Re: David Ortiz is the Face of Baseball
posted at 1/3/2014 5:34 AM EST
In response to bosoxmal's comment:
In response to charliedarling's comment:
I have loved this guy for years as he has been a corner stone of the Boston Red Sox since the first year he arrived from Minnesota.
But, I do not agree with signing him yet for the 2015 season for two reasons.
First, he agreed with the team to not have any discussions about a 2015 contract until his 2014 contract has expired. Since today is only the very first day of 2014, his current contract will not expire for at least 9 full months. It certainly looks like he is getting ready to play the "disrespect" card, and I hope that he doesn't head in that direction.
Second, for as much as he has done in Boston, he is actually beyond the age for when his skills could easily erode in only a half year. Business-wise, it is just not a smart move to pay him for 2015 before he finishes 2014. I hope that he has a great 2014 season, but he is certainly one injury away (or a sharp decline) from hitting .222, 5 home runs and drving in 21 runs in 2014.
He will be resignable for 2015 after the 2014 season ends whether he plays well or poorly in 2014. If he plays well the Sox can give him the qualifying offer of about $15 M and no one else will match that and give up a draft pick for a 39 year old DH, and if he plays poorly he will get a better offer from the Sox than anyone else to try to make a comeback in 2015.
You make it sound as if it were all about money, age and what more he can do for this team and tgis town; you're missing the point all together. It should be "what can the Sox management do for David Ortiz; not the other way around.
Are you being serious here?
Here's a question...when it comes right down to it, w t f HAVEN'T the Sox done for him?
-He's complained maybe a dozen times it seems, and gets money every time
-He's acted childish and selfish, and people ignore it
-He was backed by his manager for MONTHS, in DIFFERENT SEASONS when he flatly was not producing, and he never even got dropped in the lineup
-One of those childish, selfish rants post-2011 season had him saying "I'll go to the Yankees rather than deal with this drama". Real team leader there, wasn't he. Oh, and he helped ADD to all that drama.
One word that NEVER comes to mind with Ortiz is 'professional'. It's what makes people love "this is our fking ceetee", and it's also what makes him lesser. Had he simply kept his mouth shut all these years, he likely would've gotten every same penny, he just wouldn't come off as such a whiny, entitled, spoiled little boy in the process.
What he's done ON THE FIELD isn't debateable. I wish that was all I had to consider.
At some point, winning championships became ALL that matters to people around here. Anything less is a failure, and achieving it absolves all for the 'likeable' ones.
It amazes me how much flak Curt Schilling got, and CONTINUES to get, and how little Ortiz gets.
I've run down the SUBSTANTIAL list of Ortiz transgressions before. And he, yet again, added to it this offseason. He ALWAYS does this. And people enable it. Time and time and time again.
Pedroia, to me, will be more of an embodiment and face of this franchise. His commitment to the team. His work ethic. His ability to speak into a microphone and not make it about himself. He lives here. Year round. He made one innappropriate comment during 2012, and later admitted it was wrong. Has Ortiz ever admitted anything he said was wrong? Even when he broke in, swearing, in the middle of Francona's press conference? Nope. Again, people make excuses...even PEDROIA trying to make light of it and even tried to take the heat for 'Big Papi' because he, apparently, couldn't handle it. I don't remember Ortiz ever being really questioned about that, or having anything to say. Zero accountability with this guy when he does wrong, but wants ALL the attention and ALL the money he 'fees he deserves'.
The Red Sox existed for over 100 years BEFORE Ortiz. They will exist just fine AFTER him too.