Bailey- damaged goods?
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Bailey- damaged goods?
posted at 4/3/2012 7:52 PM EDT
I wonder if good ole BC was had -
Re: Bailey- damaged goods?
posted at 4/3/2012 7:53 PM EDT
BC = Brian Cashman. He was had on Pineda-agreed. -
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posted at 4/3/2012 8:25 PM EDT
He is a always hurt and that is why Oakland did not want to pay him big money. Young Ben jumped at this guy as well as another guy built like Mike Cameron (Sweeny) who cannot hit. -
Re: Bailey- damaged goods?
posted at 4/3/2012 8:35 PM EDT
In Response to Bailey- damaged goods?:I wonder if good ole BC was had
Posted by jaderMaybe they can ask for additional compensation after the fact.Kinda like they are trying to do with ineptstein now.Talk about being clueless.What's next, they ask the Yankees for additional compensation on the Babe Ruth trade?!!!! -
Re: Bailey- damaged goods?
posted at 4/3/2012 8:37 PM EDT
This whole organization is damaged goods. Winning a championship in their second year of ownership led to an entitled, smarter-than-you management who is unaccountable and phony.
Titanic IS airing again...no, not Speilberg's version, you can watch it in real life 3D over at Fenway. -
Re: Bailey- damaged goods?
posted at 4/3/2012 8:46 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Bailey- damaged goods?:This whole organization is damaged goods. Winning a championship in their second year of ownership led to an entitled, smarter-than-you management who is unaccountable and phony. Titanic IS airing again...no, not Speilberg's version, you can watch it in real life 3D over at Fenway.
Posted by ma6dragon9
I think that you are over-reacting. Bailey is injured and needs surgery. That happens in sports all of the time. We have a very good team and will do just fine this year. This is no differant than Pineda going on the DL for the Yankees. At the end of the season we will be in the playoffs. -
Re: Bailey- damaged goods?
posted at 4/3/2012 8:54 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Bailey- damaged goods?:In Response to Re: Bailey- damaged goods? : I think that you are over-reacting. Bailey is injured and needs surgery. That happens in sports all of the time. We have a very good team and will do just fine this year. This is no differant than Pineda going on the DL for the Yankees. At the end of the season we will be in the playoffs.
Posted by jrh1194Actually, it's completely different.First off, the Yanks had 6 starters for 5 spots with Pettitte on the horizon.And Pineda has bursitis, not going in for surgery.The red flops now have their closer going in for surgery and missing an undetermined amount of time, thus taking out a major piece of an already questionable bullpen.To claim that it's the same is purely ludicrous. -
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Re: Bailey- damaged goods?
posted at 4/3/2012 9:06 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Bailey- damaged goods?:In Response to Re: Bailey- damaged goods? : Actually, it's completely different. First off, the Yanks had 6 starters for 5 spots with Pettitte on the horizon. And Pineda has bursitis, not going in for surgery. The red flops now have their closer going in for surgery and missing an undetermined amount of time, thus taking out a major piece of an already questionable bullpen. To claim that it's the same is purely ludicrous.
Posted by TBINFL
The Sox have Aceves and Melancon to close until Bailey comes back. And you are wrong...Pineda has tendinitis not bursitis. It's "purely ludicrous" to make a statement and not have the correct facts. -
Re: Bailey- damaged goods?
posted at 4/3/2012 9:06 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Bailey- damaged goods?:Are the Yankee fans in their forums blaming Cashman for all of their random injuries? These things happen all the time on other teams. I've been away from the forum for a few years but the stupidity is still here.
Posted by Firefligh2008I agree. You can't blame a GM for random injuries.But I do have to say, the red flops' medical staff do not exactly enjoy a stellar reputation lately. -
Re: Bailey- damaged goods?
posted at 4/3/2012 9:51 PM EDT
I don't like the lack of definition on exactly when and how this injury occured. It's one thing to have a sore arm, need some rest for a couple of weeks. This guy's out until the All Star break, if he's even back by then. Couple this with the busted down compensation we received for Epstein, and one wonders if there is any intelligence in that front office at all. We're rapidly becomming the laughing stock of Baseball, and a team other's feel comfortable taking advantage of. Pathetic. And I hope they got a second opinion of Bailey's need for surgery. One thing I know for sure is surgeons always want to cut-always. I'd like to hear a coherant diagnosis, instead of all this foolish cloak and dagger secrecy crap. -
Re: Bailey- damaged goods?
posted at 4/3/2012 9:59 PM EDT
I agree one hundred percent . In fact, my doctor told me that I needed prostate surgery last year and I told him he was full of sh-it. I took a vitamin supplement from the bark of a tree in Africa and I was fine. You really can't trust those bas-tards. All they want is another handout from Obamacare. Bill-806 is right. Everyone makes little of the old fa-rt but he really knows what he is talking about. Another guy that makes sense on this forum is Alibiike. We are lucky to have them. I am still undecided on Hank but he seems like a sincere dude. -
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posted at 4/3/2012 10:01 PM EDT
ROFL! -
Re: Bailey- damaged goods?
posted at 4/3/2012 10:05 PM EDT
No just an often injured pitcher and the first mistake made by Ben Cherrington. The second one was Carpenter from the Cubs without checking medical records and trusting Theo. Young Ben is getting an education. The third will be when when of our starters goes down because there is not adequate depth. -
Re: Bailey- damaged goods?
posted at 4/3/2012 11:15 PM EDT
Apparently the FO checked the medical records very thoroughly of both Bailey and Carpenter before they came here. If anyone has objective evidence to the contrary then please feel free to post it and enlighten us. Opinions and speculation are not worth a pizzhole in a snowbank in January. The fact is that we as fans don't know. -
Re: Bailey- damaged goods?
posted at 4/3/2012 11:24 PM EDT
Would you care to share with us anything suggesting the Sox "checked the medical records very thoroughly of both Bailey and Carpenter"? The fact is Carpenter had a big old bone fragment in his elbow that would have showed up on any simple x-ray. Having records available to you, and actually checking said records "thoroughly", are two entirely separate matters. Nope,the Red Sox were caught napping again-and you'll be hearing alot more about this all soon.
In Response to Re: Bailey- damaged goods?:Apparently the FO checked the medical records very thoroughly of both Bailey and Carpenter before they came here. If anyone has objective evidence to the contrary then please feel free to post it and enlighten us. Opinions and speculation are not worth a pizzhole in a snowbank in January. The fact is that we as fans don't know.
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Re: Bailey- damaged goods?
posted at 4/3/2012 11:27 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Bailey- damaged goods?:I agree one hundred percent . In fact, my doctor told me that I needed prostate surgery last year and I told him he was full of sh-it. I took a vitamin supplement from the bark of a tree in Africa and I was fine. You really can't trust those bas-tards. All they want is another handout from Obamacare. Bill-806 is right. Everyone makes little of the old fa-rt but he really knows what he is talking about. Another guy that makes sense on this forum is Alibiike. We are lucky to have them. I am still undecided on Hank but he seems like a sincere dude.
Posted by 6k42lt913cNice feeble attempt to convince us you're right wing as a distraction when we know you aren't. Hence Enchilada's response. -
Re: Bailey- damaged goods?
posted at 4/4/2012 2:21 AM EDT
Did the Red Sox acquire their closer in Mark Melancon by trading damaged goods in Jed Lowrie (who may open the season the DL)?
Andrew Bailey and Lowrie share concerning injury histories. -
Re: Bailey- damaged goods?
posted at 4/4/2012 8:28 AM EDT
Yes, Bailey is damaged goods. His history of injuries, coupled with this recent DL stint until July supports that. Even when he comes back, there is no guarantee that he is effective or that he stays healthy. Hopefully Melancon and Aceves can fill the closer role. We are off to another great start here guys, Bailey (DL), Crawford (Rehabbing), Beckett (In TX getting checked out), AND we have not even seen opening day! Third place finish is slowly fading away. -
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posted at 4/4/2012 8:31 AM EDT
"Bailey likely injured his thumb during a 6-5 loss to the Pirates in an exhibition game March 21 at Bradenton, Fla."“He was covering first and collided with Alex Pressley and fell,’’ Cherington said. “At the time, he didn’t think anything of it, but he started to experience some soreness shortly after that and then went back and looked back at the video and he definitely landed on the thumb."
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Re: Bailey- damaged goods?
posted at 4/4/2012 8:53 AM EDT
In Response to Re: Bailey- damaged goods?:In Response to Re: Bailey- damaged goods? : Actually, it's completely different. First off, the Yanks had 6 starters for 5 spots with Pettitte on the horizon. And Pineda has bursitis, not going in for surgery. The red flops now have their closer going in for surgery and missing an undetermined amount of time, thus taking out a major piece of an already questionable bullpen. To claim that it's the same is purely ludicrous.
Posted by TBINFL
This is not a big deal. Any sox fan who was counting on Bailey to be the redsox savior is a bit crazy. There's plenty of guys on the team who can handle the closer job well enough. It would be nice to have a lights out closer, but that's not going to make or break this team. -
Re: Bailey- damaged goods?
posted at 4/4/2012 9:23 AM EDT
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Re: Bailey- damaged goods?
posted at 4/4/2012 9:30 AM EDT
In Response to Re: Bailey- damaged goods?:Apparently the FO checked the medical records very thoroughly of both Bailey and Carpenter before they came here. If anyone has objective evidence to the contrary then please feel free to post it and enlighten us. Opinions and speculation are not worth a pizzhole in a snowbank in January. The fact is that we as fans don't know.
Posted by 6k42lt913c
Injuries happen despite the best doctors and no team is immune from injuries. Sometimes you can actually see when an injury occurs (wrong sport, but hello Joe Theisman), but other times injuries seem to come out of thin air. I agree that we as fans don't know about this stuff, so any speculation on our parts isn't doing anyone any good. -
Re: Bailey- damaged goods?
posted at 4/4/2012 9:34 AM EDT
Pinning hopes on Melencon. It's just - WOW.
When Boston picked him up, I remember thinking "NY had him for a season or two, right??"
He was probably better off in Lesser NL Waste. THe AL Beast is going to feast on him again.
Good luck. -
Re: Bailey- damaged goods?
posted at 4/4/2012 9:43 AM EDT
In Response to Re: Bailey- damaged goods?:I agree one hundred percent . In fact, my doctor told me that I needed prostate surgery last year and I told him he was full of sh-it. I took a vitamin supplement from the bark of a tree in Africa and I was fine. You really can't trust those bas-tards. All they want is another handout from Obamacare. Bill-806 is right. Everyone makes little of the old fa-rt but he really knows what he is talking about. Another guy that makes sense on this forum is Alibiike. We are lucky to have them. I am still undecided on Hank but he seems like a sincere dude.Not that I am PARANOID, but are you pulling my leg !!!!!!
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