Bosox favorites again in the A.L. East??

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    If they're favorites, that wouldn't surprise me. After all, they are a loaded team. Every season, all teams have question marks.
     
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    Yanks won 97 games last year and we laughed at that terrible pitching staff all year long. Tampa Bay never got so much as a look at 2nd place all year long...until the Sept debacle.  Toronto did finish over .500 making the AL East a rarity with 4 of 5 teams over .500.  However in the playoffs, Texas smacked the AL East around again for the 2nd straight year and no AL East playoff team made if past the first round. 

    A healthy Sox season will make them playoff bound but if Lester, Beckett or Buch find the DL again this year...
     
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    Buster Olney comments 1. Boston Red Sox The 2011 Red Sox will be remembered for their September collapse, for beer and fried chicken. But they also led the majors in runs, and there's no reason to think they won't continue to generate a whole lot of offense, with so many elite hitters -- Jacoby Ellsbury, Adrian Gonzalez, Dustin Pedroia, David Ortiz, Kevin Youkilis, Carl Crawford. Run production won't be a problem. 2. Texas Rangers During the course of the 2011 season, Texas suffered significant injuries to Josh Hamilton, Adrian Beltre and Nelson Cruz -- and the Rangers still managed to finish third in the majors in runs scored, through the excellence of Michael Young, and the emergence of Mike Napoli. The band will be back together again in 2012. Can you imagine what the Rangers would be like with the addition of Prince Fielder, dropped right into the middle? 3. New York Yankees This may well be the year that Robinson Cano hits third, where he belongs, right behind MVP candidate Curtis Granderson and right ahead of Mark Teixeira. The depth around this group is staggering -- from Alex Rodriguez to Nick Swisher to Derek Jeter to Brett Gardner to the polished Jesus Montero. It's a relentless lineup that generated 50 more walks last season than any other team. 4. St. Louis Cardinals Albert Pujols will be missed, because of his presence and his defense, but the Cardinals will still score lots of runs. Carlos Beltran was among the best hitters in the National League next year, and David Freese and Allen Craig seemed to have established themselves in September and October. The big question will be Lance Berkman: Can he be close to what he was for the Cardinals this summer? 5. Colorado Rockies You start with Troy Tulowitzki and Carlos Gonzalez, and you throw in a Michael Cuddyer and a Ramon Hernandez, and you consider the improvement of Dexter Fowler, who hit .288 and had a .380 on-base percentage in the second half of the season … The Rockies are going to pile up a whole lot of runs. 6. Detroit Tigers By the time the Tigers were into the American League Championship Series, injuries had frayed away a lot of the depth that had propelled Detroit during the season. Brennan Boesch seemed to blossom before a thumb injury ended his season, and Alex Avila had a .389 on-base percentage before struggling in October. Miguel Cabrera may be the majors' best right-handed hitter, and Victor Martinez thrived in the DH role. The Tigers need more consistency from Austin Jackson at the top of their lineup, but this is a powerful lineup. 7. Toronto Blue Jays Jose Bautista is the centerpiece of the batting order, a slugger who compiled 43 homers, 132 walks and an OPS of 1.056. But it may not be long before Brett Lawrie becomes the Robin to Bautista's Batman -- in his first 43 games in the big leagues, he made an immediate impact, posting a .580 slugging percentage, with nine homers in just 150 at-bats. Yunel Escobar had a .369 on-base percentage, Adam Lind wound up with 26 homers and 87 RBIs despite a terrible second half, and J.P. Arencibia hits for power. This is a good lineup that has a chance to get a lot better as its young players develop. 8. Kansas City Royals There's not much this group doesn't have, other than experience -- there are strong middle-of-the-order hitters, with Eric Hosmer and Billy Butler; extra-base power, from Jeff Francoeur and Mike Moustakas; hitters who are adept at getting on base, like Alex Gordon; and speed, with Alcides Escobar and Lorenzo Cain. 9. Arizona Diamondbacks The D-backs have power, speed, lefty-righty balance, depth -- the only real issue is that they don't have true top-of-the-order hitters. But what they lack at the top, they more than make up for with impact bats in the middle of their lineup, with Justin Upton, Miguel Montero, newcomer Jason Kubel and others. Paul Goldschmidt is prone to strikeouts, but he showed at the end of last season that he is capable of big-time game-changing power; he had eight homers in 156 at-bats last season. 10. Cincinnati Reds They have worked to upgrade their pitching staff this winter, and if successful, the Reds could get back to the top of the NL Central, because they have the offense to win -- with Joey Votto, Brandon Phillips, Jay Bruce, Drew Stubbs and Scott Rolen. It's hard to imagine that the Reds won't get better production from their left fielders, whoever they may be, than in 2011, when Cincinnati left fielders ranked 22nd among 30 teams in OPS.
     
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    The startling thing really is that the AL East isn't the epicenter of AL baseball anymore.  Is that a sacriligious thing to say?

    Texas and LAA are serious, serious players.  Texas, obviously, has taken the biscuit two seasons in a row.  The Angels signings this off season make them a potential powerhouse.

    I can easily accept being considered favorites in the East ... but the reality between favorites and the eventual real deal is the catch. 
     
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    [QUOTE]Buster Olney comments 1. Boston Red Sox The 2011 Red Sox will be remembered for their September collapse, for beer and fried chicken. But they also led the majors in runs, and there's no reason to think they won't continue to generate a whole lot of offense, with so many elite hitters -- Jacoby Ellsbury, Adrian Gonzalez, Dustin Pedroia, David Ortiz, Kevin Youkilis, Carl Crawford. Run production won't be a problem. 2. Texas Rangers During the course of the 2011 season, Texas suffered significant injuries to Josh Hamilton, Adrian Beltre and Nelson Cruz -- and the Rangers still managed to finish third in the majors in runs scored, through the excellence of Michael Young, and the emergence of Mike Napoli. The band will be back together again in 2012. Can you imagine what the Rangers would be like with the addition of Prince Fielder, dropped right into the middle? 3. New York Yankees This may well be the year that Robinson Cano hits third, where he belongs, right behind MVP candidate Curtis Granderson and right ahead of Mark Teixeira. The depth around this group is staggering -- from Alex Rodriguez to Nick Swisher to Derek Jeter to Brett Gardner to the polished Jesus Montero. It's a relentless lineup that generated 50 more walks last season than any other team. 4. St. Louis Cardinals Albert Pujols will be missed, because of his presence and his defense, but the Cardinals will still score lots of runs. Carlos Beltran was among the best hitters in the National League next year, and David Freese and Allen Craig seemed to have established themselves in September and October. The big question will be Lance Berkman: Can he be close to what he was for the Cardinals this summer? 5. Colorado Rockies You start with Troy Tulowitzki and Carlos Gonzalez, and you throw in a Michael Cuddyer and a Ramon Hernandez, and you consider the improvement of Dexter Fowler, who hit .288 and had a .380 on-base percentage in the second half of the season … The Rockies are going to pile up a whole lot of runs. 6. Detroit Tigers By the time the Tigers were into the American League Championship Series, injuries had frayed away a lot of the depth that had propelled Detroit during the season. Brennan Boesch seemed to blossom before a thumb injury ended his season, and Alex Avila had a .389 on-base percentage before struggling in October. Miguel Cabrera may be the majors' best right-handed hitter, and Victor Martinez thrived in the DH role. The Tigers need more consistency from Austin Jackson at the top of their lineup, but this is a powerful lineup. 7. Toronto Blue Jays Jose Bautista is the centerpiece of the batting order, a slugger who compiled 43 homers, 132 walks and an OPS of 1.056. But it may not be long before Brett Lawrie becomes the Robin to Bautista's Batman -- in his first 43 games in the big leagues, he made an immediate impact, posting a .580 slugging percentage, with nine homers in just 150 at-bats. Yunel Escobar had a .369 on-base percentage, Adam Lind wound up with 26 homers and 87 RBIs despite a terrible second half, and J.P. Arencibia hits for power. This is a good lineup that has a chance to get a lot better as its young players develop. 8. Kansas City Royals There's not much this group doesn't have, other than experience -- there are strong middle-of-the-order hitters, with Eric Hosmer and Billy Butler; extra-base power, from Jeff Francoeur and Mike Moustakas; hitters who are adept at getting on base, like Alex Gordon; and speed, with Alcides Escobar and Lorenzo Cain. 9. Arizona Diamondbacks The D-backs have power, speed, lefty-righty balance, depth -- the only real issue is that they don't have true top-of-the-order hitters. But what they lack at the top, they more than make up for with impact bats in the middle of their lineup, with Justin Upton, Miguel Montero, newcomer Jason Kubel and others. Paul Goldschmidt is prone to strikeouts, but he showed at the end of last season that he is capable of big-time game-changing power; he had eight homers in 156 at-bats last season. 10. Cincinnati Reds They have worked to upgrade their pitching staff this winter, and if successful, the Reds could get back to the top of the NL Central, because they have the offense to win -- with Joey Votto, Brandon Phillips, Jay Bruce, Drew Stubbs and Scott Rolen. It's hard to imagine that the Reds won't get better production from their left fielders, whoever they may be, than in 2011, when Cincinnati left fielders ranked 22nd among 30 teams in OPS.
    Posted by rkarp[/QUOTE]

    Did Buster Onley really mention Lupes as an elite hitter along with Ellsbury, Pedey, AGone, Youk and Ortiz?  If this is a copy and paste quote then I just read my last Onley article.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Bosox favorites again in the A.L. East?? : nothing wrong with that i guess, but ...in the ALE anything can hthe last time the Sox were named Masters Of The Universe didn't go too wellappen, we'll see where the chips fall... 
    Posted by jete02fan[/QUOTE]

    Jete,

      Perspective, perspective, perspective ... to Sox fans like me, they ARE always the Masters of the Universe.  All others are mearly necessary parts so the universe can function.

      That doesn't mean the universe doesn't bite sometimes, just that all theother parts exist so we can enjoy being Sox fans.

      :o)
     
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    It all depends on the condition of the back of Buchholz.     He threw a lot less innings in 2011 and needs to build up his arm strength again.     Let's see where he is at the end of spring training.      No pitching depth in the farm system.

    There's always Wakefield.
     
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    Yanks are no better off.
     
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    The Yankees have as many question marks in their rotation as the sox do if not more.  A Rod and Youk are equally beat up but A Rod is 4 years older so given that and the fact the sox pay Youk 18 million LESS per season you have to like the prospect of Youk being in the lineup. I like our DH slot a whole lot more, our first basemen are a wash though A Gon is 2 years younger and a slightly better defender though by a very small margin.  Cano is a better all around second baseman but Pedroia is still excellent.  Both teams have big questions at the shortstop position and the outfields are fairly even with Ells being a slightly better overall player than Granderson, less power more speed better on base. the bullpens are probably fairly even same for the benches.
     
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    To shock most of you, at this stage, I would trade Marco Scutaro for Derek Jeter if I were Brian Cashman. Scutaro is younger, far less expensive and more flexible, that's my opinion, if Valentine decides to install a new SS on a regular but still want performance by Marco as an utility infielder, as Alex Cora did. Signing Nick Punto was a smart move, keeping Mike Aviles for the time being and giving time to 2 young shortstops to develop in the Red Sox organization makes all the sense?

     
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    I'd take gonzo over teixiera
    Cano over pedroia
    i would honestly rather have a young scutaro over an aging injury-prone jeter.
    Arod over Youk
    Crawford over gardener. yeah i know. but crawford is still better no matter how bad he did last year.
    Ells over Grand. Barely
    Swisher over question mark
    Ortiz over montero
    Martin and Salty are a close tie
    Buccholz, Beckett, and Lester over Cc aND CREW.
    The bjullpen is about even
    8-5 Red Sox.
    There's a title in our future

     
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    [QUOTE]Note: Third place was one game worst than second place and decided in the last inning of game 162 by strange happenings in Baltimore and Tampa Bay. One could rationalize it as second place easily.
    Posted by UticaClub[/QUOTE]

    ...except for the fact that no playoff games followed that rationalized 2nd place for the Sox.
     
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    In Response to Re: Bosox favorites again in the A.L. East??:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Bosox favorites again in the A.L. East?? : ...except for the fact that no playoff games followed that rationalized 2nd place for the Sox.
    Posted by traven[/QUOTE]

    That is true but I thought I heard many here shouting out THIRD PLACE, THIRD PLACE as if it was ten times worst in terms of wins and losses and winning pct. than SECOND PLACE. We were all upset at how the Sox missed the playoffs but they were only 6/10 of one percent worse than TB. That's similar to losing the 100 yard dash by 2 feet.
     
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    [QUOTE]To shock most of you, at this stage, I would trade Marco Scutaro for Derek Jeter if I were Brian Cashman. Scutaro is younger, far less expensive and more flexible, that's my opinion, if Valentine decides to install a new SS on a regular but still want performance by Marco as an utility infielder, as Alex Cora did. Signing Nick Punto was a smart move, keeping Mike Aviles for the time being and giving time to 2 young shortstops to develop in the Red Sox organization makes all the sense?
    Posted by rgmfick[/QUOTE]


    If Scuts can stay fully healthy at this juncture he may be the better player than Jetes although Jetes had an excellent second half in 2011. Ditto Scuts he was the best player for the sox in September save Ells. Punto is a solid if unspectacular defender and Mike Aviles can hide at SS for a brief period.  I would rather platoon Aviles and Sweeney(or someone else if Sweeney leaves via trade) and Ryan Kalish once he is healthy for the RF position.
     
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    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/preview/2011/news/story?page=11expertpicks
     
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    [QUOTE]I still think they put the best 8 on the field everyday. It will come down to health for Beckett, Buch and Bailey. I assume one should also mention Jenks and Dice K... Of course, this could be the year that the Yanks finally age (we seem to say that every year) I thought Tampa, especially Shields and their pen pitched over their heads last year and expect a regression I still favor the Sox 
    Posted by rkarp[/QUOTE]
    Seems like we say these same things every year.
    RS need to stay healthy.
    This is the year Yanks get old.
    Tampa pitched over its head.
    Not so sure you can bank on these things. Rays farm keep producing pitching talent. Matt Moore for full year and have to expect better from David Price so even if Shields doesn't reproduce last years numbers good chance starters still could be better. As for bullpen may be time to give Maddon/Friedman some credit instead of saying they keep getting lucky. Yankees have been doing good job themselves in producing some young talent Cano/Gardner/Robertson/Nova/Noesi/Hughes/Chamberlin in recent years and have more on the way in B&B pitchers and Montero not to mention Romine and Sanchez who might be better all around catchers. So for the idea Yanks are going away because they're getting old = not happening, lest we forget they have the $ to fill any need farm doesn't. As for RS lets hope Mike Boyle is a miracle worker. RS have talent to win AL East and injuries have been a problem for RS more than most teams. Have to believe Bob V will help here as well, Francona was ultimate players Mgr. and would cover up all to protect players that may not happen w/ Bob V. Time for players to own up!

     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Bosox favorites again in the A.L. East?? : The Red Sox fan who wrote the Bleacher Report column thinks so: http://bleacherreport.com/users/691133-benjamin-klein The Red Sox should not even seek the favorites tag.
    Posted by hill55[/QUOTE]

    Too true, Hill.  Too true.
     
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    I just started the thread to add to the fire an ounce of optimism and hope to make a feeble effort to counterbalance the hundreds of negative threads and posts that permeate the forum on most days of the year. The forum has enough fans of other teams like Hill (Mariners), AlibiIke (Dodgers), Pistripezac (Yankees), and Law/Softlaw (anti-Red Sox), etc., who are here with their admitted intent to keep Red Sox fans in a Boston forum "honest and realistic". Hats off to Hill for informing us that the author of the above article was a Red Sox fan. How shameful of me to quote a Red Sox fan in a Red Sox forum. I should have been more realistic, honest, and pessimistic about the coming year.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Bosox favorites again in the A.L. East?? : Seems like we say these same things every year. RS need to stay healthy. This is the year Yanks get old. Tampa pitched over its head. Not so sure you can bank on these things. Rays farm keep producing pitching talent. Matt Moore for full year and have to expect better from David Price so even if Shields doesn't reproduce last years numbers good chance starters still could be better. As for bullpen may be time to give Maddon/Friedman some credit instead of saying they keep getting lucky. Yankees have been doing good job themselves in producing some young talent Cano/Gardner/Robertson/Nova/Noesi/Hughes/Chamberlin in recent years and have more on the way in B&B pitchers and Montero not to mention Romine and Sanchez who might be better all around catchers. So for the idea Yanks are going away because they're getting old = not happening, lest we forget they have the $ to fill any need farm doesn't. As for RS lets hope Mike Boyle is a miracle worker. RS have talent to win AL East and injuries have been a problem for RS more than most teams. Have to believe Bob V will help here as well, Francona was ultimate players Mgr. and would cover up all to protect players that may not happen w/ Bob V. Time for players to own up!
    Posted by garyhow[/QUOTE]

    Health always plays the biggest roll in determining who wins the ALE because of the overall depth of talent in all the organizations, but I liked your post and was impressed with your knowledge of the Yankee farms.
     
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    I'm just hoping for a strong April start at this point.
     
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    [QUOTE]I just started the thread to add to the fire an ounce of optimism and hope to make a feeble effort to counterbalance the hundreds of negative threads and posts that permeate the forum on most days of the year. The forum has enough fans of other teams like Hill (Mariners), AlibiIke (Dodgers), Pistripezac (Yankees), and Law/Softlaw (anti-Red Sox), etc., who are here with their admitted intent to keep Red Sox fans in a Boston forum "honest and realistic". Hats off to Hill for informing us that the author of the above article was a Red Sox fan. How shameful of me to quote a Red Sox fan in a Red Sox forum. I should have been more realistic, honest, and pessimistic about the coming year.
    Posted by UticaClub[/QUOTE]

    What's being drummed into the heads of fans here day after day is, if you're not being negative, you're not being honest. If you're positive about your team, you're not being realistic. I have no idea how guys like Zac and Steven have been able to pull this off for so long. The "Reinstated Ones". It's a gang. lol

     
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    I'm a realist, to an optimist I'm a pessimist to a pessimist I'm an optimist.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Bosox favorites again in the A.L. East?? : What's being drummed into the heads of fans here day after day is, if you're not being negative, you're not being honest. If you're positive about your team, you're not being realistic. I have no idea how guys like Zac and Steven have been able to pull this off for so long. The "Reinstated Ones". It's a gang. lol
    Posted by kimsaysthis[/QUOTE]

    This is more hostile fandom based inaccuracies by the queen of fiction. She should stick to her support of Pike's revelations about the trufan site, myths about the side board, conspiracy theories, hypocrises, ambushes, and manufactured realities.
     
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    though nhsteven can be annoying (as I) I certainly would never side with pike on anything.... you have warped values kimsaysthis. pike is a very venomous sub-human species.

    pike is the kind of guy that if you were in New York and some Yankee hoodlums approached you that you would without hesitation push pike to the ground and run for for your life.
     
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    To shock most of you, at this stage, I would trade Marco Scutaro for Derek Jeter if I were Brian Cashman.---rgmflick
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