Re: C'mon, FO. Make a decision!
posted at 11/11/2012 12:01 PM EST
In response to Soxdog67's comment:
In response to S5's comment:
I''m back from a day of chasing football games to defend my postion on Bogarts moving from SS to 1st. And thanks to those of you who took up the cause in my absence. :-)
I'm a big fan of looking at something, seeing if it works, and if it does don't mess with it.
In this case I see Bogarts as being (defensively) blocked by Iggy. If Iggy can hit even .220 keeping him there is a no-brainer in my book making no room for Bogarts. The problem then becomes Bogarts and what to do with him. Not a bad problem to have, btw.
Middlebrooks is "working" at 3rd with adequate defense and better than adequate offense. Yes, he could be moved to 1st but to what end? I see it as an unnecessary move. Do what's necessary and don't disturb what's working.
Move Bogarts to the OF? Meh. Ok. I just don't see the upside to it when there are already proven OF's who can either be kept or had. Which leaves 1st base. As I opined before, I have little to no respect for the defensive capabilites of the average 1st baseman but huge respect for the good ones... like Teix (Ok, Zac? :-) ). The good ones need to be able to be quick enough to handle shots down the line and at the same time be able to handle balls in the dirt and all around them. Like a guy who can play 3rd, which is where some people want to move Bogarts. At the same time it's pretty hard to dispute the argument that his arm is wasted there, but I'll waste that arm if it means keeping his offense in the lineup.
And with all due respect to whomever said it, the argument of, "Nobody's ever done it before" doesn't do much for me. I can remember when players never lifted weights because it would make them "tight". I can remember when nobody had a dedicated closer, and I can remember when sabermetrics was considered a waste of time because scouts could do it all.
Things change. Baseball changes with the times. The fact that "nobody's done it" isn't necessarly a good reason not to be the first because it shows little confidence in your own thinking ability. Ask Billy Beane.
And notice that I never advocated throwing him into the fray immediately at 1st. I said give him time in the Minors to learn to play 1st. Obviously if for some reason he can't do it - he can't - and he either gets traded as a SS or moved to the outfield.
Nice dissertation S5, but I still am adverse to the idea, despite your indicating that it doesn't matter that it hasn't happened before...with your logic I recommend we move Bogaerts to catcher then...hey if he has the arm to play SS why not catch...if we want to screw up the kid and make his offense suffer by moving him to 1st, let's really screw him up by moving him to catcher...all this to accommodate another banjo hitting SS prospect.
Regarding your justification of 1B and their abilities, non-athletic types like Fielder, Gonzalez etc can handle the chores at 1B, why, because they don't need to have any range to play that position. Maybe that is the reason most big lummoxes that can hit the ball a mile end up at 1B.
Sorry but in my personal opinion, moving a kid like Bogaerts to 1B would be an extremely bad idea. Unlless I am mistaken the Sox still have a need to fill the SS position long term...plus I am not a member of the Julio/Jose Iglesias bandwagon.
care to explain how playing 1st base makes your offense suffer?