Re: Needle marked Colon?
posted at 7/3/2011 10:28 AM EDT
In Response to Re: Needle marked Colon?
"Well, if everything IS legit, who's taking a chance on a guy who was just the first potcher ever to get a given surgery? No-bod-y." Is that English? Because I'm not getting it. "I guess Ortiz/Mueller/Millar in 04 don't count?" I was tjhinking more in terms od recent history, .. like Penny Smoltz, Gagne and Jenks. "Also, sorry if all our "low risk" players come from outstanding drafting..." Like who? Who on the current 25 man ML roster that is making a contributution? Scutaro, .. no that doesn't count. Camron, .. no not him either besides he was just thrown overbaord. "... rather than praying on someone else's garbage." Are you refering to half the RS bull pen or their bench? "Are you a Steinbrenner?" No, but my name is Harold, ... does that count?
Posted by heobrien
Wording was slightly clumsy, but I fail to see how you can't understand, unless you're still trying to figure out what a 'potcher' is. I meant 'pitcher'. And I guess I'll spell it out for you: Assume Colon's surgery was all legit...just assume for a moment, as you're so quick to assume the opposite. Now, assuming that, what team would really want to take a chance on a fat pitcher who hasn't performed for a few years? Add in him being the first patient to get this surgery, and you can pretty much guarantee he would have never gotten a chance with any team he actually wanted to play for. I hope that helps you understand.
As for the second point...Ellsbury, Pedroia, Buccholz, Lester, Bard, Papelbon, Reddick...and the drafting led to the ability to trade for Adrian Gonzalez. As for others who were scrap parts, how about Saltalamachia? I know, he's no .223 hitting Martin, and is one half of arguably the most effective catching tandem in baseball. Andrew Miller? Only two starts so far, about a 3 ERA. Alfredo Aceves? He's been a solid contributor (and who's heap did they pick him up off???). Matt Albers, his sub 3 ERA, 28 Ks in 30+ innings?
Yeah, so the whole system has failed because of Cameron and Jenks. How's Soriano doing anyway?