Damon part II: Ellsbury close to a deal with the Yankees

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    LOL!!!  Is anybody actually mad at this deal?  This cripples the Yankees for years.  $150M+ for a player who relies on speed and will be in his 30's throughout the whole contract?  When will they ever learn?

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    Forget the money. 

    The yankees now have an excellent CF for the next 3 seasons - they will worry about years 4 - 7 later.

    Meanwhile the Sox have no CF and Beltran is signing with the Royals. 

    Victorino in CF is not a good option; especially if injuries are a concern

     

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    I would think a big deal is in the works via trade.  Ben isn't dumb.  The farm is loaded with talent and he wasn't going to spend 150M+ on a center fielder in his 30s whose dominant attribute is speed.  I can see why people are worried but I would advise that people be patient.  In Ben I Trust!

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    loaded with talent? like maybe one or two guys but tell me how the Sox are loaded with talent in their farm system

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    Gee, I thought Bogaerts, JBJ, Ranaudo, Webster, Owens, Swihart, Vazquez, Cecchini, Betts, Barnes, Brentz, etc etc were notable prospects?  No?

     
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    As far as I know, John Henry has as much, or more , money as does Steinbrenner.  But I think it is wonderful that we have so many posters trying to save him money . I am sure he deeply appreciates it.

     

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    Gale, would you have wanted the Sox to sign him to that contract? Crawford was a lesson learned, the hard way, no? 

     

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    It is not just about this deal. So many posters on here are always trying to economize. Always trying to play small market G.M.  This is not a small market. It costs money to sign the top players. The Sox have the money. There will always be flops like Crawford , but that should not deter them.

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    I dont think it's about economizing, as much as BIG contracts that will put the organization in a strangle hold and keeps them from moving forward. 

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    Sure, but why is that we have to worry about those things , and the Yankees don't ?  That is why the Yankees are never down for long and have 27 championships despite a mediocre farm system.  They are never hesitant to spend. They are not concerned about a draft choice.  Long range plans are for the small markets.

     
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    Yanks could really screw with Sox by signing Napoli tomorrow

     
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    Say it ain't so, Jacoby Cry

     
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    I'm half joking....but that is a lineup to dream on.

    Nava

    Pedroia

    Cano

    Ortiz

    Bogaerts

    Victorino

    Middlebrooks

    Jbj

    AJP.

     
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    I have to believe that the Sox have a plan to trade for a CF or get Beltran

     
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    Re: Damon part II: Ellsbury close to a deal with the Yankees

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    F it.....let's sign Cano, put him at third and move Middlebrooks to first.

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    The last thing a Front Office wants to do is panic...If this was 10 years ago, I would have felt the same, but a funny thing happened along the way...

     
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    The sox will play JBJ in center field.  They aren't signing, Beltran and I'd say there's a small chance they go after Choo

     
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    F it.....let's sign Cano, put him at third and move Middlebrooks to first.

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    The last thing a Front Office wants to do is panic...If this was 10 years ago, I would have felt the same, but a funny thing happened along the way...

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    I don't want them too either, Cano will cost too much

     
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    Yanks could really screw with Sox by signing Napoli tomorrow

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    they probably will sign Drew, not Napoli.

     
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    I like JBJ - but I don't think the sox can stand pat with their OF

     
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    As far as I know, John Henry has as much, or more , money as does Steinbrenner.  But I think it is wonderful that we have so many posters trying to save him money . I am sure he deeply appreciates it.

     

     



    Gale, would you have wanted the Sox to sign him to that contract? Crawford was a lesson learned, the hard way, no? 

     

     




    It is not just about this deal. So many posters on here are always trying to economize. Always trying to play small market G.M.  This is not a small market. It costs money to sign the top players. The Sox have the money. There will always be flops like Crawford , but that should not deter them.

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    I dont think it's about economizing, as much as BIG contracts that will put the organization in a strangle hold and keeps them from moving forward. 

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    Sure, but why is that we have to worry about those things , and the Yankees don't ?  That is why the Yankees are never down for long and have 27 championships despite a mediocre farm system.  They are never hesitant to spend. They are not concerned about a draft choice.  Long range plans are for the small markets.

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    Epstein tried to be like the NYY and it failed, gale. He admitted he lost his way. Get back to basics, draft,develop and fill in the gaps. That's the way to go. Let the Yankees, be like the Yankees.

     
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    As far as I know, John Henry has as much, or more , money as does Steinbrenner.  But I think it is wonderful that we have so many posters trying to save him money . I am sure he deeply appreciates it.

     

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    Gale, would you have wanted the Sox to sign him to that contract? Crawford was a lesson learned, the hard way, no? 

     

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    It is not just about this deal. So many posters on here are always trying to economize. Always trying to play small market G.M.  This is not a small market. It costs money to sign the top players. The Sox have the money. There will always be flops like Crawford , but that should not deter them.

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    I dont think it's about economizing, as much as BIG contracts that will put the organization in a strangle hold and keeps them from moving forward. 

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    Sure, but why is that we have to worry about those things , and the Yankees don't ?  That is why the Yankees are never down for long and have 27 championships despite a mediocre farm system.  They are never hesitant to spend. They are not concerned about a draft choice.  Long range plans are for the small markets.

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    26 of those Championships happened during the last century and 20 of them were won over 50 years ago. The Sox have won 3 times as many Championships over the last decade under this management group as the Yankees have.  These are not your Father's Red Sox.  Have a little faith once in a while and enjoy the ride.

     
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    I like JBJ - but I don't think the sox can stand pat with their OF

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    Gomes/nava platoon in left 

    JBJ in center

    Victorino in RF.

    Outfield is set.

    They do lack depth in the outfield, but I think they can go without Beltran/Choo/granderson

     
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    I just don't think you can go with Gomes/Nava + JBJ + Victorino in the OF. 

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    We are not going to sign Cano. That is a pipe dream. Don't even joke like that.

     
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    We are not going to sign Cano. That is a pipe dream. Don't even joke like that.

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    I'll put whatever I want in my pipe and smoke it, and I'm a jester.

     
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    Bradley is going to be a good ballplayer. Don't know if it will happen in 2014. I fully expect the Sox to sign Beltran or Choo. Probably Choo.

     
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    I'm half joking....but that is a lineup to dream on.

    Nava

    Pedroia

    Cano

    Ortiz

    Bogaerts

    Victorino

    Middlebrooks

    Jbj

    AJP.

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    Dream on ? Middlebrooks and JBJ are almost automatic outs and AJ has power but his OBP stinks

     
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    Don't we already have a pretty good second baseman?

     

     
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    Prediction: Six or seven years from now, Jackie Bradley Jr will sign with the Yankees.

     
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    I'm half joking....but that is a lineup to dream on.

    Nava

    Pedroia

    Cano

    Ortiz

    Bogaerts

    Victorino

    Middlebrooks

    Jbj

    AJP.

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    Dream on ? Middlebrooks and JBJ are almost automatic outs and AJ has power but his OBP stinks

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    Middlebrooks has raw power, JBJ will have a respectable OBP and AJmis already here.  The sum of that lineup as a whole will be one of the better offenses in all of baseball.  You're not going to have .350 OBP guy in every slot.....but hey if we really want to "dream on" let's just plug Miggy, Trout and Mauer in there.

     
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    Don't we already have a pretty good second baseman?

     

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    Cano has the arm for third.

    Disclaimer before this gets out of hand: I don't endorse signing Cano nor do I think it's very realistic.

     
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    Choo LF

    Victorino RF

    Pedrioa 2B

    Ortiz DH

    XB.  SS

    Nava 1B

    Middlebrooks3B

    AJ  C

    Jackie Bradley CF

     

    gomes as 4 th of  

    would that fit the payroll 

     
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    Prediction: Six or seven years from now, Jackie Bradley Jr will sign with the Yankees.

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    Lol

     
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