Re: Can we fire Bogar already?
posted at 5/21/2011 12:31 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Can we fire Bogar already?
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Can we fire Bogar already? : Absolutely right on "eggplants" regarding Bogar's ineptitude as a coach, let alone a 3rd base coach. Yet another example of Francona's and/or Theo's blind allegiance to players, coaches, etc. Once again, most EVERYONE in the Red Sox Nation could see that Lester didn't have it, almost from the very beginning, BUT, Francona once again allows Lester to stay in the game till the 5th, to try an get a win. The h*ll with trying to get a win for the team, it was more important for Francona to coddle a starter. Fortunately, the Sox bats covered Francona's a*s once again. Now I'm sure all the Francona apologists will come out of the wood work and defend Francona's managerial style by saying something along the lines of "Francona didn't want to use the bullpen so early in the game", and/or words to that affect. I say bull crap! Team wins are much more important than trying to see a starter, who doesn't have it, getting the win. I think the saying of "don't put the cart before the horse" is somewhat appropriate here. Sadly, nothing will change.....Bogar will screw up again, and Francona will keep his starter in until the 5th so that the starter can get the win, IF, the Sox bats can save the day, yet again. On the positive side, it was terrific to see the offense turning it on last night, and Scott's great 3 inning relief. GO SOX!
Posted by lucbom[/QUOTE]Few comments about your post.
Regarding Bogar, he is no Hale I grant you all that. I totally understand challenging the defense to make the perfect relays and that nobody notices the 3B coach when he gets it right but always notices when he gets it wrong. And that it is RS Nation favorite to whine about 3B coaches. Just the same Bogar's challenges are sometime very dumb and challenging with A-Gon makes that list.
Are you aware of what Bogar's other coaching duties are beyond the 3B coaching box at game time, if so please share with us what they are and why he is so bad at that them with examples.
Do you know who the starters are for the next two days for the Boston Red Sox? If you do, does that help you understand why Francona was trying to get as many innings as he could out of his best starter even though he had poor command of his superior arsenal of pitches. Going into back-to-back games where Aceves and Wakefield are your starters make it pretty mandatory to have a pretty fresh bullpen. He wasn't trying to get Lester a win, he is trying to win the series.
The Tito bashing crowd would be better served if you all sat back thought about why did Tito do what he did before you post. Things like situational splits, the impact on a series, who is available all come into play. There is no way Francona with the pitchers he has going the next two nights should go to his bullpen early and therefore get into it deep. Were you on vacation when Tito had to go deep into the BP in night-day games with the Angels? Did you happen to notice that it effected the RS for the next three games?
BTW there were other guys beside Atch he could have used. The whole routine of the when the players do well they did well and when they don't it is manager who did not do well is a very narrow viewpoint IMO. Comforting that there is one person to blame for not winning any and every game but it is not very informed.
BTW whatever he did worked. He got to go deep into his opponents BP and stay away from his and got the W.