Re: Cardinals Will Not Pay Much for S. Drew
posted at 10/2/2013 7:51 PM EDT
In response to maxbialystock's comment:
redsoxfireman excels in revisionist history. Fact: the Sox liked Iglesias a lot, which is why they paid him $2 million a year to play minor league ball. Fact: Iglesias was lined up to be the starting SS in 2013 until he bombed in his call-up in 2012. So the Sox signed a one year veteran to hold down the fort--which he has done way better than anyone expected and earned every dime of his paycheck--until Iglesias could hit. Fact: with Drew as the regular shortstop and ranked 5th best in the AL, the Sox this year, 2013, engineered a spectacular turnaround from the disastrous 2012 season (which Iglesias contributed to) and won 97 games. Fact: as good as Iglesias might be, Drew this year has been demonstrably better. Prediction: Bogaerts is almost certain to have a higher WAR at SS than Iglesias next year, and Bogaerts is younger and cheaper.
Ironically, I always liked the idea of Iglesias as the Sox SS. He is a brilliant fielder and great fun to watch. And I for darn sure never thought Drew would amount to much. But by now it is clear to everyone except redsoxfireman that getting Drew was a smart move. He has been one of many keys to this season.
Trying to tie responses to two or three posts into this one...
1) Please do not tie my reasons for wanting Iggy in with Redsoxfireman's reasons. My desire to keep him had very little to do with this season and almost everything to do with the future. I said in an earlier thread that I see the best IF for 2012 as being (L>R) Middy, Drew, Pedey, Napoli. I was confident that Iggy's defense would earn him the starting SS role in 2014, and opinion that hasn't changed.
2) I agree completely that Bogart's WAR will be higher in any given year than Iggy's and it's because of the way WAR is calculated. WAR is an almost entirely offensive metric in that of the six components the first five are offense-related and the sixth is a positional adjustment. The positional adjustment is performed by adjusting the total of the first five by a given number depending on the player's position. In short, it assumes that one SS is as good as another and gives no weight to an outstanding defensive player over another at the same position, i.e. it assumes Bogarts and Iggy are equal defensively. They're not. But WAR by it's nature gives preference to the better offensive player. Which Bogarts is. hence, higher WAR for Bogarts.
3) I was asked if I'd rather have Iggy or Drew up with the team a couple of runs down. Of course it would be Drew, although I'm not sure how Drew got dragged into this. But the discussion isn't about Iggy vs. Drew. They don't evenplay on the same team any more. The discussion was about Iggy being pinch hit for by a member of the Tigers. Baseball is full of guys whom I'd rather have up than Iggy late in the game with the team a couple of runs down, along with several players on the Tigers as well as several players on the Red Sox. What that proves is that he's less liable to get an extra base hit than the guy who hits for him. No surprise there! To say that he's been pulled "multiple times" late in games and follow it up with, "draw your own conclusions" is.. well... disingenous and a somwhat snarky way of saying, "See how right I was?"
I'll say this one more time: I have absolutely no issue with the signing of Drew or Drew's role on the team. I do not believe that Iggy should be the SS in place of Drew. I believe that Iggy's role in 2013 should be that of UIF, with an opportunity to fight for the SS position in 2014.