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    Does anyone beside me, feel that Crawford does not play LF in Fenway very well? He let one go over his head and short-hop the wall last night, and another popped out of his glove but was fortunate to catch. He seems really timid out there and sometimes looks like Lupus catching a fly ball.

    I have given him the benefit of doubt about his early offensive struggles and although he homered and doubled last night, I just can't see him being consistent at the plate. A $22M player and Terry won't even play him agaisnt LHP.

    It's clear to me that he just can't play in the fishbowl called Fenway. The pressure to perform seems too much for him and it's likely he'll be traded unless he can get over his fears.
     
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    Huge bust, fielding and plate. Is playing better, but will do well to finish with an OBP over .300. Will do better next year, can't do worse.

    Essential to sell Ellsbury's 2 arbitration years and get a true star RH OF'er like Kemp. This OF is not balanced or strong.

     
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      I too have been disappointed with his defense, at times he seems lost out there, and too often he is hesitant about going after the ball, especially those hit over his head.
     
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    Does anyone beside me, feel that Crawford does not play LF in Fenway very well? He let one go over his head and short-hop the wall last night, and another popped out of his glove but was fortunate to catch. He seems really timid out there and sometimes looks like Lupus catching a fly ball. I have given him the benefit of doubt about his early offensive struggles and although he homered and doubled last night, I just can't see him being consistent at the plate. A $22M player and Terry won't even play him agaisnt LHP. It's clear to me that he just can't play in the fishbowl called Fenway. The pressure to perform seems too much for him and it's likely he'll be traded unless he can get over his fears.
    Posted by Alibiike


    "likely he'll be traded."

    good luck with that one. who, in their right mind is going to take over that
    overinflated contract. there's only one GM dumb enough to do that and, unfortunately, he's employed by the RED SOX.
     
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      I too have been disappointed with his defense, at times he seems lost out there, and too often he is hesitant about going after the ball, especially those hit over his head.
    Posted by attic-dan


    no bad theo signing goes unpunished.
     
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    If he can't get his OBP over 300 for the year, it's time to eat salary and send him packing
     
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    from the few times i've seen him, it looks like he forgets he has less room to go back than he did at the Trop, and therefore when he  pulls up, it's unsteady...
     
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    6/100 I could have lived with

    7/146 I can not

    I thought Theo had some model he used to price guys out and would never go above it?  I can just hear it now "He's worth a TICK ABOVE $21 million per year".......

     
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    cc is to good of an athlete. adjustments will come next year keep the faith!
     
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    His defense has been disappointing which is odd since it's not like he hasn't played in Fenway before.  At the plate, he has been performing near his career average since April for AVG and OBP (.289 and something like a .323 OBP) but with low really low XBH.  Obviously, expectations were high given the $$$ and everyone wanted to see a really hot month to make up for an awful April, but I will at least take some comfort that April was an aberration plus it isn't unusual to see a down year from a FA after signing a big contract.  I wasn't a fan of this signing when it happened but let's all cross our fingers and hope we see the old CC for the remainder of the year and into next.
     
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    CC though had foreshadowed that he was not a good fit for Fenway when he was a Tampa Ray. To this day, I just don't get that signing. You have a better version of him in CF. The team had AGON (lefty), Ortiz (lefty), Ellsbury (lefty), Drew (lefty), Salty (switch), Varitek (switch), Lowrie (switch), so naturally sign another lefty hitter. Then get a guy who proved he was inept in a small ballpark like Fenway as a defensive player. It was a recipe for what the Sox have been receiving from him. He is a lot better than what he has shown, but the defense could have been scouted as a bad fit in just looking at tapes of Sox v. Rays games at Fenway. If you have that many lefties in a lineup, you throw lefties and you can go to lefty specialists if you put them in row. A RH batter was needed, and this was quite evident.
     
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    albatross...............
     
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    The ESPN crew said he didn't want to hit the wall because it hurts. Fred Lynn got knocked out by the center field wall on one play as I recall (it's padded now, wasn't then).
     
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    You guys are tough.

    He started out really bad, but..

    He batted 305 in May and 275 in June before he got hurt.  He's struggled a little since coming back from the DL, batting just 250 since the all star break.

    CC will raise his season BA to 275 by October and play a major in the post season.  Next year, he'll hit .325.

    Left Field at Fenway is a bit of a challenge - not everyone can have the fielding prowess as Manny.
     
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    Even at the plate, if you look at his facial expression, it's not one of confidence.
    I really feel bad for him. he's trying so hard to live up to expectations and the pressure is self imposed.
     
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    Tough. He's not some kid learning to play the wall. He's the $22M signing and the ESPN crew suggests he's chicken of the wall.
     
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    111, I disagree about FA having a down year to start. Sox signings of Manny, Schilling, Foulke, Dice-K (who got worse later not earlier), Loretta, Millar (again strong first, worse later), Aceves are all guys who came right out of the shoot to help the Sox win. Crawford, Lugo, Renteria, and Lackey have been guys who haven't. 
     
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    In Response to CC in Left : "likely he'll be traded." good luck with that one. who, in their right mind is going to take over that overinflated contract. there's only one GM dumb enough to do that and, unfortunately, he's employed by the RED SOX.
    Posted by the___yazzer


    Crawford can flourish in a small-market area like Seattle or Pittsburgh. He was very good with TB.
     
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    But people forget Lugo did hit well in the playoffs (WS).
     
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    Not only that but Lugo played great D throughout the entire playoffs.  He worked on his foot work with infield coach (Luis Alicea?) and the extra work went a long way.
     
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    CC though had foreshadowed that he was not a good fit for Fenway when he was a Tampa Ray. To this day, I just don't get that signing. You have a better version of him in CF. The team had AGON (lefty), Ortiz (lefty), Ellsbury (lefty), Drew (lefty), Salty (switch), Varitek (switch), Lowrie (switch), so naturally sign another lefty hitter. Then get a guy who proved he was inept in a small ballpark like Fenway as a defensive player. It was a recipe for what the Sox have been receiving from him. He is a lot better than what he has shown, but the defense could have been scouted as a bad fit in just looking at tapes of Sox v. Rays games at Fenway. If you have that many lefties in a lineup, you throw lefties and you can go to lefty specialists if you put them in row. A RH batter was needed, and this was quite evident.
    Posted by dannycater
    You are right about the RH to a large extent. That would have been the ideal fit. But that guy's contract (Werth) is even harder to comprehend than CC's was.

    Now I have never been a huge fan of the signing and tried to figure it out once it was done because honestly I know the guys running the RS know more than I do.

    But what I have always gotten was the RS felt they had to do something about their 2011 OF. While I have always been high on Ellsbury, I certainly did not think he would display the power he has this year. A more reasonable projection would have been a .355 OBP with 10-12 HRs. And after that the table slanted very badly for the RS and that has been seen on the field with Drew's rapid decline, Mac returning to his AAAA form and age catching up with Cameron. This team needed an OFer and the FA market stunk last year and is even thinner this year. Reddick has been a pleasant surprise BUT is anybody noticing that Reddick is coming back to earth?

    So while I certainly can't argue the years and dollars I can see where the RS circumstances, desire to stay competitive and as importantly be compelling to their fanbase led them to CC. 

    So far the extreme LH slant of this team has not proven to be the issue many thought it would be. The RS record against LH contradicts it. Now a lot is the fact that Pedroia is no longer struggling with them, Ortiz has corrected his issues and while A-Gon's numbers aren't as good against LH, he is still a force regardless of which arm a pitcher uses.

    Inept defensively in Fenway is an over statement of broad proportions. What I see what appears to be the same thing we see at the plate which is an approach that certainly suggests the player is concerned about making mistakes. 

    Now I am surprised considering the number of games Crawford has played in Fenway that he approaches his OF play so conservatively still but of all the things about CC this isn't one I personally think will be cronic. We shuld keep in mind that Crawford has historically made the web gem plays but also has made some quizzical decisions in the field and on the bases.

    There is zero doubt in my mind however that RS Nation has found their next JD Drew and no matter what he does it won't match his contract. And unlike Drew, in the case of this contract, they will be right.
     


     
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    Millar came to the Sox in an odd trade with the Marlin, while he had signed with a Japanese team.
     
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    In Response to Re: CC in Left : You are right about the RH to a large extent. That would have been the ideal fit. But that guy's contract (Werth) is even harder to comprehend than CC's was. Now I have never been a huge fan of the signing and tried to figure it out once it was done because honestly I know the guys running the RS know more than I do. But what I have always gotten was the RS felt they had to do something about their 2011 OF. While I have always been high on Ellsbury, I certainly did not think he would display the power he has this year. A more reasonable projection would have been a .355 OBP with 10-12 HRs. And after that the table slanted very badly for the RS and that has been seen on the field with Drew's rapid decline, Mac returning to his AAAA form and age catching up with Cameron. This team needed an OFer and the FA market stunk last year and is even thinner this year. Reddick has been a pleasant surprise BUT is anybody noticing that Reddick is coming back to earth? So while I certainly can't argue the years and dollars I can see where the RS circumstances, desire to stay competitive and as importantly be compelling to their fanbase led them to CC.  So far the extreme LH slant of this team has not proven to be the issue many thought it would be. The RS record against LH contradicts it. Now a lot is the fact that Pedroia is no longer struggling with them, Ortiz has corrected his issues and while A-Gon's numbers aren't as good against LH, he is still a force regardless of which arm a pitcher uses. Inept defensively in Fenway is an over statement of broad proportions. What I see what appears to be the same thing we see at the plate which is an approach that certainly suggests the player is concerned about making mistakes.  Now I am surprised considering the number of games Crawford has played in Fenway that he approaches his OF play so conservatively still but of all the things about CC this isn't one I personally think will be cronic. We shuld keep in mind that Crawford has historically made the web gem plays but also has made some quizzical decisions in the field and on the bases. There is zero doubt in my mind however that RS Nation has found their next JD Drew and no matter what he does it won't match his contract. And unlike Drew, in the case of this contract, they will be right.  
    Posted by fivekatz


    Who wasn't right w/ Drew?  Theo and his "TICK ABOVE" propaganda?
     
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    Not only that but Lugo played great D throughout the entire playoffs.  He worked on his foot work with infield coach (Luis Alicea?) and the extra work went a long way.
    Posted by andrewmitch


    Absolutely, andy, and we rip Lugo and Drew, but they did things that helped the team win the WS. They just didn't match their contracts over the long haul and were not what the Sox had hoped when they signed both. That's why many of us are so frustrated by Crawford and Lackey. But in their cases, they have either time to actually help the team, or they can go down as worse signings than these two. Drew and Lugo at least have rings to their account.
     
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