We are having some good times with the kids, Middlebrooks, Nava..let's keep them going and make a trade for Hamels instead. Youk maybe?
Cole Hamels
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Cole Hamels
posted at 5/13/2012 10:10 PM EDT
- bruinsGENIUS
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Blue Jays are trying to get him. That would make them better than they already are. And Brett Lawrie at 3rd..what a stud! -
Re: Cole Hamels
posted at 5/13/2012 10:17 PM EDT
- jrh1194
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In Response to Cole Hamels:Blue Jays are trying to get him. That would make them better than they already are. And Brett Lawrie at 3rd..what a stud! We are having some good times with the kids, Middlebrooks, Nava..let's keep them going and make a trade for Hamels instead. Youk maybe?
Posted by bruinsGENIUS
I wouldn't mind seeing Hamels in a Sox uniform. We certainly won't get him for Youk. The Phillies would laugh at that unless we included alot more. -
Re: Cole Hamels
posted at 5/13/2012 11:06 PM EDT
- mef429
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eat most of youks contract, give 'em anderson and another player (idk who) for hamels. they don't have anyone good at 1st or 3rd so youk + anderson would fill those voids plus another good player to sweeten the deal and push us past the blue jays.. -
Re: Cole Hamels
posted at 5/13/2012 11:15 PM EDT
- RSF4Life234
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Im not sure Hamels would be much better then what we already have, although he does pitch well in a hitters ball park. -
Re: Cole Hamels
posted at 5/13/2012 11:44 PM EDT
- parhunter55
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Youk, Beckett, Morales and cash, for Hamels and Laynce Nix. Phillies get a starter to replace Hamels, a reliever to help get to Papelbon (a desperate need for them) and an offensive upgrade for their beleaguered infield.
Sox get rid of their biggest problem and upgrade their rotation, and the Sox get a LFer with OBP and some power to help the depth in their beleaguered OF.
It won't happen, but I wish it could.
BTW, Hamels is 5-1 with an ERA around 2.25. How is that not a guaranteed upgrade over what we have? -
Re: Cole Hamels
posted at 5/14/2012 1:52 AM EDT
- redsoxpride34
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would love to get hamels but no way we get him for youk. We would have to include youk plus some legit prospects. Youk, ranuado, + one more legit prospect could get a deal done. -
Re: Cole Hamels
posted at 5/14/2012 8:40 AM EDT
- seannybboi
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In Response to Cole Hamels:Blue Jays are trying to get him. That would make them better than they already are. And Brett Lawrie at 3rd..what a stud! We are having some good times with the kids, Middlebrooks, Nava..let's keep them going and make a trade for Hamels instead. Youk maybe?
Posted by bruinsGENIUS
If Phillies and Jays agree to trade Hamels, then Brett Lawrie is going to the Phillies. He has to be the main part of this trade. -
Re: Cole Hamels
posted at 5/14/2012 8:53 AM EDT
- iamme17
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hamel's may be a 3 month rental but does anyone actually believe they would let him go for a broken down youk making 12 million,a headcase like beckett owed 40 million and a player nobody knows.The phill's are at their 170 million payroll limit...it's gonna be young ELITE studs or they'll resign him themselves and take the luxury tax hit. -
Re: Cole Hamels
posted at 5/14/2012 8:54 AM EDT
- BurritoT
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In Response to Cole Hamels:Blue Jays are trying to get him. That would make them better than they already are. And Brett Lawrie at 3rd..what a stud! We are having some good times with the kids, Middlebrooks, Nava..let's keep them going and make a trade for Hamels instead. Youk maybe?
Posted by bruinsGENIUSI never listen to hippies. -
Re: Cole Hamels
posted at 5/14/2012 9:19 AM EDT
- GoUconn13
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Dont we have too many lefties in the starting rotation?Boston just need a young future right handed pitcher who can be the #1 or #2 of the staff. Beckett is starting to become the bottom of the rotation pitcher.Time to rebuild the starting rotation.Hamels is about the same as Lester. Maybe Boston can trade Droubmont for him. But I like Doubmont so far!!So it is not worth to go after Hamels. Go after a guy like Felix or like that!! -
Re: Cole Hamels
posted at 5/14/2012 9:38 AM EDT
- ChronicNYY13
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He is heading to NY. -
Re: Cole Hamels
posted at 5/14/2012 9:44 AM EDT
- jrh1194
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In Response to Re: Cole Hamels:He is heading to NY.
Posted by ChronicNYY13
Doubtful. The Yankees don't have anything better to offer than the Sox. The Phillies won't settle for broken down veterans in exchange for Hamels. -
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Re: Cole Hamels
posted at 5/14/2012 11:34 AM EDT
- fourrings
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In Response to Cole Hamels:Blue Jays are trying to get him. That would make them better than they already are. And Brett Lawrie at 3rd..what a stud! We are having some good times with the kids, Middlebrooks, Nava..let's keep them going and make a trade for Hamels instead. Youk maybe?
Posted by bruinsGENIUS
Youk for Hamels, are you on the needle? Phillies never do that deal lol -
Re: Cole Hamels
posted at 5/14/2012 11:35 AM EDT
- fourrings
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In Response to Re: Cole Hamels:Youk, Beckett, Morales and cash, for Hamels and Laynce Nix. Phillies get a starter to replace Hamels, a reliever to help get to Papelbon (a desperate need for them) and an offensive upgrade for their beleaguered infield. Sox get rid of their biggest problem and upgrade their rotation, and the Sox get a LFer with OBP and some power to help the depth in their beleaguered OF. It won't happen, but I wish it could. BTW, Hamels is 5-1 with an ERA around 2.25. How is that not a guaranteed upgrade over what we have?
Posted by parhunter55
at least this proposal is somewhat realistic -
Re: Cole Hamels
posted at 5/14/2012 11:39 AM EDT
- 86redsox
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over the hill,clubhouse cancer,so so reliever. Whta's not to like? -
Re: Cole Hamels
posted at 5/14/2012 11:45 AM EDT
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In Response to Re: Cole Hamels:He is heading to NY.
Posted by ChronicNYY13
The entitled Yankee fan base has spoken once again.
Can't buy Hamels til the 2012 season is over Yankee fan. -
Re: Cole Hamels
posted at 5/14/2012 12:49 PM EDT
- ChronicNYY13
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In Response to Re: Cole Hamels:In Response to Re: Cole Hamels : Doubtful. The Yankees don't have anything better to offer than the Sox. The Phillies won't settle for broken down veterans in exchange for Hamels.
Posted by jrh1194
I think you are probably right, but I do find it funny how all the Yanks are broken down geezers. They must be in last place with no hope. Maybe they should sign Obama, he could fix everything for them.What is Youk and Beckett??? They must be just entering their primes? You must be in first with no goal too lofty, esp when Lackey and Dice-K is back. -
Re: Cole Hamels
posted at 5/14/2012 2:51 PM EDT
- KRomine
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I always laugh when people drool over getting NATIONAL League pitchers.
Can anyone here name me ONE pitcher NOT named Pedro Martinez that had extended success in the AL after spending their entire career in the NL. Schilling doesn't count. He had one great season. Beckett only had 2 -
Re: Cole Hamels
posted at 5/14/2012 3:03 PM EDT
- MadMc44
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I would offer Middlebrooks even up for Hamels and if given 72 hours to negotiate a contract I would include a PTBNL within 72 hours of signing--Buchholz or Dice.The Jays would have to part with Lawrie who I like very much although I would take Middlebrooks power potential over Lawrie. I like the fact that Lawrie has been a catcher and could be a #3 catcher in an emergency. -
Re: Cole Hamels
posted at 5/14/2012 3:51 PM EDT
- tomnev
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In Response to Re: Cole Hamels:I would offer Middlebrooks even up for Hamels and if given 72 hours to negotiate a contract I would include a PTBNL within 72 hours of signing--Buchholz or Dice. The Jays would have to part with Lawrie who I like very much although I would take Middlebrooks power potential over Lawrie. I like the fact that Lawrie has been a catcher and could be a #3 catcher in an emergency.
Posted by MadMc44
Middlebrooks and Buchholz is way too much to give up for Hamels. Granted hamels is a big upgrade over Buch. Buch is 27, Hamels is 28, but Hamels has been pitching in the NL and Buch in the AL Beast....I can't see the upgrade being worth your teasm Top rated prospect. -
Re: Cole Hamels
posted at 5/14/2012 4:21 PM EDT
- MadMc44
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It would be tough facing him in pinstripes if he gets to the open market.Next season we will probably be minus Dice, Youk and perhaps Papi and I would say Beckett in all likelihood. That's over $50 M in payroll potentially off the books.Granted you could move Aceves into the rotation to go with Lester, Bard, Douby and Lackey. The pen might be solid with Bailey, Melancon, Morales, Miller, Hill, Atch and Padilla.It would be nice having Hamels in that rotation even if it meant three lefty's. That would be a nice problem to have going into the Stadium three times a year. -
Re: Cole Hamels
posted at 5/14/2012 4:43 PM EDT
- slomag
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In Response to Re: Cole Hamels:I always laugh when people drool over getting NATIONAL League pitchers. Can anyone here name me ONE pitcher NOT named Pedro Martinez that had extended success in the AL after spending their entire career in the NL. Schilling doesn't count. He had one great season. Beckett only had 2
Posted by KRomineNolan Ryan? David Cone? Bob Welch? -
Re: Cole Hamels
posted at 5/14/2012 4:57 PM EDT
- slomag
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I don't see Hamels as a realistic target for 2012. How can the Phillies be sellers at the break - this team won 102 games last year.I'd love to see Hamels as a target this off-season though. -
Re: Cole Hamels
posted at 5/14/2012 5:00 PM EDT
- parhunter55
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You are all acting like Hamels is locked up for the next 3 or 4 years. IF the Philles trade him, it is because they do not think they can resign him. Considering how they throw money around to guys they want (see Papelbon) that would be a pretty good indication that Hamels is insistent on testing free agency.
I'm not saying it could or would happen, but Youk, who can be signed up for another year at team option, and Beckett, who is signed for 3 years, and a decent reliever (when they have none, other than the aforementioned Papelbon) would be a fair deal for a 4 1/2 month rental. Especially since the Phillies need some power in their lineup and to shore up their bullpen. Beckett would be a downgrade, but that would be the price they pay to upgrade at two other spots. Meanwhile, Nix is not even listed on their major league depth chart.
Youk, Beckett, Morales and cash for Hamels and Nix. I stand by that being a decent, if implausible, trade proposal.