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    Bobby V?

    posted at 11/19/2011 11:30 AM EST

    No way the Red Sox hire Valentine, simply because he hasn't won anything while being a manager. Either hire a guy with no experience but who knows the market[Sveum's gone, maybe Lovullo]; or a well-known excellent manager, who has won a championship or two.
     Or hire me, since I predicted the September slide, but nobody listened to my solutions. They'd have to if I was the manager.
     

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    Re: Bobby V?

    posted at 11/19/2011 11:34 AM EST

    In Response to Bobby V?:
    No way the Red Sox hire Valentine, simply because he hasn't won anything while being a manager. Either hire a guy with no experience but who knows the market[Sveum's gone, maybe Lovullo]; or a well-known excellent manager, who has won a championship or two.  Or hire me, since I predicted the September slide, but nobody listened to my solutions. They'd have to if I was the manager.
    Posted by spider-man
      OK....LOOKING BACK, YOU HAVE MY VOTE !!!!
     

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    Re: Bobby V?

    posted at 11/19/2011 12:24 PM EST

    In Response to Bobby V?:
    No way the Red Sox hire Valentine, simply because he hasn't won anything while being a manager. Either hire a guy with no experience but who knows the market[Sveum's gone, maybe Lovullo]; or a well-known excellent manager, who has won a championship or two.  Or hire me, since I predicted the September slide, but nobody listened to my solutions. They'd have to if I was the manager.
    Posted by spider-man


    The only well-known (maybe not excellent) manager who has won a championship or two just got fired by the Sox.
     

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    Re: Bobby V?

    posted at 11/19/2011 1:01 PM EST

    What did Francona win before inheriting a team one dumb move from the World Series?
     

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    Re: Bobby V?

    posted at 11/19/2011 1:04 PM EST

    In Response to Bobby V?:
    No way the Red Sox hire Valentine, simply because he hasn't won anything while being a manager. Either hire a guy with no experience but who knows the market[Sveum's gone, maybe Lovullo]; or a well-known excellent manager, who has won a championship or two.  Or hire me, since I predicted the September slide, but nobody listened to my solutions. They'd have to if I was the manager.
    Posted by spider-man


    Who are they that would have to listen to you? Hope you are talking about the right way to clean the toilets and wash the jock straps...Think i might have to agree with you.
     

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    Re: Bobby V?

    posted at 11/19/2011 2:44 PM EST

    In Response to Re: Bobby V?:
    In Response to Bobby V? : The only well-known (maybe not excellent) manager who has won a championship or two just got fired by the Sox.
    Posted by traven


    yep, and the other just won a WS then called it a career (LaRussa), and word is the sox at least kicked his tires too even after he retired, but obviously gave it up quickly when realizing he couldnt be lured outta retirement (although I wouldnt be totally shocked to see him get the itch and pop back up in a year or 2). 

    bobby v could be a solid short term fix, then maybe at some point his departure might conveniently align with a joe maddon and/or john farrell ultimately becoming available. this team still has the talent to be right in the thick of things, i personally would prefer valentine's vast experience and intense approach to a newb learning on the fly (although I think Alomar with an experienced old school bench coach could possibly work out well). at least with this particular team right now. just my opinion, but really, who knows. 

    this situation and these players present Valentine with a rather unique opportunity, they give him a legitimate shot at finally getting over the hump and adding a WS title to his resume. in the short term (over say, the next 3 seasons) it could work out well and be a win/win...but I do agree with the common notion that eventually, at some point, it will more than likely turn sour. maybe by then it wont matter as much if they have added another championship.
     

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    Re: Bobby V?

    posted at 11/19/2011 6:59 PM EST

    In Response to Re: Bobby V?:
    In Response to Bobby V? : Who are they that would have to listen to you? Hope you are talking about the right way to clean the toilets and wash the jock straps...Think i might have to agree with you.
    Posted by donrd4


    Clean jock straps may have made all the difference, you just never know.......
     

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    Re: Bobby V?

    posted at 11/19/2011 7:01 PM EST

    Yeah, I think that sounds reasonable. He might have some shock value that would burn out fast, but be effective while it lasted. In Response to Re: Bobby V?:
    In Response to Re: Bobby V? : yep, and the other just won a WS then called it a career (LaRussa), and word is the sox at least kicked his tires too even after he retired, but obviously gave it up quickly when realizing he couldnt be lured outta retirement (although I wouldnt be totally shocked to see him get the itch and pop back up in a year or 2).  bobby v could be a solid short term fix, then maybe at some point his departure might conveniently align with a joe maddon and/or john farrell ultimately becoming available. this team still has the talent to be right in the thick of things, i personally would prefer valentine's vast experience and intense approach to a newb learning on the fly (although I think Alomar with an experienced old school bench coach could possibly work out well). at least with this particular team right now. just my opinion, but really, who knows.  this situation and these players present Valentine with a rather unique opportunity, they give him a legitimate shot at finally getting over the hump and adding a WS title to his resume. in the short term (over say, the next 3 seasons) it could work out well and be a win/win...but I do agree with the common notion that eventually, at some point, it will more than likely turn sour. maybe by then it wont matter as much if they have added another championship.
    Posted by HOFFBURGER


     

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    Re: Bobby V?

    posted at 11/19/2011 8:24 PM EST

    In Response to Re: Bobby V?:
    What did Francona win before inheriting a team one dumb move from the World Series?
    Posted by georom4
    Will you ever quit firing shots at Tito geo?
     

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    Re: Bobby V?

    posted at 11/20/2011 7:29 AM EST

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    I guess no one here heard him during the Play-Offs and WS on radio. This guy knows his Baseball. Hope the Sox hire him.
    Posted by bobbysu
    Agreed, 100 percent.

     

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    Re: Bobby V?

    posted at 11/20/2011 7:38 AM EST

    hoff and bobby great and refreshing, I hope everyone takes the time to read.
    Bobby V has a good baseball mind that will keep the players on their toes.
    Maddon and Farrell may be in line if Bobby lasts for two years.
     

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    Re: Bobby V?

    posted at 11/20/2011 8:44 AM EST

    Since I am NOT a Lucchino fan (the way he just cuckholded Cherington has a lot to do with this), I think Valentinte would be great for the Sox.  Someone who would stand up to Lucchino, and make sure his voice was heard louder and more often.
     

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    Re: Bobby V?

    posted at 11/20/2011 10:41 AM EST

    Wait and see.    Valentine will get into a shouting match with a Sox player before July for all cameras to see.    
     

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    Re: Bobby V?

    posted at 11/20/2011 11:55 AM EST

    In Response to Re: Bobby V?:
    What did Francona win before inheriting a team one dumb move from the World Series?
    Posted by georom4


    Geo,

       Getting to the World Series doesn't mean winning it.

       The tired statement you profer here is meaningless.  Only under Tito's truly historical leadership did the Red Sox accomplish the seemingly impossible.

       This kind of false view of history would be cherished by the royal house of Portugal ... they could say WE WOULD BE THE MONARCH OF THE OCEAN BLUE not Spain, if not for a single decision of ........




      
     

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    Re: Bobby V?

    posted at 11/20/2011 6:27 PM EST

    Valentine is set to meet with Ben Charington tomorrow for his first interview. The two sides had met to discuss interest a few weeks ago, but there hadn't been a formal interview.
     

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    Re: Bobby V?

    posted at 11/20/2011 6:53 PM EST


    Let me stop laughing long enough to respond to Since yaz.. Did you really type
    "TERRY'S truly historical leadership"? I'm losing it again, I feel like Remy and Orsillo when they can't stop laughing......too funny.