Ban on maple bats

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    Ban on maple bats

    Was there any discussion at this years meeting of baseball exec's about the danger of maple bats? How long will it be before thousands of teens and pre-teens get to witness live, a pitcher or infielder gushing blood onto the field after being struck in the throat by one of these jagged weapons?

     
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    thousand of teens and pre teens will witness z/

    how about  thousands or tens of thousands of fans of all ages ?
     
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    maple bats, new helmets all part of the new collective bargaining agreement http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/22/dwi-policy-maple-bats-new-helmets-all-part-of-the-new-collective-bargaining-agreement/ maple bats: The parties agreed that no new players will be permitted to use a low density maple bat during the term of the agreement. So, if you use one now, you’re cool. You’ve been grandfathered into things and you can impale someone completely within your rights as a union member. New people, nope. Finally, head safety: By 2013, all Major League players will wear a new batting helmet developed by Rawlings that protects against pitches thrown at 100 miles per hour. The new version of the helmet is significantly less “bulky” than prior versions of the more protective helmet.
    Posted by pinstripezac


    The maple bats are like missiles and baseball is lucky that a pitcher or infielders  haven't been seriously hurt.      Time to go back to the nothern white ash bats.                
     
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    Taping the handle of these bats would cut down tremendously on the bats exploding and launching bat shrapnel. Perhaps if there was a rule that all maple bats must be taped to be permitted, that would help.
     
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    Was there any discussion at this years meeting of baseball exec's about the danger of maple bats? How long will it be before thousands of teens and pre-teens get to witness live, a pitcher or infielder gushing blood onto the field after being struck in the throat by one of these jagged weapons?
    Posted by bobby226


    Most youth baseball leagues already have banned the use of wooden bats to include Maple...aside from a select few wooden bat tournaments, there's no competitve reason to use one during league play through HS...
     
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    Besides , cutting down all those trees would rob us of maple syrup for our waffles.

    Who could live without the 3 major food groups?

    Fruit & Vegetables
    Pasta
    Waffles with syrup.
     
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    In Response to Re: Ban on maple bats : there's no competitve reason to use one during league play through HS ... I don't know BT I think a case can be made   that pitchers don't pitch inside as much  anymore because not only don't aluminum bats break they  often help the little fister get over the infielders head and if the pitchers don't pitch inside that much it makes it more dangerous for the batters because they don't learn how to get out of they way ok BT maybe I'm reaching here but I hate those dam aluminum bats ;-)
    Posted by pinstripezac


    Zac,

    I'm not a huge fan of the metal bats either, and would love to see both HS and College ban them and use wood or the new composite wood bats. Which are less brittle then regular ash or maple bats, Becasue they're made with a rod inside with the buissness end made of wood and the grip made of synthetic materials...making tougher to saw guys off and thus more durable...
     
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    The issue was with players wanting longer bats that had a big barrel and a thin handle and were light in weight.These break easily and send wood ever where.

    New players can not use low density maple bats. They must use the denser maple bats or KB1 as they are called by the Canadian MFG, Ryan Braun uses it as do 100 other MLB players. Current players have a choice low or high density.

    They also changed the placement of the mfg's name on the bats. It appears that by putting the name in one area according to the grain it made a difference in bat breakage on the low density bats.

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/7275006/canadian-manufacturer-board-mlb-low-density-maple-bat-ban
    "Basically, what we're talking about is the weight of the wood, the volume of the wood that is used for a particular model," she said. "Certain players love to have what they call a big-barrel bat, lots of meat on the barrel, but then very lightweight wood.

    "So the problem, of course, is when you create a larger barrel and you still want to have the bat very light, the wood density has to give," Anderson said. "This is something though that most manufacturers will recognize as not being the strongest product."

    Anderson said her company has been reporting wood density information to MLB on a regular basis. She said they serve about 100 major leaguers, including NL MVP Ryan Braun of the Milwaukee Brewers, who uses a longer, higher-density KB1 bat.

    The ban would only apply to new major leaguers. Other players would be grandfathered and could continue using low-density bats if desired.

     
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    The difference between bats is not about brittlenes. It is about weight and density.
    Maple is harder than ash in the less dense form or more dense form. However weight is more on the more dense maple.
    So if a player is using less dense bat that is 36 inches and weighs 32 oz to go to the denser bat he will have to give up inches to maintain the weight.

    Composite bats today are still paty aluminumEven though composite baseball bats have a different design compared to standard aluminum bats, they still must meet the same specifications as the standard aluminum baseball bat. To be suitable for high school and collegiate play, they must meet weight, dimension, and rebound rate requirements. The composite bat must have a -3 drop, which means that the bat must weigh 3 ounces less than the length (i.e. 33in 30oz). Also, the baseball bat must have a barrel that is 2 5/8” in diameter (except Little League Division's Majors and below use a 2 1/4" diameter bat). Finally, composite bats for high school and college play were required to meet a specific BESR (Ball Exit Speed Ratio) through 2010. Composite bats will be required to meet BBCOR (Bat-Ball Coefficient of Restitution) standards for 2011 college[4] and high school play.[5][6] Little League International has not officially endorsed BBCOR standards as of this date but currently has in place a similar moratorium on composite bats.


    They also can not be used in lower temperatures.

    However if you can make a composite bat (of total wood) with the same hardness as maple and keep the length and weight and it won't break as easily you IMO have a winner
     
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    In Response to Re: Ban on maple bats : Zac, I'm not a huge fan of the metal bats either, and would love to see both HS and College ban them and use wood or the new composite wood bats. Which are less brittle then regular ash or maple bats, Becasue they're made with a rod insidewith the buissness end made of wood and the grip made of synthetic materials...making tougher to saw guys off and thus more durable...
    Posted by Beantowne


    How did they get A Rod inside of a bat? 

    Sorry, Beantowne.  Couldn't resist. 
     
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    Interesting information.

    Personally, I think that going back to ash is the thing to do.  Maple is just TOO dangerous.  It IS a miracle that someone hasn't been seriously injured.

    If maple bats as so much of an advantage to hitters, why are there no more 500ft. home runs?  Growing up, I remember Mantle, Killebrew and others hitting these humongous shots.  Today, if someone hits a 430ft. homer, it's a big deal.  I just don't understand why.

    I've read somewhere that the ball leaves the aluminum bat at a much greater velosity than wood.  If true, the lifespan of a third baseman would be seriously shortened.
     
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