Re: BP Dilemma
posted at 5/13/2011 8:48 PM EDT
In Response to Re: BP Dilemma
[QUOTE]Question how many among us has ever managed a bullpen over the coarse of 162 games(Crickets)....I thought so... Let's look at the reality of the situation... Papelbon & Bard: both have pitch well enough and for the most part have held thier own closing ball games...the end game is non issue... Wheeler & Jenks: Set-up who pitch we the game is tied or were up by a few in the 6th and 7th...both were supposed to be bridges to Bard and Papelbon and serve as high leverage guys to preserve leads late in games when the starters ran out of gas...both struggled to open the year and are now on the DL...Herein lyes our biggest concern and frankly if both don't return to form we're in for a long year and Theo will be very active this July! Hill-OKI-Reyes- Lefty specialist...NOT! None have stepped and been the lefty specialist, Reyes is toiling in AAA, after bombing, OKI's been servicable and Hill has at leats looked promising...all are middle guys, none of them are guys that Francona trust in a close games if he has other options. Entering the year this is the area that was seen as a weakness and still the only real weakness on the staff...my guess is that none will be on the roster come Sept 1st! Aceves-Albers: Middle relievers...both have done well all be it in a small sample size, both are caple of pitching multiple innings and thier job is to come into games where were up buy 5 or down by 3 or 4 and keep it close...Thier guys that make our pen deeper and better, if Jenks and Wheeler pitch to expectation! Wakefield: His job is to be the long man-spot starter, ineffect he's the guy that pitches until his arm falls off to preserve the rest of the pen when we're gettin our hats handed to us and gets up and pitches after legnthy rain delays etc. with an occasional start when the schedule dictates the need for a 6th starter or one of the starting 5 goes down...There's a ton of value in having the luxary of a guy like Wake...the Rays use Sonnestine much the same way. End of the day...for our pen to be a true assest Wheeler and/or Jenks or both in a best case, have to return to form...Otherwise it's 2010 redux where too much weight is placed on the starters and Bard & Papelbon will get over used and by years end be less effective...
Posted by Beantowne
I agree with most of this, Bean
. But the problem goes beyond Jenks/Wheeler.
It involves Tito's managing of the pen/starters with minimal margin for error.
And Bard has not pitched well in high-level situations. This disrupts the entire pen, as someone else has to be taken out of their "role" to help bridge the starters to Paps.
This rotation is good enough to go 7 frames, hypothetically. That means in winnable games, it's Bard to Paps. I posted Bard's numbers in critical game conditions.
I never look at pitchers without seeing them thru the pitcher-catcher equation. FWIW, this is the breakdown on Bard. keep in mind it's a short SS. Very short, as is the case for relievers.
Bard w/Salty: 7.94 ERA 23 PA
: 0.69 ERA 47 PA
Bard w/Salty 4.50 ERA 11 PA
Bard w/VMART: 2.64 ERA 183 PA
Bard w/Tek: 0.48 ERA 66 PA
: 0.00 ERA 25 PAEdit: N/I today's game.
Time will tell if this becomes an issue.