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    on ESPN.com / Jerry Crasnick article

    yes...i know...bOGAERTS. 

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/9488053/boston-red-sox-prospect-xander-bogaerts-ready-help-club-2013-mlb

    Beyond his talent on the field, Boston Red Sox shortstop prospect Xander Bogaerts rates a Torii Hunter-like grade on the 20-80 player congeniality scale. He displayed his people skills during the All-Star Futures Game, when he stood near the third-base dugout at Citi Field in New York and gave one media interview after another on a day so hot it could melt a Cliff Lee death stare.

    Bogaerts, 20, answered questions about his position preference (open-minded), his linguistic skills (he speaks fluent English, Spanish, Dutch and Papiamento) and his feelings about spending last August and this spring with Boston's Double-A affiliate in Portland, Maine.

    "Cold," Bogaerts said, laughing. "Last year was such beautiful weather, and I came into Portland this year and it was a hard time -- especially being from Aruba. It was a good learning experience. It's definitely challenging. Hopefully next year, wherever I am, I'm accustomed to the cold."

    Apparently Bogaerts' swing is weather-resistant. He hit .311 with a .909 OPS for the Seadogs to earn a promotion to Triple-A Pawtucket, where he has seven home runs in his first 29 games. For Red Sox fans and die-hard prospect watchers wondering when he might break through and earn a promotion to the big club in Boston, here's a hint: He's getting warmer.

    Finding his place

     

    In Keith Law's midseason ranking of MLB's top prospects, Bogaerts comes in at No. 3, and it has become apparent that he doesn't have much left to prove until Pawtucket manager Gary DiSarcina calls him into the office for that once-in-a-lifetime conversation. Boston general manager Ben Cherington recently acknowledged that Bogaerts could be at Fenway Park before the end of the season, and assistant GM Mike Hazen reiterated those sentiments in an interview with ESPN.com.

     

    "Like Ben said, you can't be in Triple-A and not be knocking on the door," Hazen said. "We think this guy can play major league shortstop. That's No. 1. But if his bat and ability put him on the major league team, we have to figure out a place to play him. And we will."

    As Bogaerts climbs the organizational ladder, he's suffering from a mild case of Jurickson Profar "Where-do-we-put-him?" syndrome. Jose Iglesias, a shortstop by trade who was lauded primarily for his glove on his way through the system, is hitting .367 in 52 games and is poised to slide from third base over to shortstop when Stephen Drew leaves town. Dustin Pedroia has second base covered for the foreseeable future, and the Red Sox still have to figure out where they're going with third baseman Will Middlebrooks -- who earned a demotion to Pawtucket with a rough two months and is trying to work his way back up I-95 toward Boston.

    In addition, the Red Sox have two more promising infielders progressing through the system in third baseman Garin Cecchini, another Futures Game participant, and shortstop Deven Marrero, a former Arizona State Sun Devil and 2012 first-round pick. It's a nice problem to have.

    Bogaerts is the shining light of the Boston farm system because of his athletic ability and live bat. He signed out of his native Aruba for a $410,000 bonus at age 17 and made an instant impression when former international scouting director Craig Shipley brought him to Fort Myers, Fla., and he began cranking balls into the nether regions of City of Palms Park.

    Over the past year, Bogaerts' plate discipline and defensive consistency have been major areas of improvement. Last year Bogaerts struck out 106 times and drew 44 walks in 532 minor league plate appearances. This year he has 72 strikeouts and 50 walks in 378 plate appearances. He's able to make adjustments from game to game, at-bat to at-bat and pitch to pitch, impressive feats for a 20-year-old who has moved through the system so aggressively.

    "He doesn't try to take monster hacks at every pitch in all counts," said pitcher Anthony Ranaudo, Bogaerts' former teammate in Portland. "He just recognizes pitches and he hits them."

    Phillies prospect Jesse Biddle, who faced Bogaerts several times with Reading in the Eastern League, focused on keeping the ball down in the zone against Bogaerts and fared better than most. Anyone who falls behind Bogaerts and pumps fastballs up in the zone is destined for trouble.

    "The majority of time that I got him out, I threw him off-speed stuff," Biddle said. "He doesn't really miss fastballs. It's fun to watch when I'm not pitching. When I'm pitching, I just try to get ahead of him and then spin him to death. We talked about it and he said, 'You kind of own me.' Not a lot of guys do."

     

    Positional awareness

     

    The glove has been the bigger revelation this season. At 6-foot-3, 175 pounds, Bogaerts has a big frame for a shortstop, and the conventional wisdom is that he might eventually outgrow the position. But as a scout at the Futures Game observed, "That whole thing went out with Cal Ripken."

    When the people running Boston's farm system watch Bogaerts, they see a player who is more reliant on skill and accrued knowledge and less dependent on pure athletic ability every year. Bogaerts has benefited greatly from working with DiSarcina, who played parts of 12 seasons in the majors as a shortstop with the Angels.

    "For any young player who's a shortstop in A-ball, it's going to be more athleticism over technique," Hazen said. "When they get to the upper levels, they learn about the technique. The pre-pitch routine. The shifting and shading based on how the pitcher is attacking the hitter. Being able to more comfortably go to the backhand consistently, and just making the routine plays.

    "I point to how Stephen Drew plays shortstop. How many times can you make that throw across the diamond and put it head-high to the first baseman? Those are the little technical skills that Xander is working on now. He's starting to pick up those nuances of the position as he moves up the ladder."

    The Red Sox think Bogaerts has the aptitude to move to third base or the outfield eventually if that's the only route available. In the World Baseball Classic, he played third base for the Netherlands because Atlanta Braves glove wizard and Curacao native Andrelton Simmons had a lock on shortstop. Simmons, Profar, Bogaerts, Arizona shortstop Didi Gregorius and Baltimore prospect Jonathan Schoop herald a new wave of infield talent who hail from what Bogaerts calls the "little blessed islands" in the Caribbean (Aruba and Curacao). If Bogaerts becomes a star at shortstop, fine. If he has to move elsewhere to find his niche, he will not regard it as a personal affront.

    "I really think I'm good at shortstop right now, so that's what I'm focusing on," he said. "But I don't have a problem with [moving]. I can pitch. I'll even catch."

    And Bogaerts can most definitely hit, regardless of the weather, the venue or the caliber of pitching he encounters. His ascent to the big stage is now a question of when -- not if.

    "The whole game just looks easy when he plays it," Biddle said. "Just watch him and see how he goes about his business. He's definitely one of those guys you know is going a long way in this game."

     
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    It's very excited to have prospects like Bogaerts, Cecchini, Owens, Ranaudo, Bradley Jr., and even TBall and Denney.  I think it soon will be Cecchini's time to get all the spot lights.  He can be #3 in batting order with 20+ HRs and 100 RBIs and Rs regularly with high batting average and OBP.  

     
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    It's very excited to have prospects like Bogaerts, Cecchini, Owens, Ranaudo, Bradley Jr., and even TBall and Denney.  I think it soon will be Cecchini's time to get all the spot lights.  He can be #3 in batting order with 20+ HRs and 100 RBIs and Rs regularly with high batting average and OBP.  



    I'd add Swihart, RDLR, and Webster to the list of players to be highly excited about for years to come. 

     
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    It's very excited to have prospects like Bogaerts, Cecchini, Owens, Ranaudo, Bradley Jr., and even TBall and Denney.  I think it soon will be Cecchini's time to get all the spot lights.  He can be #3 in batting order with 20+ HRs and 100 RBIs and Rs regularly with high batting average and OBP.  

     



    I'd add Swihart, RDLR, and Webster to the list of players to be highly excited about for years to come. 

     




    I'd add Vazquez to that as well, but we could keep on going.

     
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    It's very excited to have prospects like Bogaerts, Cecchini, Owens, Ranaudo, Bradley Jr., and even TBall and Denney.  I think it soon will be Cecchini's time to get all the spot lights.  He can be #3 in batting order with 20+ HRs and 100 RBIs and Rs regularly with high batting average and OBP.  

     



    I'd add Swihart, RDLR, and Webster to the list of players to be highly excited about for years to come. 

     

     




    I'd add Vazquez to that as well, but we could keep on going.

     

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    yeah he's a good prospect, but I wouldn't put him in the same tier as those other guys.  All those other prospects have ceilings of all-stars and floors of MLB regulars (all things considered)  Vazquez is a defensive backup who can be a platoon catcher with some offensive progression. 

     
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    It's very excited to have prospects like Bogaerts, Cecchini, Owens, Ranaudo, Bradley Jr., and even TBall and Denney.  I think it soon will be Cecchini's time to get all the spot lights.  He can be #3 in batting order with 20+ HRs and 100 RBIs and Rs regularly with high batting average and OBP.  

     



    I'd add Swihart, RDLR, and Webster to the list of players to be highly excited about for years to come. 

     

     




    I'd add Vazquez to that as well, but we could keep on going.

     

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    Ok, so lets do that...

    Matt Barnes, Brandon Workman, and Id also add Mookie Betts whos starting to turn heads and has a great name.

     
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    I was in attendance April 4, the first game of this years SeaDogs season, the temp was in the 40's; a wind chill that was extreme. Baseball should not have been played . The Trenton Yankees won the game 13-5---Britton pitched 3 Inn. Xman went 0 for 4. Stephen Drew was rehabbing his concussion and was 0 for 3. Drew payed SS and Boggie was the DH.

    He seems like a personable guy and I love his potential. Question---would you trade him straight up for Giancarlo? I'm sure the Marlins would want more but would they take someone with a lot of control--perhaps a second coming of Hanley Ramizez. We have someone to play 3 B--Cecch. Middlebrooks if he's not traded could move to the other corner with Iggy at SS.

    Stanton could be the mainstay in  LF with JBJ in CF and and ShaVic in RF( Brentz the heir apparent).

    Just tossing it out there---he would make that middle of  the order amazing--Ortiz, Nap,  Giancarlo and Salty

     

     
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    I was in attendance April 4, the first game of this years SeaDogs season, the temp was in the 40's; a wind chill that was extreme. Baseball should not have been played . The Trenton Yankees won the game 13-5---Britton pitched 3 Inn. Xman went 0 for 4. Stephen Drew was rehabbing his concussion and was 0 for 3. Drew payed SS and Boggie was the DH.

    He seems like a personable guy and I love his potential. Question---would you trade him straight up for Giancarlo? I'm sure the Marlins would want more but would they take someone with a lot of control--perhaps a second coming of Hanley Ramizez. We have someone to play 3 B--Cecch. Middlebrooks if he's not traded could move to the other corner with Iggy at SS.

    Stanton could be the mainstay in  LF with JBJ in CF and and ShaVic in RF( Brentz the heir apparent).

    Just tossing it out there---he would make that middle of  the order amazing--Ortiz, Nap,  Giancarlo and Salty

     



    Boegarts is the true definition of "untouchable" at this point.  You would be hard pressed to find anyone in the entire Sox Organization who would consider trading him for Stanton, even straight up.

     
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    I was in attendance April 4, the first game of this years SeaDogs season, the temp was in the 40's; a wind chill that was extreme. Baseball should not have been played . The Trenton Yankees won the game 13-5---Britton pitched 3 Inn. Xman went 0 for 4. Stephen Drew was rehabbing his concussion and was 0 for 3. Drew payed SS and Boggie was the DH.

    He seems like a personable guy and I love his potential. Question---would you trade him straight up for Giancarlo? I'm sure the Marlins would want more but would they take someone with a lot of control--perhaps a second coming of Hanley Ramizez. We have someone to play 3 B--Cecch. Middlebrooks if he's not traded could move to the other corner with Iggy at SS.

    Stanton could be the mainstay in  LF with JBJ in CF and and ShaVic in RF( Brentz the heir apparent).

    Just tossing it out there---he would make that middle of  the order amazing--Ortiz, Nap,  Giancarlo and Salty

     

     



    Boegarts is the true definition of "untouchable" at this point.  You would be hard pressed to find anyone in the entire Sox Organization who would consider trading him for Stanton, even straight up.

     

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    Think of it this way Xander Bogaerts floor is probably pretty close to an allstar third baseman.  His ceiling (and he hasn't slowed down yet) is the best player in baseball.....for a lot cheaper than Stanton

     
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    I was in attendance April 4, the first game of this years SeaDogs season, the temp was in the 40's; a wind chill that was extreme. Baseball should not have been played . The Trenton Yankees won the game 13-5---Britton pitched 3 Inn. Xman went 0 for 4. Stephen Drew was rehabbing his concussion and was 0 for 3. Drew payed SS and Boggie was the DH.

    He seems like a personable guy and I love his potential. Question---would you trade him straight up for Giancarlo? I'm sure the Marlins would want more but would they take someone with a lot of control--perhaps a second coming of Hanley Ramizez. We have someone to play 3 B--Cecch. Middlebrooks if he's not traded could move to the other corner with Iggy at SS.

    Stanton could be the mainstay in  LF with JBJ in CF and and ShaVic in RF( Brentz the heir apparent).

    Just tossing it out there---he would make that middle of  the order amazing--Ortiz, Nap,  Giancarlo and Salty

     

     

     



    Boegarts is the true definition of "untouchable" at this point.  You would be hard pressed to find anyone in the entire Sox Organization who would consider trading him for Stanton, even straight up.

     

     

     

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    Think of it this way Xander Bogaerts floor is probably pretty close to an allstar third baseman.  His ceiling (and he hasn't slowed down yet) is the best player in baseball.....for a lot cheaper than Stanton

     

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    Exactly...

     
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    It's very excited to have prospects like Bogaerts, Cecchini, Owens, Ranaudo, Bradley Jr., and even TBall and Denney.  I think it soon will be Cecchini's time to get all the spot lights.  He can be #3 in batting order with 20+ HRs and 100 RBIs and Rs regularly with high batting average and OBP.  



    I highly doubt that GC will ever hit for that much power. Strikes me more as a Bill Mueller type where he will hit .315/.400/.425 with 10-15 HRs, 65-85 RBIs, 10-20 STLs. He will be able to hit in the top of the order or the bottom of the order - not the middle IMO. 

     
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    It's very excited to have prospects like Bogaerts, Cecchini, Owens, Ranaudo, Bradley Jr., and even TBall and Denney.  I think it soon will be Cecchini's time to get all the spot lights.  He can be #3 in batting order with 20+ HRs and 100 RBIs and Rs regularly with high batting average and OBP.  

     



    I highly doubt that GC will ever hit for that much power. Strikes me more as a Bill Mueller type where he will hit .315/.400/.425 with 10-15 HRs, 65-85 RBIs, 10-20 STLs. He will be able to hit in the top of the order or the bottom of the order - not the middle IMO. 

     

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    Why? Most scouts slap an above average power potential slapped on him.  Granted we can't assume the power will come but he has the doubles power now and room to fill out.  Power is the last tool to usually develop and I can see cecchini easily hitting 20.

     
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    I was in attendance April 4, the first game of this years SeaDogs season, the temp was in the 40's; a wind chill that was extreme. Baseball should not have been played . The Trenton Yankees won the game 13-5---Britton pitched 3 Inn. Xman went 0 for 4. Stephen Drew was rehabbing his concussion and was 0 for 3. Drew payed SS and Boggie was the DH.

    He seems like a personable guy and I love his potential. Question---would you trade him straight up for Giancarlo? I'm sure the Marlins would want more but would they take someone with a lot of control--perhaps a second coming of Hanley Ramizez. We have someone to play 3 B--Cecch. Middlebrooks if he's not traded could move to the other corner with Iggy at SS.

    Stanton could be the mainstay in  LF with JBJ in CF and and ShaVic in RF( Brentz the heir apparent).

    Just tossing it out there---he would make that middle of  the order amazing--Ortiz, Nap,  Giancarlo and Salty

     

     

     

     



    Boegarts is the true definition of "untouchable" at this point.  You would be hard pressed to find anyone in the entire Sox Organization who would consider trading him for Stanton, even straight up.

     

     

     

     

     

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    Think of it this way Xander Bogaerts floor is probably pretty close to an allstar third baseman.  His ceiling (and he hasn't slowed down yet) is the best player in baseball.....for a lot cheaper than Stanton

     

     

     

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    Exactly...

     

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    You're kidding, right?  "Floor" of All Star third baseman?

     

    I haven't seen praise like that since people onthis board referred to Andy Marte as a "Future Hall of Famer".  When is his induction again?

     
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    Ok maybe more of a projection.......but tell me you don't think this kid is for real?  He's a 20 year old who looks comfortable in triple A and has exceeded expectations every year.   

     
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    I understand he hasn't done nothing yet and there is a chance he's a complete bust....but that is a low chance when usually it's a much higher chance with prospects.  

     
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    I was in attendance April 4, the first game of this years SeaDogs season, the temp was in the 40's; a wind chill that was extreme. Baseball should not have been played . The Trenton Yankees won the game 13-5---Britton pitched 3 Inn. Xman went 0 for 4. Stephen Drew was rehabbing his concussion and was 0 for 3. Drew payed SS and Boggie was the DH.

    He seems like a personable guy and I love his potential. Question---would you trade him straight up for Giancarlo? I'm sure the Marlins would want more but would they take someone with a lot of control--perhaps a second coming of Hanley Ramizez. We have someone to play 3 B--Cecch. Middlebrooks if he's not traded could move to the other corner with Iggy at SS.

    Stanton could be the mainstay in  LF with JBJ in CF and and ShaVic in RF( Brentz the heir apparent).

    Just tossing it out there---he would make that middle of  the order amazing--Ortiz, Nap,  Giancarlo and Salty

     

     

     

     

     



    Boegarts is the true definition of "untouchable" at this point.  You would be hard pressed to find anyone in the entire Sox Organization who would consider trading him for Stanton, even straight up.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    Think of it this way Xander Bogaerts floor is probably pretty close to an allstar third baseman.  His ceiling (and he hasn't slowed down yet) is the best player in baseball.....for a lot cheaper than Stanton

     

     

     

     

     

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    You're kidding, right?  "Floor" of All Star third baseman?

     

    I haven't seen praise like that since people onthis board referred to Andy Marte as a "Future Hall of Famer".  When is his induction again?

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    This isn't "Andy Marte" by any stretch.  I have no idea how good he'll be, but he's as "can't miss" as it gets at this point.  I do know for a fact that he is also as "untouchable" as any young player in the game right now.  He's arguably their best all around prospect they've had since Fred Lynn. Scouts are looking for a weakness with this kid and can't seem to find one right now.  Throw in the fact that he's got a terrific work ethic and great head on his shoulders and you can see why he's considered a "franchise  player."  Nothing is guaranteed in this game, but including him in "trade ideas" right now is a waste of time...

     
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    Notin is probably rigth and taking the more cautious approach.  There is no such thing as a sure thing, (although I agree with Jasko that Bogaerts is the closes thing to a sure thing.  So yes it is very plausible that Xander Bogaerts ends up a bench player.......BUT COME ON!!!! Dont say that!!!! 

    I want to here that he is the next Manny Rameriz...but better.  I will no proceed to put my hands over my ears and scream "lalalalalalalal"

     
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    It's very excited to have prospects like Bogaerts, Cecchini, Owens, Ranaudo, Bradley Jr., and even TBall and Denney.  I think it soon will be Cecchini's time to get all the spot lights.  He can be #3 in batting order with 20+ HRs and 100 RBIs and Rs regularly with high batting average and OBP.  

     



    I'd add Swihart, RDLR, and Webster to the list of players to be highly excited about for years to come. 

     

     

     




    I'd add Vazquez to that as well, but we could keep on going.

     

     



    yeah he's a good prospect, but I wouldn't put him in the same tier as those other guys.  All those other prospects have ceilings of all-stars and floors of MLB regulars (all things considered)  Vazquez is a defensive backup who can be a platoon catcher with some offensive progression. 

     




    Oh, I definitely wouldn't put him in the category of guys like Bogaerts or Cecchini in terms of upside (I realized how homer-ish that sounded if read that way), but I do like what I've seen from him so far. Defense behind the plate hasn't been our strongest suit for a few years now.

     
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    It's very excited to have prospects like Bogaerts, Cecchini, Owens, Ranaudo, Bradley Jr., and even TBall and Denney.  I think it soon will be Cecchini's time to get all the spot lights.  He can be #3 in batting order with 20+ HRs and 100 RBIs and Rs regularly with high batting average and OBP.  

     

     



    I highly doubt that GC will ever hit for that much power. Strikes me more as a Bill Mueller type where he will hit .315/.400/.425 with 10-15 HRs, 65-85 RBIs, 10-20 STLs. He will be able to hit in the top of the order or the bottom of the order - not the middle IMO. 

     

     

     

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    Why? Most scouts slap an above average power potential slapped on him.  Granted we can't assume the power will come but he has the doubles power now and room to fill out.  Power is the last tool to usually develop and I can see cecchini easily hitting 20.

     

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    I can see him hitting 20-25HR in a couple years. He gets the barrel of the bat on the ball ans squares it up so good. That, along with his vary advanced plate approach, I can see him considtently hitting 20.

     
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    It's very excited to have prospects like Bogaerts, Cecchini, Owens, Ranaudo, Bradley Jr., and even TBall and Denney.  I think it soon will be Cecchini's time to get all the spot lights.  He can be #3 in batting order with 20+ HRs and 100 RBIs and Rs regularly with high batting average and OBP.  

     



    I'd add Swihart, RDLR, and Webster to the list of players to be highly excited about for years to come. 

     

     

     




    I'd add Vazquez to that as well, but we could keep on going.

     

     



    yeah he's a good prospect, but I wouldn't put him in the same tier as those other guys.  All those other prospects have ceilings of all-stars and floors of MLB regulars (all things considered)  Vazquez is a defensive backup who can be a platoon catcher with some offensive progression. 

     

     




    Oh, I definitely wouldn't put him in the category of guys like Bogaerts or Cecchini in terms of upside (I realized how homer-ish that sounded if read that way), but I do like what I've seen from him so far. Defense behind the plate hasn't been our strongest suit for a few years now.

     

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    His defense is in the mold of Yadier Molia, which is no surprise since they workout together on the offseason. St.Louis said that they didnt care if Yaddy hit at all as long as they had his defense and leadership behind the plate. He eventually became a .300 hitter with a little "pop" in his bat and one of the best all around cathers in the game. Now, Im not saying Vasquez will be that good, but his defense is already MLB ready (and still improving) and he has shown signs of improving offense ie; lower K% and higher BB% at Portland. Vasquez probably wont be here before 2015, but after last ST I think he will be in competition for a spot.

     
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    It's very excited to have prospects like Bogaerts, Cecchini, Owens, Ranaudo, Bradley Jr., and even TBall and Denney.  I think it soon will be Cecchini's time to get all the spot lights.  He can be #3 in batting order with 20+ HRs and 100 RBIs and Rs regularly with high batting average and OBP.  

     

     

     



    I highly doubt that GC will ever hit for that much power. Strikes me more as a Bill Mueller type where he will hit .315/.400/.425 with 10-15 HRs, 65-85 RBIs, 10-20 STLs. He will be able to hit in the top of the order or the bottom of the order - not the middle IMO. 

     

     

     

     

     

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    Why? Most scouts slap an above average power potential slapped on him.  Granted we can't assume the power will come but he has the doubles power now and room to fill out.  Power is the last tool to usually develop and I can see cecchini easily hitting 20.

     

     

     

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    I can see him hitting 20-25HR in a couple years. He gets the barrel of the bat on the ball ans squares it up so good. That, along with his vary advanced plate approach, I can see him considtently hitting 20.

     

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    Exactly.  I don't see him so much as a power hitter but just a guy that is big enough to were he should hit around 20 just because he makes such great contact.  Kind of (and this is a bad comp I know) the same kinda power Pedey has. 

     
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    It's very excited to have prospects like Bogaerts, Cecchini, Owens, Ranaudo, Bradley Jr., and even TBall and Denney.  I think it soon will be Cecchini's time to get all the spot lights.  He can be #3 in batting order with 20+ HRs and 100 RBIs and Rs regularly with high batting average and OBP.  




    The Sox future is bright no doubt...   It kills me when peeps on here wanna package 6 or 7 of them up and trade them off to the Marlins for a guy that ain't hitting much better than our former "demoted" 3B.  Or for the "spitter" from the Cubbies.  Stay patient Ben,  the next generation of Sox talent is soon to arrive. 

     
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    It's very excited to have prospects like Bogaerts, Cecchini, Owens, Ranaudo, Bradley Jr., and even TBall and Denney.  I think it soon will be Cecchini's time to get all the spot lights.  He can be #3 in batting order with 20+ HRs and 100 RBIs and Rs regularly with high batting average and OBP.  

     




    The Sox future is bright no doubt...   It kills me when peeps on here wanna package 6 or 7 of them up and trade them off to the Marlins for a guy that ain't hitting much better than our former "demoted" 3B.  Or for the "spitter" from the Cubbies.  Stay patient Ben,  the next generation of Sox talent is soon to arrive. 

     

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    it seems A lot of Sox fans use the "grass is always greener" approach. Im with you. Hold on to  these top prospects.

     
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    Everyone was gaga about Lavarnway and Anderson too.  Some said Andrrson was the next Ted Williams.

    The point?  Don't count your chickens before they hatch.

     
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    Everyone was gaga about Lavarnway and Anderson too.  Some said Andrrson was the next Ted Williams.

    The point?  Don't count your chickens before they hatch.



    Yes I understand they are prospects and there careers are not set in stone.  But Bogaerts is more MUCH more of a prospect than Anderson ever was....and Lavarnway was never really a top prospect.  He was a top 10 in the Sox system when our system as weaker.

     

    I cant remember a time the red sox had a prospect who is arguably the most talented baseball player in the minors. Can you?  Let us have our fun and get excited over these guys 

     
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