Bill James Projects the 2013 Red Sox

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    As I stated on my "positive thread", the Sox offense has a legitimate chance of improving their OPS at every position taken one by one.

    It's the rotation that scares me, and I think James was being a bit generous with our starters.

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    We have a very difficult rotation to predict.

    Two guys with ace potential, coming off of bad years.

    A very good pitcher switching leagues, and 36.

    A #2 type coming off of surgery and not at a young age.

    A sophomore with good, but uneven stats.

    With not a lot of variables going south, we could be bottom-5, and with just a handful of variables going north, we could be top-5 in SP.  Just for fun

    • Lester 2011  3.47
    • Buchholz 2011  3.48
    • Dempster 2012 + 0.33 for league  3.71
    • Lackey last healthy season 4.40
    • Doubront 2012 FIP  4.37

    It is unlikely for all five events to occur, but these aren't once in a lifetime events either.

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    if you look at the names of that 5...that's a pretty damn good 5...on paper...i'm not like everybody who see's doom all the time...and i think that 5 will be alright.

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    That was my thought too a couple weeks back. I think Lackey just might surprise us, maybe.....and its logical to look for Dubrount to develop more.

     
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    That was my thought too a couple weeks back. I think Lackey just might surprise us, maybe.....and its logical to look for Dubrount to develop more.\

     

    But, it's not logiccal to project a coin to flipped heads 4 or 5 times out of 5.

     
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    The Sox rotation certainly has the potential to be near top 5, if everything goes right, but seriously, would any of you really rather have our rotation over these?

    Rays: Price, Hellickson, Moore, Niemann, Cobb

    Yanks: Sabathia, Kuroda, Pettitte, Hughes, Nova/Phelps

    Jays: Dickey, Johnson, Buehrle, Romero, Morrow/Happ

    (That's just in our own division)

    Now, some other selected AL teams:

    Tigers: Verlander, Fister, A Sanchez, Scherzer, Porcello/Smyly

    A's: Anderson, Milone, Parker, Griffin, Straily/Colon

    Angels: Weaver, Wilson, Vargas, Hanson, Blanton

    CWS: Sale, Peavy, Floyd, Quintana, Santiago

    Royals: Shields, E Santana, Guthrie, W Davis, B Chen

    Rangers: Harrison, Darvish, Holland, Ogando, Lewis/Perez

    Yes, one could argue we may be better than 1 or 2 on this list, but it is clear to me that, on paper, we might be lucky to be ranked 8th or 9th best in the AL alone. (Maybe 7th)

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    Based on this list (thank you moonslav59), I like Oakland and Toronto. 

    Oakland's rookie pitching staff handled pressure very well despite losing McCarthy and Anderson to injuries and being in a tight race with the Angels and Rangers. 

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    There are other AL teams with starters about as good as ours that I didn't list.

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    Im not overly impressed with either the NYY or Jays rotations. Lots of ? ...The A's, Rays and Tigers look great though...

     
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    The Sox rotation certainly has the potential to be near top 5, if everything goes right, but seriously, would any of you really rather have our rotation over these?

    Rays: Price, Hellickson, Moore, Niemann, Cobb

    Yanks: Sabathia, Kuroda, Pettitte, Hughes, Nova/Phelps

    Jays: Dickey, Johnson, Buehrle, Romero, Morrow/Happ

    (That's just in our own division)

    Now, some other selected AL teams:

    Tigers: Verlander, Fister, A Sanchez, Scherzer, Porcello/Smyly

    A's: Anderson, Milone, Parker, Griffin, Straily/Colon

    Angels: Weaver, Wilson, Vargas, Hanson, Blanton

    CWS: Sale, Peavy, Floyd, Quintana, Santiago

    Royals: Shields, E Santana, Guthrie, W Davis, B Chen

    Rangers: Harrison, Darvish, Holland, Ogando, Lewis/Perez

    Yes, one could argue we may be better than 1 or 2 on this list, but it is clear to me that, on paper, we might be lucky to be ranked 8th or 9th best in the AL alone. (Maybe 7th)

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    Based on this list (thank you moonslav59), I like Oakland and Toronto. 

    Oakland's rookie pitching staff handled pressure very well despite losing McCarthy and Anderson to injuries and being in a tight race with the Angels and Rangers. 

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    There are other AL teams with starters about as good as ours that I didn't list.

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    Im not overly impressed with either the NYY or Jays rotations. Lots of ? ...The A's, Rays and Tigers look great though...

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    You think the Sox have a top 6 AL rotation on paper?

     
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    The Sox rotation certainly has the potential to be near top 5, if everything goes right, but seriously, would any of you really rather have our rotation over these?

    Rays: Price, Hellickson, Moore, Niemann, Cobb

    Yanks: Sabathia, Kuroda, Pettitte, Hughes, Nova/Phelps

    Jays: Dickey, Johnson, Buehrle, Romero, Morrow/Happ

    (That's just in our own division)

    Now, some other selected AL teams:

    Tigers: Verlander, Fister, A Sanchez, Scherzer, Porcello/Smyly

    A's: Anderson, Milone, Parker, Griffin, Straily/Colon

    Angels: Weaver, Wilson, Vargas, Hanson, Blanton

    CWS: Sale, Peavy, Floyd, Quintana, Santiago

    Royals: Shields, E Santana, Guthrie, W Davis, B Chen

    Rangers: Harrison, Darvish, Holland, Ogando, Lewis/Perez

    Yes, one could argue we may be better than 1 or 2 on this list, but it is clear to me that, on paper, we might be lucky to be ranked 8th or 9th best in the AL alone. (Maybe 7th)

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    Based on this list (thank you moonslav59), I like Oakland and Toronto. 

    Oakland's rookie pitching staff handled pressure very well despite losing McCarthy and Anderson to injuries and being in a tight race with the Angels and Rangers. 

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    There are other AL teams with starters about as good as ours that I didn't list.

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    Im not overly impressed with either the NYY or Jays rotations. Lots of ? ...The A's, Rays and Tigers look great though...

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    You think the Sox have a top 6 AL rotation on paper?

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    As far as our own division...

    NYY - We have decent stats against Sabathia and now we have more good RHH that can improve even more. Kuroda is a good pitcher when hes on, as we saw this year. Hes still a year older at 40, same with Pettite. The other 2 are a crapshoot IMO.

    Toronto - We do well against Buehrle and JJ is still a ? as well as Morrow. IF JJ and BM are on, they are tough. Romero? Dickey could be an issue. Just as much potential and ?'s like Boston and NY.

    Tampa's Starting 5 is just good.

    Baltimore? Meh.

     
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    Bill James is an Idiot !! If you predict enough things something is bound to be right. We can predict all day long that this will happen or that will happen and we could all could be just like Jesse James....lol 

     
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    http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/_/id/8771026/bill-james-projects-bright-boston-red-sox-future

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    Bill James is an Idiot !! If you predict enough things something is bound to be right. We can predict all day long that this will happen or that will happen and we could all could be just like Jesse James....lol 

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    James probably makes close to a million a year.  If u can do the analytical work, you should do so.

     
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    http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/_/id/8771026/bill-james-projects-bright-boston-red-sox-future

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    Bill James is an Idiot !! If you predict enough things something is bound to be right. We can predict all day long that this will happen or that will happen and we could all could be just like Jesse James....lol 

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    James probably makes close to a million a year.  If u can do the analytical work, you should do so.

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    Million a year ? Wow !  Wish i could make that . But why  does amount of money make you better then the next guy?  I bet guesser Bill can't do my little ole 75000 dollar job. But i guess your right so does Bill.

     

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