Re: Cleveland trades Choo to Reds
posted at 12/12/2012 2:23 PM EST
In response to Iceman4's comment:
In response to moonslav59's comment:
..this TEAM only won 69 games last year...something needs to change. The inactivity can also be frustrating...especially on pitching front.
This team has coninually relied on the hope that all our starters will have career average or better seasons at the same time. It just never seems to happen that way with this team. Injuries, pitchers like Beckett with their odd/even year proclivities, and changing pitching coaches hasn't helped.
Here are the pitchers we have signed or traded for and started over the past few years:
Morales-9 (traded for in 2011)
A Miller 12
E Bedard 8
Byrd 6 (was here the first time in 2008)
Schilling 24 (was here in 2006)
Tavarez 23 (was here in 2005)
Since Dice-K in 2007, only Lackey was a serious attempt to upgrade our rotation from outside the system.
exactly........there is no doubt about it....current crop of FA are terrible....but we have had oppurtunities...I'm not jumping off the bandwagon but for Kimsaysthis not to think we can't be frustrated with the lack of activity is wrong. I"m not saying we have to resort to venom as some do, but I for one am sick of the lack of real attempts at improving the pitching ...this year and in prior years. A team that contends like the Red Sox should always be trying to negotiate to pick up Aces...I'm not saying that it will succeed all the time but when someone like a CC or a whomever is available, we should not be looking at the likes of Penny and Smoltz....
The Lackey attemot was legitimate, but just didn't work out right. Perhaps, that signing scared top management, but the fact remains: since the Dice-K signing in 2007, we have gone 5 seasons with just one bold move (Lackey). Our pitching has got worse and worse, but nothing has changed.
(Except for the 2009 blip, our WHIP has gotten worse every year since 2007, and our ERA had gotten a half a run worse each of the last 2 years.)
Trying to change the rotation by obtaining better #5 type starters than what we had the year before will never work out, and we've actually failed at even improving our #5 often than not as well.
It's not "all about pitching", but you can't finish in last place, have a starter ERA over 5.00, do nothing about fixing the rotation other than have Lackey return and expect to be highly competitive the next year. It's a fantasy.