posted at 6/9/2013 2:57 PM EDT
For the record , I was in favor of trading Nomar because the situation had become untenable.
I thought I was the only Sox fan that loved the trade at the time, but I stand corrected.
I notice that you, as is your habit , take a cheap shot by using the words " real SS". Cabrera helped us win it all in 2004, but no one who knows anything about baseball would otherwise mention him in the same breath as Nomar.
It was pretty clear I was talking about fielding. Nomar was one of the most over-rated fielders at SS in my memory. His twisting jumping twirling throws from the hole were mostly needless, but made good highlights.
With Iglesias, you stay with your initial opinion that he is all glove , no stick , despite the growing evidence to the contrary.
No, that is softy's line-not mine.
My position has always been that Iggy's fielding is so superior that his hitting almost doesn't matter in the comparison to Drew or Aviles (last year). I often stated the minimum he'd have to do on offense to make him a plus over Aviles or Drew, but I have never once posted what I expected him to do in the majors. I do not think he is a great hitter, but I think he can become a very good one. Perhaps he is on his way to becomming that as we speak.
This kid has fast hands and lightning quick reflexes. He has a much improved approach at the plate. As long as he continues to stay focused, there is no reason why he cannot be a good hitter. This kid is good. It is not a mirage.
Yes, I agree. He has the tools to be a good hitter, but 79 PAs proves nothing. Pitchers will adjust and so must Iggy. I have never said he can not become a good hitter.
But trading Drew at this point makes no sense. He is still a useful player , and you would not get anything worthwhile in return.
As I have said, I would not trade him for nothing, I'd want something significant in return (even if it takes paying part of his contract) so how is this idea much different from your position? If we don't get anything valuable, I am not for trading him. (I hope he is Ok with being a UIF'er, because I think Iggy is here to stay... as a starter, and if Middy regains his form, Drew is the odd man out.)
As for Bradley, I think his future is bright. But he is batting .150 .
Stop with the darn tiny sample size current stat judgements. It's crazy.
You do not trade your starting center fielder to make room for him until he shows something. You are making more of his defense than is apparent to me. He has to hit to earn the job. The bottom line is ; we are in first place. There is no need to tinker and make trades. We have a good team and a few good young prospects. The guys we get in return in a trade are not likely to make us better.
It's not a straight Ells to JBJ move, there is also this possibility:
LF: Carp/Gomes (Nava)
RF: Nava (Vict)
Gomes is heating up vs LHPs and has been trenedous vs lefties for about 5 years. Carp is killing righties. Nava is Navalicious!
Again, I do not give Ellsbury away, but I look at the dealine and see 2 months of Ellsbury's value as perhaps being less than an offer a desperate GM makes us. If they offer more value, I'd pounce. It's not an absurd position to trade for more value.
No better value offered? No trade and we keep Drew and Ells.