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posted at 4/16/2012 11:57 AM EDT
The Red Sox are stuck with Lackey's contract. it's a waste of
money. Period.
But wait a minute... The Governor of New York should Declared
the Yanks payroll a disaster zone. Even with Madoff's money,
it's so painful to pay these high salaries for these over the hill,
declining players.
Mark Teixeira. $23 millio dollars
A-Rob. $30 million dollars
D.Jeter. $15 million dollars
C.C. Sabathia. $24 million dollars.
By the way... how old is Raul Ibanez ? he looks older than
Telly Savalas.
Re: We're stuck with John Lackey,- but the Yanks Payroll should be Declared a Disaster Zone
posted at 4/16/2012 11:59 AM EDT
- heobrien
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We're stuck with John Lackey,- but the Yanks Payroll should be Declared a Disaster Zone:
The Red Sox are stuck with Lackey's contract. it's a waste of money. Period. But wait a minute... The Governor of New York should Declared the Yanks payroll a disaster zone. Even with Madoff's money, it's so painful to pay these high salaries for these over the hill, declining players. Mark Teixeira. $23 millio dollars A-Rob. $30 million dollars D.Jeter. $15 million dollars C.C. Sabathia. $24 million dollars. By the way... how old is Raul Ibanez ? he looks older than Telly Savalas.
Posted by BenitoMyHero
He didn't look that old blasting the HR off the upper deck last night.
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Re: We're stuck with John Lackey,- but the Yanks Payroll should be Declared a Disaster Zone
posted at 4/16/2012 12:23 PM EDT
Call in FEMA
Re: We're stuck with John Lackey,- but the Yanks Payroll should be Declared a Disaster Zone
posted at 4/16/2012 12:49 PM EDT
- LloydDobler
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With six people having died from tornadoes in the Midwest over the weekend, maybe we should pick and choose the use of "disaster zone" with more sensitivity.
Re: We're stuck with John Lackey,- but the Yanks Payroll should be Declared a Disaster Zone
posted at 4/16/2012 12:54 PM EDT
- Chilliwings
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We're stuck with John Lackey,- but the Yanks Payroll should be Declared a Disaster Zone:
The Red Sox are stuck with Lackey's contract. it's a waste of money. Period.
Posted by BenitoMyHero
You don't know that. He was a decent pitcher for years pre-2010. Even including his poor 2010-2011 seasons his career 162 game average is 15-11 4.10. Obviously 2011 and most likely 2010 (as the Sox knew about it) were affected by his elbow problem which will hopefully be fixed. We will have him back for his age 34,35 and possibly 36 seasons with a reconstructed elbow and, hopefully, a chip on his shoulder to prove he can be what he was for so many years. If he can, we'll pay him 31 million dollars for 45 wins....that'd be fine by me.
Re: We're stuck with John Lackey,- but the Yanks Payroll should be Declared a Disaster Zone
posted at 4/16/2012 12:56 PM EDT
- sporter81
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no salary cap in baseball, the yankees don't care about money. they will be ok like always.
Re: We're stuck with John Lackey,- but the Yanks Payroll should be Declared a Disaster Zone
posted at 4/16/2012 1:00 PM EDT
- b12696
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Sabathia, over the hill... really?
Re: We're stuck with John Lackey,- but the Yanks Payroll should be Declared a Disaster Zone
posted at 4/16/2012 1:00 PM EDT
- ZILLAGOD
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"Even with Madoff's money..."
It's the Mets that are tied in with Bernie Madoff, not the Yankees.
Re: We're stuck with John Lackey,- but the Yanks Payroll should be Declared a Disaster Zone
posted at 4/16/2012 1:08 PM EDT
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"Even with Madoff's money..." It's the Mets that are tied in with Bernie Madoff, not the Yankees.
Posted by ZILLAGOD
I meant /> even with easy money. Ok ?
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posted at 4/16/2012 1:26 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: We're stuck with John Lackey,- but the Yanks Payroll should be Declared a Disaster Zone : I meant /> even with easy money. Ok ?
Posted by BenitoMyHero
Kind of hard to throw stones at New York when the Henry era Red Sox and now the Angels, Detroit and most of the big market / money teams in baseball are using the Yankee model as the standard operating procedure.
The Sox used Henry' money to buy their way to two championships There is no denying this. We complain that the Yankees are vile, they buy championships but the only way to compete with them is to do as they do.
Kind of like the way Obama used Romneycare as his model and now Romney says it's different...different how?
We have millions of dollars sitting on the DL. Ellsbury has another boo-boo which Boras has probably instructed him should be a seaon-ending injury like his 2010 fractured ribs took him out for whole year.
We have some real beauts on our team also, I wouldn't be singling out the Yankees, the rest of MLB is no prize either. It should be called MLB all right....Money League Baseball.
Re: We're stuck with John Lackey,- but the Yanks Payroll should be Declared a Disaster Zone
posted at 4/16/2012 1:42 PM EDT
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Re: We're stuck with John Lackey,- but the Yanks Payroll should be Declared a Disaster Zone:
In Response to Re: We're stuck with John Lackey,- but the Yanks Payroll should be Declared a Disaster Zone : Kind of hard to throw stones at New York when the Henry era Red Sox and now the Angels, Detroit and most of the big market / money teams in baseball are using the Yankee model as the standard operating procedure. The Sox used Henry' money to buy their way to two championships There is no denying this. We complain that the Yankees are vile, they buy championships but the only way to compete with them is to do as they do. Kind of like the way Obama used Romneycare as his model and now Romney says it's different...different how? We have millions of dollars sitting on the DL. Ellsbury has another boo-boo which Boras has probably instructed him should be a seaon-ending injury like his 2010 fractured ribs took him out for whole year. We have some real beauts on our team also, I wouldn't be singling out the Yankees, the rest of MLB is no prize either. It should be called MLB all right....Money League Baseball.
Posted by ZILLAGOD
I am assuming that you're a pretending Sox fan.
Am I right ?
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Re: We're stuck with John Lackey,- but the Yanks Payroll should be Declared a Disaster Zone
posted at 4/16/2012 3:08 PM EDT
In Response to
We're stuck with John Lackey,- but the Yanks Payroll should be Declared a Disaster Zone:
The Red Sox are stuck with Lackey's contract. it's a waste of money. Period. But wait a minute... The Governor of New York should Declared the Yanks payroll a disaster zone. Even with Madoff's money, it's so painful to pay these high salaries for these over the hill, declining players. Mark Teixeira. $23 millio dollars A-Rob. $30 million dollars D.Jeter. $15 million dollars C.C. Sabathia. $24 million dollars. By the way... how old is Raul Ibanez ? he looks older than Telly Savalas.
Posted by BenitoMyHero
Wondering? Are the Sox paying Lackey, CC, DiceK and anyone else's non-productive salaries at present? And those Yanks you mentioned are still productive players, are they not? See if you tally up all the wasted absentee salaries being doled out by the Sox right now. Curious mind won't to know. Need to see a number to see if the pre mentioned wages are validated.
Re: We're stuck with John Lackey,- but the Yanks Payroll should be Declared a Disaster Zone
posted at 4/16/2012 3:18 PM EDT
I think both teams have made some very dumb moves, but Benito doesn't have a clue. Either that or he has something he should be sharing with the rest of us.
Re: We're stuck with John Lackey,- but the Yanks Payroll should be Declared a Disaster Zone
posted at 4/16/2012 3:26 PM EDT
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Re: We're stuck with John Lackey,- but the Yanks Payroll should be Declared a Disaster Zone
posted at 4/16/2012 3:38 PM EDT
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Re: We're stuck with John Lackey,- but the Yanks Payroll should be Declared a Disaster Zone:
I think both teams have made some very dumb moves, but Benito doesn't have a clue. Either that or he has something he should be sharing with the rest of us.
Posted by ChronicNYY13
Yes, but the Yanks are the king above all kings.
Re: We're stuck with John Lackey,- but the Yanks Payroll should be Declared a Disaster Zone
posted at 4/16/2012 3:39 PM EDT
- jesseyeric
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In Response to Re: We're stuck with John Lackey,- but the Yanks Payroll should be Declared a Disaster Zone : Yes, but the Yanks are the king above all kings.
Posted by BenitoMyHero
Finally, you admit it.
Re: We're stuck with John Lackey,- but the Yanks Payroll should be Declared a Disaster Zone
posted at 4/16/2012 3:55 PM EDT
- ZILLAGOD
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In Response to
Re: We're stuck with John Lackey,- but the Yanks Payroll should be Declared a Disaster Zone:
In Response to We're stuck with John Lackey,- but the Yanks Payroll should be Declared a Disaster Zone : Wondering? Are the Sox paying Lackey, CC, DiceK and anyone else's non-productive salaries at present? And those Yanks you mentioned are still productive players, are they not? See if you tally up all the wasted absentee salaries being doled out by the Sox right now. Curious mind won't to know. Need to see a number to see if the pre mentioned wages are validated.
Posted by GEAUX-TIGRES
This is my point exactly.
Yes, the Yankees have spent lots of money in an effort to buy their way into postseason. Yes, it is not the way we as fans would like to see sports teams operate. But, instead of isolating them as the wrong example, the teams that can afford to spend big $$$ on free agents follow suit and copy the "Yankee way" of building ( buying ) a team.
There was a time when you could say they are"evil" for operating in this manner. That time is past history as the latest big spenders have saddled themselves with ridiculous contracts on players who can never deliver for the full life of the contracts. The Reds, Brewers ,Texas, Angels and Detroit are all using the free agent market to "buy" their way into postseason....it is not wrong anymore to do this. It is despicable and distasteful, but it is the way of Major League Baseball. They want a sport full of overpaid, under acheivers who can never live up to crazy money and long term deals. They allowed it to get out of control. Yes, the Yankees started it with Catfish Hunter , way back when, but now every team with enough revenue is trying to outbid and outspend the other guy.
This is why you see watered-down , subpar baseball. Too much money is spent on individual players and then teams are forced to round out the roster with guys who would normally be in AAA, they think a superstar can win games all by himself...they are wrong , teams and team work wins games. Big salaries promote a bunch of bigshots who are constantly trying to pad their stats, in a bid to sign the next big contract...these guys don't give a rats @55 about winning ballgames. We have two of them on our team, Ellsbury and Beckett. They have one good season and live off the glory for the next 4 years or more.
Re: We're stuck with John Lackey,- but the Yanks Payroll should be Declared a Disaster Zone
posted at 4/16/2012 4:09 PM EDT
- Chilliwings
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It's worth noting that the Yankees have been spending a lot of money since the mid-70s with two periods of notable success: the late 70s and the hugely successful late-90s/00. The latter period was driven more by homegrown players or those acquired in trade than by big money free agents or salary-driven acquisitions.
Re: We're stuck with John Lackey,- but the Yanks Payroll should be Declared a Disaster Zone
posted at 4/16/2012 7:14 PM EDT
In Response to;
We're stuck with John Lackey,- but the Yanks Payroll should be Declared a Disaster Zone:
The Red Sox are stuck with Lackey's contract. it's a waste of money. Period. But wait a minute... The Governor of New York should Declared the Yanks payroll a disaster zone. Even with Madoff's money, it's so painful to pay these high salaries for these over the hill, declining players. Mark Teixeira. $23 millio dollars A-Rob. $30 million dollars D.Jeter. $15 million dollars C.C. Sabathia. $24 million dollars. By the way... how old is Raul Ibanez ? he looks older than Telly Savalas.
Posted by BenitoMyHero
Re: We're stuck with John Lackey,- but the Yanks Payroll should be Declared a Disaster Zone
posted at 4/16/2012 7:53 PM EDT
In response to "Re: We're stuck with John Lackey,- but the Yanks Payroll should be Declared a Disaster Zone":
Benito is an imposter who was invented by a Yankee troll who wanted to make the forum more of a pizzing contest. If you don't know that by now then you must be very gullible and also blind.
Posted by Calzone65
You may be right, but where is the real smiley?
Re: We're stuck with John Lackey,- but the Yanks Payroll should be Declared a Disaster Zone
posted at 4/16/2012 7:56 PM EDT
- NHBALLFAN
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Re: We're stuck with John Lackey,- but the Yanks Payroll should be Declared a Disaster Zone:
It's worth noting that the Yankees have been spending a lot of money since the mid-70s with two periods of notable success: the late 70s and the hugely successful late-90s/00. The latter period was driven more by homegrown players or those acquired in trade than by big money free agents or salary-driven acquisitions.
Posted by Chilliwings
late '90s/00? The Yanks won the WS in '96, '98, '99 and 2000.
Re: We're stuck with John Lackey,- but the Yanks Payroll should be Declared a Disaster Zone
posted at 4/16/2012 10:30 PM EDT
- stodknocker
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Re: We're stuck with John Lackey,- but the Yanks Payroll should be Declared a Disaster Zone:
With six people having died from tornadoes in the Midwest over the weekend, maybe we should pick and choose the use of "disaster zone" with more sensitivity.
Posted by LloydDobler
Calm down Lloyd. That's a pretty common term to use. Let's not get all sensitive and what not.....wouldn't want to see you standing outside someone's window with a boom box above your head or anything...
