Bud Selig's House of Gimmicks

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    Bud Selig's House of Gimmicks

    1. Interleague play - overdone.

    2. All-Star Game winner gets HFA in the World Series - ridiculous.

    3. New Wild Card format - rinky-dink.

    This new Wild Card format was supposed to put a higher premium on winning the division.  Maybe it does.  But what bothers me is that the teams that win the Wild Card games have some advantages of their own.  The way the Rays are set up for this series illustrates that.  They have been playing games while we have been sitting.  But they have also had enough off-days that they will be well rested.  Also, with the type of rotation they have, a 5-game series is more advantageous to them than a 7-game series would be.

    Which brings me to my last complaint. 

    With all the off-days they had to build in to accommodate the Wild Card games, they could have extended the LDS to 7-game series instead.

    I know this might sound like sour grapes or whatever.  But I was critical of the new Wild Card format last year too.  I think it's a gimmick.  Sure it increases fan interest and increases profits.  But it's still a gimmick.

     
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    1. Interleague play - overdone.

    2. All-Star Game winner gets HFA in the World Series - ridiculous.

    3. New Wild Card format - rinky-dink.

    This new Wild Card format was supposed to put a higher premium on winning the division.  Maybe it does.  But what bothers me is that the teams that win the Wild Card games have some advantages of their own.  The way the Rays are set up for this series illustrates that.  They have been playing games while we have been sitting.  But they have also had enough off-days that they will be well rested.  Also, with the type of rotation they have, a 5-game series is more advantageous to them than a 7-game series would be.

    Which brings me to my last complaint. 

    With all the off-days they had to build in to accommodate the Wild Card games, they could have extended the LDS to 7-game series instead.

    I know this might sound like sour grapes or whatever.  But I was critical of the new Wild Card format last year too.  I think it's a gimmick.  Sure it increases fan interest and increases profits.  But it's still a gimmick.



    greetings bob

    with all do respect

    IMO

    that the worst post you have ever made

    1. Interleague play - overdone.

    have you check the attendance figures

    last time I checked there were still definite increases

    besides the way the leagues are set up now
    there' nothing they can do about it

    2. All-Star Game winner gets HFA in the World Series - ridiculous.

    I'm so amazed how many people are bothered by this

    why is it any more ridiculous than taking turns

    never heard anyone complain about that

    which makes me wonder if it's no a anti bud thing

     

    3. New Wild Card format - rinky-dink.

    to each is own I love it as is

    IMO there's no question it's still better to win the div

    unfortunately the off days are needed in case of rain

     

    I know this might sound like sour grapes or whatever

     

    no problem

    I'm guessing you didn't sleep that great last night

    I'm thinking a lot of you had that same nightmare ;-)

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    Hmmm, not sure how funny that is Zac, considering he was killed by a sting ray. Kind of lets the air out of your joke.

     

     
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    I'm betting the Yankees would rather have nightmares, than tee times.

    I love the smell of asphalt in the morning.

     
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    I'm betting the Yankees would rather have nightmares, than tee times.

     

     

    I love the smell of asphalt in the morning.



    The only joy they have left is hoping we lose.

     
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    In response to ThefourBs' comment:

     

    I'm betting the Yankees would rather have nightmares, than tee times.

     

     

    I love the smell of asphalt in the morning.

     



    The only joy they have left is hoping we lose.

     




    Understandable...


    Watching them get smoked by the Tigers last year didn't hurt my feelings any.

     
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    The Rays should not have had ANY off days and I'd rather face them in a 7 games set than a 5 game set.

    I think what we are missing in 2013 vs 04 and 07 is:

     

    Manny Rameriz - he could easily change the way Price and Moore go after us more so than Nap or Gomes

    And a bona fide set up man - Timlin/Okie

    Therefore:

    The entire season will hinge on Lester's ability to pitch a gem in Game 1.

     
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    Hmmm, not sure how funny that is Zac, considering he was killed by a sting ray. Kind of lets the air out of your joke.

     




    no doubt some will agree with you

    sadly the group of PC people in this country that wake up in the morning

    looking to be offended grows daily

     

     then there are others who will just look at it as a joke as it was intended

     

    I'm thinking maybe you didn't think it was funny

    cause you had the same nightmare and missed some sleep

     

    BTW what's your pet name for maddon

     

     
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    In response to pinstripezac35's comment:

    In response to TheExaminer's comment:

     

    Hmmm, not sure how funny that is Zac, considering he was killed by a sting ray. Kind of lets the air out of your joke.

     

     




    no doubt some will agree with you

     

    sadly the group of PC people in this country that wake up in the morning

    looking to be offended grows daily

     

     then there are others who will just look at it as a joke as it was intended

     

    I'm thinking maybe you didn't think it was funny

    cause you had the same nightmare and missed some sleep

     

    BTW what's your pet name for maddon

     



    Haha, first you'd have to go a long way to find someone LESS pc than me, so scratch that one. Second, I never said it offended me. Third, in spite of that, I dont think its cute to make fun of someone's death, that has nothing to do with pc. Fourth, I slept fine last night. 

     
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    In response to pinstripezac35's comment:

    In response to Hfxsoxnut's comment:

     

    1. Interleague play - overdone.

    2. All-Star Game winner gets HFA in the World Series - ridiculous.

    3. New Wild Card format - rinky-dink.

    This new Wild Card format was supposed to put a higher premium on winning the division.  Maybe it does.  But what bothers me is that the teams that win the Wild Card games have some advantages of their own.  The way the Rays are set up for this series illustrates that.  They have been playing games while we have been sitting.  But they have also had enough off-days that they will be well rested.  Also, with the type of rotation they have, a 5-game series is more advantageous to them than a 7-game series would be.

    Which brings me to my last complaint. 

    With all the off-days they had to build in to accommodate the Wild Card games, they could have extended the LDS to 7-game series instead.

    I know this might sound like sour grapes or whatever.  But I was critical of the new Wild Card format last year too.  I think it's a gimmick.  Sure it increases fan interest and increases profits.  But it's still a gimmick.

     



    greetings bob

     

    with all do respect

    IMO

    that the worst post you have ever made

    1. Interleague play - overdone.

    have you check the attendance figures

    last time I checked there were still definite increases

    besides the way the leagues are set up now
    there' nothing they can do about it

    2. All-Star Game winner gets HFA in the World Series - ridiculous.

    I'm so amazed how many people are bothered by this

    why is it any more ridiculous than taking turns

    never heard anyone complain about that

    which makes me wonder if it's no a anti bud thing

     

    3. New Wild Card format - rinky-dink.

    to each is own I love it as is

    IMO there's no question it's still better to win the div

    unfortunately the off days are needed in case of rain



    Zac, there is no no way in heck that was the worst post I've ever made.  You obviously haven't read 'em all.

    I was expecting this response from you, my friend.  You are probably the biggest Bud fan I've encountered on these forums.

    Not that there's anything wrong with that.

     
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    In response to pinstripezac35's comment:

    In response to Hfxsoxnut's comment:

     

    1. Interleague play - overdone.

    2. All-Star Game winner gets HFA in the World Series - ridiculous.

    3. New Wild Card format - rinky-dink.

    This new Wild Card format was supposed to put a higher premium on winning the division.  Maybe it does.  But what bothers me is that the teams that win the Wild Card games have some advantages of their own.  The way the Rays are set up for this series illustrates that.  They have been playing games while we have been sitting.  But they have also had enough off-days that they will be well rested.  Also, with the type of rotation they have, a 5-game series is more advantageous to them than a 7-game series would be.

    Which brings me to my last complaint. 

    With all the off-days they had to build in to accommodate the Wild Card games, they could have extended the LDS to 7-game series instead.

    I know this might sound like sour grapes or whatever.  But I was critical of the new Wild Card format last year too.  I think it's a gimmick.  Sure it increases fan interest and increases profits.  But it's still a gimmick.

     



    greetings bob

     

    with all do respect

    IMO

    that the worst post you have ever made

    1. Interleague play - overdone.

    have you check the attendance figures

    last time I checked there were still definite increases

    besides the way the leagues are set up now
    there' nothing they can do about it

    2. All-Star Game winner gets HFA in the World Series - ridiculous.

    I'm so amazed how many people are bothered by this

    why is it any more ridiculous than taking turns

    never heard anyone complain about that

    which makes me wonder if it's no a anti bud thing

     

    3. New Wild Card format - rinky-dink.

    to each is own I love it as is

    IMO there's no question it's still better to win the div

    unfortunately the off days are needed in case of rain

     

    I know this might sound like sour grapes or whatever

     

    no problem

    I'm guessing you didn't sleep that great last night

    I'm thinking a lot of you had that same nightmare ;-)

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     




    Agree with you on all points Zac.  It makes zero sense to me why people keep talking about how the winner of the ASG gets homefield advantage!!  WHO CARES!!!???

    I actually think the added WC team and 1 game playoff has been the best decision in a LONG time!  There were some GREAT races near the end of the year and some of those were small market teams which is great for the game.

    As for the crocodile hunter thing.....that one was bad my friend.  The guy died......

     

     
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    In response to pinstripezac35's comment:
    [QUOTE]

    1. Interleague play - overdone.

    have you check the attendance figures

    last time I checked there were still definite increases

    besides the way the leagues are set up now
    there' nothing they can do about it

    [QUOTE]

    Nothing they can do about it?  C'mon Zac, that's an incredibly weak argument.  What they could have done was left things exactly as they were - no interleague play, 16 teams in one league and 14 in the other.

     
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    Interleague play is definitely a plus and contributes to surging popularity of MLB.

    MLB all-star game, unique of the three big ones--MLB, NFL, and NBA--actually has players trying their best, so why shouldn't the winning league get a bonus of home field advantage?  NFL and NBA all-star games are jokes, exhibitions, but not MLB.  Let's not forget that the two managers brought this about by declaring a tie to end an All-Star game.  As it turned out, it was good for MLB. 

    One wild card team in each League was a great idea--balanced the division series with 4 teams each, plus it gave all 30 teams more hope to get into the playoffs.

    Two wild card teams is fine with me.  Yes, absolutely, Tampa is now in great shape to whip the Sox, but to get here they had to go through Texas and Cleveland, no mean feat.  They earned where they are.  I almost never agree with redsoxfireman, but I agree on this point:  time for the Sox to show their mettle. 

     

     

     
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    Agree with you on all points Zac.  It makes zero sense to me why people keep talking about how the winner of the ASG gets homefield advantage!!  WHO CARES!!!???



    The ASG is an exhibition game.  It's not a real game.  The fans vote for the All Stars.  The game is not played like a regular game - pitchers go 1 or 2 innings etc.  Basing HFA on this is a joke.  The old alternating system was fine.

     
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    I like best record to determine HFA for the WS.

    I love the smell of asphalt in the morning.

     
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    Interleague play is definitely a plus and contributes to surging popularity of MLB.



    How do you know this? 

     

     
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    "This was the first year of the Astros moving into the AL, and with it, interleague play was sprinkled from the start to end of the season. In years past, the league liked to tout how popular interleague was compared to intraleague, but that was misleading as the games were played in two small pockets in the summer, thus skewing the results. Over 295 games, interleague drew an average of 31,102 per game compared to 30,406, a difference of 696 per game."

     

    From

    The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly of MLB's 2013 Attendance

     

    I love the smell of asphalt in the morning.

     
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    Use the results of interleague play to determine home field advantage for the World Series.  That gives you a base of 280 games.  If there's a tie, maybe you use the records of the team involved in the playoffs.  Or if the 2 World Series teams met during the year, the results of that matchup.  Anything is better than 1 exhibition data point. 

     
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    In response to Hfxsoxnut's comment:

    1. Interleague play - overdone.

    2. All-Star Game winner gets HFA in the World Series - ridiculous.

    3. New Wild Card format - rinky-dink.

    This new Wild Card format was supposed to put a higher premium on winning the division.  Maybe it does.  But what bothers me is that the teams that win the Wild Card games have some advantages of their own.  The way the Rays are set up for this series illustrates that.  They have been playing games while we have been sitting.  But they have also had enough off-days that they will be well rested.  Also, with the type of rotation they have, a 5-game series is more advantageous to them than a 7-game series would be.

    Which brings me to my last complaint. 

    With all the off-days they had to build in to accommodate the Wild Card games, they could have extended the LDS to 7-game series instead.

    I know this might sound like sour grapes or whatever.  But I was critical of the new Wild Card format last year too.  I think it's a gimmick.  Sure it increases fan interest and increases profits.  But it's still a gimmick.



    I agree with you.

    I would add the worst part of interleague play is two sets of rules DH/No DH. If there is going to interleague play everyday like we have now there needs to be one set rule on this. Its crazy that who can and can't play is based on where you are playing.

    As far as the Wild Card goes the LDS series should start the next day after the WC game so that the wild card team doesn't get to use their WC game pitcher as early as game 3. As it is setup now there is little penalty for not winning your division. The RedSox finished 6 games ahead of the Rays in the regular season, their reward should be more than one extra home game.

     

     
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    Use the results of interleague play to determine home field advantage for the World Series.  That gives you a base of 280 games.  If there's a tie, maybe you use the records of the team involved in the playoffs.  Or if the 2 World Series teams met during the year, the results of that matchup.  Anything is better than 1 exhibition data point. 

    +1000
    That make so much more sense that basing it on just one game.

     
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    1. Interleague play - overdone.

    2. All-Star Game winner gets HFA in the World Series - ridiculous.

    3. New Wild Card format - rinky-dink.

    This new Wild Card format was supposed to put a higher premium on winning the division.  Maybe it does.  But what bothers me is that the teams that win the Wild Card games have some advantages of their own.  The way the Rays are set up for this series illustrates that.  They have been playing games while we have been sitting.  But they have also had enough off-days that they will be well rested.  Also, with the type of rotation they have, a 5-game series is more advantageous to them than a 7-game series would be.

    Which brings me to my last complaint. 

    With all the off-days they had to build in to accommodate the Wild Card games, they could have extended the LDS to 7-game series instead.

    I know this might sound like sour grapes or whatever.  But I was critical of the new Wild Card format last year too.  I think it's a gimmick.  Sure it increases fan interest and increases profits.  But it's still a gimmick.

     



    I agree with you.

     

    I would add the worst part of interleague play is two sets of rules DH/No DH. If there is going to interleague play everyday like we have now there needs to be one set rule on this. Its crazy that who can and can't play is based on where you are playing.

    As far as the Wild Card goes the LDS series should start the next day after the WC game so that the wild card team doesn't get to use their WC game pitcher as early as game 3. As it is setup now there is little penalty for not winning your division. The RedSox finished 6 games ahead of the Rays in the regular season, their reward should be more than one extra home game.

     



    that's why winning G1 is so important

    Sox can take G1, G3, and either G4 or G5 (At home) - so hopefully that finally game, at home, will end up being the difference maker..........

     
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    point taken kingface

    but unlike exam said

    I wasn't making fun of the death of anyone

     

     

     

     

    In response to Hfxsoxnut's comment:

    In response to pinstripezac35's comment:
    [QUOTE]

    1. Interleague play - overdone.

    have you check the attendance figures

    last time I checked there were still definite increases

    besides the way the leagues are set up now
    there' nothing they can do about it

    [QUOTE]

    Nothing they can do about it?  C'mon Zac, that's an incredibly weak argument.  What they could have done was left things exactly as they were - no interleague play, 16 teams in one league and 14 in the other.




    that's all true Hfx

    but I was under the impression the players didn't think the uneven divisons were fair

    I think they have a point

    the good news is I'm pretty sure most teams have a couple of less intl games this way

    You obviously haven't read 'em all.

    LOL

    I do defend when I can
    while others seem to doubt it

    I have no doubt he loves the game as much as we do

     

     

     
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    I would add the worst part of interleague play is two sets of rules DH/No DH. If there is going to interleague play everyday like we have now there needs to be one set rule on this. Its crazy that who can and can't play is based on where you are playing.

    once again I don't see a big deal here

    it's fair it's the  same for everyone

    edit: everyone who doesn't have ortiz

     

    As far as the Wild Card goes the LDS series should start the next day after the WC game so that the wild card team doesn't get to use their WC game pitcher as early as game 3. As it is setup now there is little penalty for not winning your division.

    that would be better

    but what a mess it would make

    if there was a 3 way tie  or rain

     

    The RedSox finished 6 games ahead of the Rays in the regular season, their reward should be more than one extra home game.

     why don't you ask texas or clev if that was the only reward




     
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    Zac is the one having nightmares, seeing as the Yankees bent over and grabbed their ankles for the Rays last month. Seeing as none of us have ever reported having a nightmare about being chased by a stingray, and seeing as he is the one that created and posted the image, we can only assume its a nightmare HE had last month, and is trying to shovel it off onto us to exorcise himself. Even so, I do admit playing the Rays will be tougher than playing a bunch of patsies like the Twins the ALDS round (See 2009 playoff brackets). They are more than capable of beating us, but that Twins team? LOL, youve got to be kidding......

     
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