Re: Athletes and religion
posted at 3/2/2012 10:23 AM EST
In Response to Re: Athletes and religion
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Athletes and religion : I think it is time to leave this conversation alone. Our differences are great and not to be discussed here. Your beliefs in the Bible & the Church are admirable. I find it all a fanciful fairytale based on some actual happenings. My beliefs are not from bad experiences or what some old Nun tried to teach me. It is based on life as I see it. I do not denounce Jesus of Nazareth as a true person. I fully believe that there is a historical Jesus who said some beautiful things to many people. Peace, love and harmony are wonderful thoughts. But that is where it ends for me. I only denounce the Church as nothing more than a political party. And remember, when I say church, I am not referring to the Catholic Church itself. Although that might be my upbringing, I have no use for any churches of any religions. It is just a bunch of men who are continuing to use superstition to reign over others. I am sorry, but if there truly was a God, then at certain times in the last 12,000 years, he/she would have revealed themselves and done something right for humanity. You know, like slapping Hitler, Stalin, Nero and a few others from committing the attrocities that they did. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk41Gbjljfo
Posted by jesseyeric[/QUOTE]
I watched your video, very sad.
I agree we should move on but I would like to say one last thing. All the horrible things described in the video are due to sin. Man has free will and God will not take that away from him.
There is evil in this world no doubt, for those who don't believe in the devil just look around. We are all given the right to choose between good and evil. No one not even God forces our hand.
There is enough food in this world to feed everyone, it is man's greed that prevents that from happening, not God's.
Those who don't believe in heaven or hell think this life is all there is so I can understand why they are disappointed in life here.
Those of us who believe in God, the bible, their faith etc. believe this world is a journey to eternal life.
We believe that we are in exile because of the sins of Adam and Eve. This world is not meant to be paradise because this world is run by sinners.
We believe that due to original sin we and the whole world are disordered. We don't like suffering, but we understand that the 80 short years we spend in this vale of tears is nothing compared to eternal life.
Those of us who believe help the poor, sick, lonely as Christ has asked us because we know when we do it to the least of our brothers we do it for Him.
God is with us in His people and in the Eucharist. Think of Mother Theresa, Fr. Groeshel and the many others who help the poor. Think of all the saints through out the ages who have sacrificed to help others. We are His hands in this world, we who believe are called to care for His people.
If you study WWll as I have you will understand that the reason Hitler gained so much power was because of the sins of the masses.
There was a deep hatred of the jews in europe. He played on that hatred to incite the masses to join him in his evil atrocities. The reason he had so much power is because those who had evil in their hearts allowed it to happen.
God was there in His people. So many sacrificed their lives to help. Maxamilian Kolbe was one of them. He was a catholic priest who offered his life in the death camps to save another.
There is suffering in this world no doubt. My father was an alcoholic, I wasn't wanted by my mother and I have been in varying degrees of pain since I was 13 and it's only getting worse. I have suffered physical, emotional and yes sexual abuse as a child.
If I were to believe this is it, that there was no God I would be singing along with your video! But God has surely intervened in my life in ways too sublime and too lengthy to go into here.
Let us resume our friendship which I value. I can't wait for the season to start so we can give each other a hard time. Sox rule!