Bradley, Jr. needs more time in the minors

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    Re: Bradley, Jr. needs more time in the minors

    In response to ctredsoxfanhugh's comment:

    That's two times, one more and he will show up. 

     

     




    Geez, here we were having a good baseball discussion and you had to go and mention he-who-must-not-be-named. :-)

     
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    Re: Bradley, Jr. needs more time in the minors

    In response to ctredsoxfanhugh's comment:

    That's two times, one more and he will show up. 

     

     



    I think he has some software that alerts him everytime his name is mentioned.

     
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    Re: Bradley, Jr. needs more time in the minors

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    In response to Alibiike's comment:

     

    Other teams are willing to take a risk with their prospects but not the RS. Risk is not in their vocabulary.

    They would rather waste money on a bunch of washed up has-beens than let guys like Bradley and Iggy, and even Lavarnway, play.

     



    I've posted something similar here recently Alibiike.  If they are building "the next great red sox team", then how can you justify an opening day roster that includes Daniel Nava, Ryan Sweeney, and Mike Carp or Lyle Overbay.  Would any of these guys make another team in baseball's roster?  And we are gonna keep 3 of the 4? Really?

     



    Thats what the roster looks like when  team is rebuilding. Besides, those are all bench players. Look at the quality level of the bench players on other ML rosters. They are not the problem. Our problem is the quality of the guys in the starting lineup and starting rotation this year. While it would be more fun to watch guys like Bradley and Webster out there, they are rightfully being conserved for more promising years ahead.

     
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    You have to think there is a chance Bradley starts the seson in Boston.  They have an opening, a weakness in the OF, and are starting him in nearly every ST game, probably for a good reason. ..

     



    Since Gomes is a poor fielder, it makes sense for him to DH, at least vs LHPs, so Bradley could play everyday vs LHPs, and if they bench Gomes or SV vs RHPs, he can play there as well. I don't see many other options to fill in for Papi.

     




     

    The other options are all fairly uninspiring. Carp and Overbay  are role players...

     
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    You have to think there is a chance Bradley starts the seson in Boston.  They have an opening, a weakness in the OF, and are starting him in nearly every ST game, probably for a good reason. ..

     



    Since Gomes is a poor fielder, it makes sense for him to DH, at least vs LHPs, so Bradley could play everyday vs LHPs, and if they bench Gomes or SV vs RHPs, he can play there as well. I don't see many other options to fill in for Papi.

     

     




     

     

    The other options are all fairly uninspiring. Carp and Overbay  are role players...



    I guess they could use Salty at DH at times, but that's not too inspiring either.

    They could use Drew at DH and go with Iggy at SS.

     
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    When one of your key players is missing, isnt it about surviving until suchplayer returns?

    We are handicapped without Papi.  This means that we need to steal close games, find ways to win against good teams, and avoid "playing down to the level competition" against weaker teams until we are at full strength.

    If Bradley is hot, why not let it ride intothe regular season.  The first week of the season isnt much different from spring training.  And if he's hot, he may steal us a game or two over that span.

    Its not like we cant send him down if pitchers adjust to him and his hot streak fades.  

     
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    JBJ has probably been scouted for 6 years now, possibly more.  The Sox organisation has had him for two years and have had numerous managers, coaches, scouts, doctors, etc.  watching his every move.....but 34 spring training PAs - many against non- or poor-quality MLB pitchers - are going to make the decision to keep him?  That's absurd.  It's not going to hurt him to add to his 279 PAs above A ball - if it does, he's clearly too immature anyway - and if he tears it up in AAA we bring him up just after the Super 2 line is reached....having had the chance to look at and hopefully trade someone blocking him.

     
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    Let's get through the next two weeks of ST, a time when the level of play starts to get closer to real MLB games, before we annoint JBJ as MLB-ready.  OTOH, maybe we should just waste a year of control plus about $12m (True Cost of Super 2's), overvalue 30-40 early ST at bats, ignore the fact JBJ has only 200 AB's above A level ball and go for it.  Clearly having JBJ in the line up on April 1st is the key to this team's entire season.

    And yeah, I get it ... everyone wants to be the first one "in" on an exciting prospect.

     
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    Re: Bradley, Jr. needs more time in the minors

    In response to Alibiike's comment:

    Other teams are willing to take a risk with their prospects but not the RS. Risk is not in their vocabulary.

    They would rather waste money on a bunch of washed up has-beens than let guys like Bradley and Iggy, and even Lavarnway, play.



    Simply not true.

     

    BA ranked 30 prospects ahead of Bradley. Of those 30, only one (Trevor Bauer) appears headed for an opening day roster spot. 3 others (Shelby Miller, Mike Olt, Jurickson Profar) still have an outside chance.

     

    The rest will start in the minors..

     
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    And for those wringing their hands about the current plan for LF while also salivating over JBJ's ST stats, keep in mind that Nava was carrying a .900 OPS much of the time before his wrist injury (140 AB's) and he played a pretty good LF for us.  But clearly I'm cherry picking small samples ... 

     

     

    [And no, I'm not saying Nava is a .900 OPS guy ... and JBJ is not likely to be the league's first .500 hitter.]

     

     

     
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    Some people get good points....some just don't have that ability. 

     
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    Re: Bradley, Jr. needs more time in the minors

    In response to softlaw2's comment:

    BA rankings are amazingly accurate. Before making active roster decisions, it's critical that age and BA rankings and what other teams are doing with higher ranking palyers is the controlling factor in the roster decision. If one looks back at BA rankings, the story of ruining or establishing good MLB careers can be found.



    Ugh.  Why always so obstuse? 

     
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    A LF with Nava vs RHPs and Gomes vs LHPs could produce the best OBP by position on the team.

    If Bradley plays, and he should, it should be in CF.

     
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  22. You have chosen to ignore posts from 111SoxFan111. Show 111SoxFan111's posts

    Re: Bradley, Jr. needs more time in the minors

    Let's make it easy:

    1 - Do we have any solid reason to believe JBJ is MLB ready right now?

    2 - Do we have evidence he will be better than other options?

    3 - If yes to #1&2, is it worth losing a year of control to have him in the lineup for the first three weeks of April (~20 games)?

    4 - If yes to #1&2 but no to #3, is it worth $12m to have him in the line up between late April and mid June?

    As far as the Ortiz issue, I'd rather keep Gomez or Lavarnway with the team or use some other rotation of position players and L/R match up.  I don't see how a JBJ being promoted early is a good solution to the DH issue.  Even if it was, I don't believe it is worth the cost of a year of control for those first 20 games.  Now MAYBE the situation sometime between end of April and mid-June makes it worthwhile to promote him at the cost of making him a Super 2 ... they should wait and see IMO.

     
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    Re: Bradley, Jr. needs more time in the minors

    In response to softlaw2's comment:

    he's clearly too immature anyway

    Listen up folk. This poster is an expert judge on tolerance and maturity. His quantiative measurement acumen is legendary.

    Also, critical to wait until the "super 2 status deadline passes", when planning the early season. Losing Ortiz is going to matter, but there is nothing that can be done about that. Bradley, Jr. will make no difference in early game outcomes, but could make a difference if he matures over the next few months. They'll need to watch him closely to see if more minor league baseball helps him mature. In spring training, he's clearly immature, anyway.



    So if Bradley is sent down and pouts about it, is that a sign of maturity or immaturity?

     
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    Re: Bradley, Jr. needs more time in the minors

    Three cheers for Softy's masterful use of sarcasm in this thread.

     

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