Re: Cardinals Will Not Pay Much for S. Drew
posted at 10/2/2013 9:54 AM EDT
In response to S5's comment:
In response to southpaw777's comment:
In response to maxbialystock's comment:
Boy, talk about a red herring. Who cares what the Cardinals offer Drew? Right now Drew was and is a smart acquisition by Ben Cherington. In 2012 Iglesias was the heir apparent to the SS slot if he could only hit a little, but in fact he seemed not to be able to hit at all. So Ben paid $9.5M to get a SS who today has a WAR of 3.2--compared to Iglesias's WAR of 0.4. But Ben hedged his bet by signing Drew to a one year contract, which mean Iglesias could easily have become the regular Sox SS in 2014 or sooner if injuries gave him a shot. As it turned out, Iglesias was hitting and snagged the 3B slot after Drew returned. Then two key things happened. The Sox were defintely contenders by the end of July, and Iglesias stopped hitting in July. Plus Drew had proven to be a very reliable SS in the field, to say nothing of Bogaerts, who can hit, standing in the wings to be the next Sox SS.
While I personally wanted to keep Iglesias simply because he is great fun to watch at SS regardless of his hitting, the deal for Peavy made all kinds of sense. Since the deal, Drew's OPS has been above .850, which is terrific for a SS, especially one who fields with such consistency. Peavy has definitely helped the rotation. Middlebrooks has returned to 3B and also hit well with an OPS since returning over .800. The Sox finished tied with the Cardinals with the most wins in MLB, 97, and with the home field advantage in the playoffs.
Given all of he above, redsoxfireman has decided to change the subject and discuss Drew's future value to another team and ignore the fact that retaining Drew or not is entirely Cherington's choice because he does have options, most notably Bogaerts at SS. And let's not forget that Detroit's old SS, suspended for using PED's, also has a much higher WAR than Iglesias. So next year Iglesias might find himself in a UIF role, which I hope does not happen.
Iggy has been pulled multiple times late in games by Leyland this year to be PH for. Come to your own conclusions.
I know you've been a torch-bearer for what a great trade this was right from the beginning, but at least don't start to be disingenous about it.
Iggy has been averaging >3PA/game ever since he got traded with 148 PA in 46 games. He's hitting .259 with an OPS of .654. Not setting the world on fire, but given the fact that he IS a light-hitting SS and the Tigers have power off the bench I'm not surprised that he gets PH for occasionally.
Peralta is ready to start the PO's in LF for the Tigers while Iggy is starting at SS so someone in that organization appreciates him.
I wanst trying to make this into an Iggy thread, just simply following up on the post I was responding to that Drew is the kind of hitter you want when the games on the line. Clutch, if you will. I simply said come to your own conclusions. When Leyland PH for him late in games multiple times, that says something to me. He knows this kid isnt a legit .280-.300 hitter year in and out. He knows he will probably get a GB from him rather than a hard line drive or a HR. Im not being disingenous about anything, just realistic. Would you rather have Iggy or Drew up with the game on the line and down a run or 2?