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    Derek Lowe

    posted at 8/13/2012 9:47 PM EDT

    DLowe picked up a save tonight in his N.Y. debut vs. the Rangers. Four innings, no runs, two hits , four strikeouts, no walks.  Is there anyone in our bullpen who could do that ? 
     

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    Re: Derek Lowe

    posted at 8/13/2012 10:00 PM EDT

    In Response to Derek Lowe:
    DLowe picked up a save tonight in his N.Y. debut vs. the Rangers. Four innings, no runs, two hits , four strikeouts, no walks.  Is there anyone in our bullpen who could do that ? 
    Posted by dgalehouse
      Damn, he looked like 2004 all over again....


     

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    Re: Derek Lowe

    posted at 8/13/2012 10:13 PM EDT

    As usual, the Red Sox sat on their hands & did nothing regarding picking up Lowe. Sad state of affairs considering Lowe even hinted at returning to Boston.
     

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    Re: Derek Lowe

    posted at 8/13/2012 10:13 PM EDT

    What else would you expect?
     

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    Re: Derek Lowe

    posted at 8/13/2012 10:27 PM EDT

    Our pen is our strength. Had we signed Lowe and he had just one bad game, we'd hear how badly Ben is doing.

     

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    Re: Derek Lowe

    posted at 8/13/2012 10:32 PM EDT

    Who would you have cut?
     

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    Re: Derek Lowe

    posted at 8/13/2012 10:32 PM EDT

    Our pen has been mostly a strength, but Atchison and Padilla are gone and Melancon has a 7.39 ERA.
     

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    Re: Derek Lowe

    posted at 8/13/2012 10:36 PM EDT

    Amazing how these Veterans put on the pinestripes and they are transformed into what they once were.
     

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    Re: Derek Lowe

    posted at 8/13/2012 10:37 PM EDT

    4 innings, first outing, too soon to say. Rangers didn't have much offense against Phelps, either. Only time will tell how this plays out. 
     

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    Re: Derek Lowe

    posted at 8/13/2012 10:40 PM EDT

    Yeah, it just seems like the Yankees do a much better job patching their holes than we do.  They have arguably had even more damaging injuries than we have this year.
     

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    Re: Derek Lowe

    posted at 8/13/2012 10:41 PM EDT

    In Response to Derek Lowe:
    DLowe picked up a save tonight in his N.Y. debut vs. the Rangers. Four innings, no runs, two hits , four strikeouts, no walks.  Is there anyone in our bullpen who could do that ? 
    Posted by dgalehouse

    That's rhetorical, right?
     

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    Re: Derek Lowe

    posted at 8/13/2012 10:42 PM EDT

    ya i love how people keep refering to our pen as a strength, padilla and atchison are done, melancon is still mediocre, breslow is giving up a run every time out now, albers is gone to zona, bailey will be back tomorrow, so we essentially have bailey and aceves that can be counted on. Clearly a real strong pen, oh and lets not forget our great set up man/ potential closer of the future is sitting in AAA cuz the fo mess with him and potentially ruined him. He cant even get his s**t together in AAA. Lowe would not have solved all the sox problems, but he would have been a good pick up. He wanted to be here and the sox didnt even give him a chance. The sox fo is a big part of why the team is doing so bad this year. They refuse to bring in reinforcements when the team clearly needs them and continuosly make bad moves. 
     

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    Re: Derek Lowe

    posted at 8/13/2012 10:48 PM EDT

    Our bullpen is overrated.  The save percentage is close to the worst in the league.  Hopefully Bailey will make a difference.
     

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    Re: Derek Lowe

    posted at 8/13/2012 11:05 PM EDT

    First of all our bullpen WAS A STRENGTH...it's been overused and this is what has transpired
    1. Atchison's arm fell off
    2. Padilla's arm fell off
    3. Albers inexplicably traded 
    4. Aceves shaky often
    5. Melancon terrible in 2 stints as a Sox
    Derek Lowe wanted to come back, the Sox needed some feel good veteran return to the Fens story and this was it. If anything it would have been nostalgic. Instead he'll likely throw great for NYY the rest of the way. He was needed, he wanted to come back, and as usual Ben sat on his hands.
     

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    Re: Derek Lowe

    posted at 8/13/2012 11:28 PM EDT

    In response to "Re: Derek Lowe":
    Yeah, it just seems like the Yankees do a much better job patching their holes than we do.  They have arguably had even more damaging injuries than we have this year. Posted by Hfxsoxnut
    The Red Sox have holes like the Titantic sprung a leak.
     

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    Re: Derek Lowe

    posted at 8/13/2012 11:30 PM EDT

    First of all our bullpen WAS A STRENGTH...it's been overused and this is what has transpired
    1. Atchison's arm fell off
    2. Padilla's arm fell off
    3. Albers inexplicably traded 
    4. Aceves shaky often
    5. Melancon terrible in 2 stints as a Sox
    Derek Lowe wanted to come back, the Sox needed some feel good veteran return to the Fens story and this was it. If anything it would have been nostalgic. Instead he'll likely throw great for NYY the rest of the way. He was needed, he wanted to come back, and as usual Ben sat on his hands.

    1. Lowe was not going to be our savior, nor will he save NY.
    2. Our bullpen had a greater percentage of innings pitched last year vs this year.             (35.5%  to 34.1%) 
    3. Atchison had just 46 IP this year. He had 60 in 2010 and his arm stayed on.
    4. Padilla had just 39 IP before his arm fell off. He had 95 last year.
    5. Melancon is our 7th reliever.
    6. Bailey is returning, and we need to test him out.
    7. Aceves will return to his best role.
    8. We got Breslowto replace Albers.
    9.Doubront will likely be sent to the pen to limit his innings and one of Cook or Morales will be in the pen.
    10. Here's our pen without Atchison, Albers or Padilla.

    CL Bailey
    RP Aceves
    RP Breslow 
    RP Miller
    RP Doubront/Morales/Cook (The one not in the rotation)
    RP Mortensen
    RP Tazawa
    RP Melancon
    (We may see Bard. We may see Dice-K before the season ends. There's also Prior, Carpenter, Wilson...)
     

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    Re: Derek Lowe

    posted at 8/13/2012 11:36 PM EDT

    I'm not suprised Benbot did nothing about Lowe. He's done nothing all year of any consquence. What little he's done with his trades and signings is pretty pathetic, except for Ross. He's clearly incapable as a GM. That's why Larry chose him. He's an errand boy, brick salesman and gives platitudes by the shovelful. I'm sure they don't pay him like a real GM anyway. Would you?
     

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    Re: Derek Lowe

    posted at 8/14/2012 2:15 AM EDT

    In Response to Re: Derek Lowe:
    First of all our bullpen WAS A STRENGTH...it's been overused and this is what has transpired 1. Atchison's arm fell off 2. Padilla's arm fell off 3. Albers inexplicably traded  4. Aceves shaky often 5. Melancon terrible in 2 stints as a Sox Derek Lowe wanted to come back, the Sox needed some feel good veteran return to the Fens story and this was it. If anything it would have been nostalgic. Instead he'll likely throw great for NYY the rest of the way. He was needed, he wanted to come back, and as usual Ben sat on his hands. 1 . Lowe was not going to be our savior, nor will he save NY. 2. Our bullpen had a greater percentage of innings pitched last year vs this year.             (35.5%  to 34.1%)  3. Atchison had just 46 IP this year. He had 60 in 2010 and his arm stayed on. 4. Padilla had just 39 IP before his arm fell off. He had 95 last year. 5. Melancon is our 7th reliever. 6. Bailey is returning, and we need to test him out. 7. Aceves will return to his best role. 8. We got Breslowto replace Albers. 9.Doubront will likely be sent to the pen to limit his innings and one of  Cook or Morales will be in the pen. 10. Here's our pen without Atchison, Albers or Padilla. CL Bailey RP Aceves RP Breslow  RP Miller RP Doubront/Morales/Cook (The one not in the rotation) RP Mortensen RP Tazawa RP Melancon (We may see Bard. We may see Dice-K before the season ends. There's also Prior, Carpenter, Wilson...)
    Posted by moonslav59


    It's a pen that is not as good as the one from earlier in the year, and that's really my point. As for Atchison, how many times did the Sox use 4 or 5 relievers in a game just to suit BV's cat fancy regarding his managerial wisdom.
    And on another note, I would like to see Prior, but I'm sure that again Ben will nix any idea of having a veteran player with some prior success muck up a terrible team.
     

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    Re: Derek Lowe

    posted at 8/14/2012 5:21 AM EDT

    Just what the team needs another over rated boozer.
     

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    Re: Derek Lowe

    posted at 8/14/2012 5:36 AM EDT

    In Response to Derek Lowe:
    DLowe picked up a save tonight in his N.Y. debut vs. the Rangers. Four innings, no runs, two hits , four strikeouts, no walks.  Is there anyone in our bullpen who could do that ? 
    Posted by dgalehouse


    Who cares? Derek Lowe is not on our team, and there's probably a reason for that since he's been trying to get back on the team for a while.
     

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    Re: Derek Lowe

    posted at 8/14/2012 5:40 AM EDT

    In Response to Derek Lowe:
    DLowe picked up a save tonight in his N.Y. debut vs. the Rangers. Four innings, no runs, two hits , four strikeouts, no walks.  Is there anyone in our bullpen who could do that ? 
    Posted by dgalehouse


    Have one good game?  All of them, denny.  Most have had a good season this year which I think is beyond Lowe at this point.
     

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    Re: Derek Lowe

    posted at 8/14/2012 7:48 AM EDT

    Who are you going to cut today when Bailey returns? Do you send out Mel or Junichi or Mort??

    He who hesitates is lost...it wasn't just BenC and Theo but Chavez, Andru and Ibanez could have been on the Sox bench or covering 3 B or patrolling the OF.

    Cash and Lowe gave the Sox every chance to swoop in and the Sox management must have felt Melancon was a better choice. Who knows the real story? 

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    Who would you have cut?
    Posted by Joebreidey
     

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    Re: Derek Lowe

    posted at 8/14/2012 8:09 AM EDT

    In Response to Re: Derek Lowe:
    4 innings, first outing, too soon to say. Rangers didn't have much offense against Phelps, either. Only time will tell how this plays out. 
    Posted by J-BAY


    That is correct.  Plus Texas was using mostly right handed hitting line up.
     

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