Re: CERA again
posted at 12/19/2011 12:42 PM EST
In Response to Re: CERA again
[QUOTE]I've thought about why Shoppach though instead of Veritek. They both are better hitters against RH pitching. If anything, Veritek is a better hitter. The major difference between the 2 is the CS percentage. It wasn't just the percentage, it's the volume. It was something like 71 steal attempts wasn't it approximately in few innings caught as the back up. Other teams just ran on him constantly. Our pichers had to compensate for Tek's inability to throw runners out and they couldn't. They couldn't? Then why the much better ERA with VTek rather than Salty, VMart, Kottaras, etc...? Then why the 42-22 record with VTek and 48-50 with the others? Seems like the "compensated" just fine. BTW, Shoppach has been a better hitter vs LHPs than VTek the last 3 years combined. More importantly, I see Bobby V going more with a L-R platoon than Tito's "personal caddy" nonsense platoon. That increases the hitting value of Keely over Jason. Add the much better arm, and his experience, and I think that's the answer he's here and not VTek. I also think Sox management may not value CERA related aspects of a catcher's skillset as much as some do. CERA is far from a perfect stat, even if used correctly. Often times the individual sample sizes with each pitcher are too small, have too high a differential in IP, or don't take into account that pitchers have slumps and high points throughout the season that may not be associated with who is catching them. For example, some pitchers are notorious slow starters, if a guy like VTek caught most of those innings, then say mid season we traded for someone like VMart who began catching most of the innings after the slow start, the comparative CERA and other related numbers could be skewed in favor of VMart.
Posted by moonslav59[/QUOTE]
I kind of wanted the cash!
We will never know now Moon. Remember it did take big odds for me to bite on this so that should tell you I agree with you! Just not as emphatically!
I did say that Tek was a better hitter, not a better hitter against RH pitching. Shoppach will still get 50% of his AB against RH pitching even in a severe platoon, and he hit around .111 last year against them if I remember correctly and hasn't hit above .214 in 3 years. He's a pretty bad hitter guys!
Even worse than Tek.
The team won with Tek but Beckett might have had something to do with that and he was the back up, meaning that he was probably inserted more often against mediocre competition.
I looked it up and Veritek actually had 85 stolen base attempts on him in roughly the same number of innings as Shoppach, who had 44 attempts. Everyone ran on Veritek.
Wow, Salty had 26 PB last year. And couldn't block 41 WP. 120 stolen base attempts on him. Shoppach probably does better than both of these guys in those departments. If Lavarnway is a bad defensive catcher, could he be much worse than the above? He'd have to be pretty bad guys! (maybe he is, I don't know)!