     

     




    I've asked him the same thing many times with no answer. Not to mention that literally no one here likes him.

     




    You like Mikey and Babe. There's really no accounting for taste here.

     
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