Re: Bard, what the phuc are u doing????;;
posted at 5/9/2012 3:38 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Bard, what the phuc are u doing????;;
[QUOTE]Whether it was mental or physical fatigue he should have been pulled. He has struggled with poor finishes this year. The first batter should have been the last or not faced at all. vs TB 7th inning 2 outs and then BB, single, BB, BB then pulled vs Oak 6th inning: single, out, double, double, HBP, double then pulled vs Tor 6th inning: BB, single then pulled vs CHW 7th inning clean, then pulled I have actually been surprised they have left Bard in as long as they have. I thought they'd break him in slowly, especially since they know he will not give them 180+ IP no matter how well he does as a starter. I expected 4 IP, then 5, 5, 5, 6, 6 6, then maybe 7. Not having Aceves in long relief hurts that idea, but messing Bard up should be avoided at all costs. The kid can pitch.
Posted by moonslav59[/QUOTE]
Moon, it appears that, given the state of the rotation ( see Abraham ), Valentine and McClure don't think the club can afford to break Bard in slowly. The team is off to a rocky start. The pen is piling up innings. Even if they had "planned" to coax him along, the exigencies of the moment often override things like pitching theory, innings, etc. IMO, last night was one of those moments. Bard is a big strong kid who still had great stuff even as he was all over the place in the 8th. But he lost it upstairs. He didn't concentrate on making sure he didn't walk the p and j batter who led off the inning and had already gone 0 for 3.
( The ump even gave him an extra strike. ) That should not happen. Even if a pitcher is tired. He makes a small adjustment. Just throw strikes. McClure and Valentine must have checked to make sure that Bard still felt good to go, and they might even have checked with Stoppach.
Some posters think these pitchers should be pulled ( Buchholz against Oakland, Bard last night ) when they are ahead in order to nurture their confidence. OTOH, confidence comes from pitching effectively over longer stretches. Up until the meltdown, Bard looked as though he felt totally in control. That's how it looked to Valentine and McClure. I also think that Valentine and McClure are trying to push pitchers to go beyond 6.1 and 7 if they are not at, say, 110 pitches. I may be "old school" on this issue, but I like the idea, even early in the season.
Maybe Bard learned something. Even if a little tired, he can still trust his stuff to retire batters if he doesn't overthrow but concentrates on the zone, especially against weaker hitters.
The people close to the situation last night made a decision on the best of their knowledge. Bard crossed them up.
Let's see how he does next time, and the time after that, and....