Desperation

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    Desperation

    Desperation is the Sox of '14


    1. Had to have Drew to play SS


    2. Wanted desperately to rely on Sizemore as CF


    3. Had to bring up Betts despite being way before his time


    4. Have to hit Nava No. 2 because there are no alternatives

     
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    Imagine how much better off they'd be if they

     

    1)  dealt Buck in the off season

    2)  acquired a RH Power Bat for LF

    3)  cut ties w/ Lady Grady 2 weeks sooner

    4)  cut ties w/ Mujica a month ago

     
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    More bad news; the more Bogey plays, the lower his trade value becomes. Only bright spot on this team has been the pitching for the most part, especially when Doubront isn't pitching. 

     
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    Ben decided to roll the dice in the off season.  Funny how each move he made last off season worked, not so this season.

     
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    You win some and you lose some. I say stop your whining and enjoy the fact that you got to witness 3 world series in 10 years!  

     
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    In response to chickenandboose's comment:

    You win some and you lose some. I say stop your whining and enjoy the fact that you got to witness 3 world series in 10 years!  



    oh thank you....a ray of light on such a cloudy day.  There is still sanity in sox nation.

    Honestly, until the Sox lay an egg two years in a row, I won't complain.  **** happens, but when you don't address it or deal with it THAT's when it hits me.  As far as I'm concerned this F.O. has had zero trade deadlines and zero off seasons since this season that we call a debacle. 

     
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    Not gonna lie......I REALLY wanted them to go after Abreau in the off season.  I understand the rational for not, however, they had the cash and they needed a bat.

    With that said......I was also the same guy that was VERY happy they signed Drew this season..... (You gotta take the good prediction with the that bad prediction...everything balances itself out!)

     
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    Imagine how much better off they'd be if they

     

    1)  dealt Buck in the off season

    2)  acquired a RH Power Bat for LF

    3)  cut ties w/ Lady Grady 2 weeks sooner

    4)  cut ties w/ Mujica a month ago




    1) For what?

    2) Who was out there?

    3) And done what?  Have they done anything since he was released that they weren't doing before he was released?

    4) Pitching has not been the issue. Don't really care one way or the other about Mujica, but you are delusional if you think releasing the last or next to last guy in the bullpen would have made a difference. 

     
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    More bad news; the more Bogey plays, the lower his trade value becomes. Only bright spot on this team has been the pitching for the most part, especially when Doubront isn't pitching. 




    Now we're trading Bogaerts because he's having trouble hitting a big league breaking ball?  This place has gone off the deep end.

     
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    More bad news; the more Bogey plays, the lower his trade value becomes. Only bright spot on this team has been the pitching for the most part, especially when Doubront isn't pitching. 




    Now we're trading Bogaerts because he's having trouble hitting a big league breaking ball?  This place has gone off the deep end.

    If I were Bill I'd say, BINGO DAT,

    But since I'm S5 I'll say, NO KIDDING!!"

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    In response to andrewmitch's comment:

    Imagine how much better off they'd be if they

     

    1)  dealt Buck in the off season

    2)  acquired a RH Power Bat for LF

    3)  cut ties w/ Lady Grady 2 weeks sooner

    4)  cut ties w/ Mujica a month ago




    1) For what?

    2) Who was out there?

    3) And done what?  Have they done anything since he was released that they weren't doing before he was released?

    4) Pitching has not been the issue. Don't really care one way or the other about Mujica, but you are delusional if you think releasing the last or next to last guy in the bullpen would have made a difference. 




    so not one player is available for a trade? 

    cutting bait with your worst hitter and worst reliever and worst starter can only help.  given they are the worst then logic dictates their replacement must be better.  take all the games buck and mujica blew for them and if convert just 20% of those to wins that's a few more wins.  how many times did sizemore make an out w/ the game on the line?  convert just one of those to a game winning hit and now we have a total of 4 incremental wins.  stop me when start following this.............

     
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    Re: Desperation

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    In response to BogieAt12oclock's comment:

    More bad news; the more Bogey plays, the lower his trade value becomes. Only bright spot on this team has been the pitching for the most part, especially when Doubront isn't pitching. 




    Now we're trading Bogaerts because he's having trouble hitting a big league breaking ball?  This place has gone off the deep end.




    if U think it's to early fine

    but U make it sound like 'trouble with the cure'

    hasn't ruined many careers

     
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    In response to illinoisredsox's comment:

    In response to BogieAt12oclock's comment:

    More bad news; the more Bogey plays, the lower his trade value becomes. Only bright spot on this team has been the pitching for the most part, especially when Doubront isn't pitching. 




    Now we're trading Bogaerts because he's having trouble hitting a big league breaking ball?  This place has gone off the deep end.




    He's being sarcastic......relax.

     
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    In response to chickenandboose's comment:

    You win some and you lose some. I say stop your whining and enjoy the fact that you got to witness 3 world series in 10 years!  


    Being in another world series is not the problem. Winning a few games is a major problem.Fans are looking for something to watch and enjoy. Do you not think this team 2014 is a joke right out of Spring Training? Fans are being taken as suckers and now they just would like to watch good baseball not minor  league at major league prices. If you feel that living in the past is worth bad baseball now, then so be it. Sox stink and fans have that right to let it be known ,we don't like it... Win some lose some? The win some are getting hard to come by. Not whining ,just a fact. Something I guess you just don't get. As long as your happy ,go watch your 2004 sox video ,Let us know the ending will ya !

     
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    Re: Desperation

    In response to andrewmitch's comment:

    In response to illinoisredsox's comment:

    In response to andrewmitch's comment:

    Imagine how much better off they'd be if they

     

    1)  dealt Buck in the off season

    2)  acquired a RH Power Bat for LF

    3)  cut ties w/ Lady Grady 2 weeks sooner

    4)  cut ties w/ Mujica a month ago




    1) For what?

    2) Who was out there?

    3) And done what?  Have they done anything since he was released that they weren't doing before he was released?

    4) Pitching has not been the issue. Don't really care one way or the other about Mujica, but you are delusional if you think releasing the last or next to last guy in the bullpen would have made a difference. 




    so not one player is available for a trade? 

    cutting bait with your worst hitter and worst reliever and worst starter can only help.  given they are the worst then logic dictates their replacement must be better.  take all the games buck and mujica blew for them and if convert just 20% of those to wins that's a few more wins.  how many times did sizemore make an out w/ the game on the line?  convert just one of those to a game winning hit and now we have a total of 4 incremental wins.  stop me when start following this.............



    how did clay pitch last night?

    for grady - who would you have hit for him in those spots?  the whole team is struggling to hit....

    other names i have posted under:  none

     

     
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    In response to slasher9's comment:

    In response to andrewmitch's comment:

    In response to illinoisredsox's comment:

    In response to andrewmitch's comment:

    Imagine how much better off they'd be if they

     

    1)  dealt Buck in the off season

    2)  acquired a RH Power Bat for LF

    3)  cut ties w/ Lady Grady 2 weeks sooner

    4)  cut ties w/ Mujica a month ago




    1) For what?

    2) Who was out there?

    3) And done what?  Have they done anything since he was released that they weren't doing before he was released?

    4) Pitching has not been the issue. Don't really care one way or the other about Mujica, but you are delusional if you think releasing the last or next to last guy in the bullpen would have made a difference. 




    so not one player is available for a trade? 

    cutting bait with your worst hitter and worst reliever and worst starter can only help.  given they are the worst then logic dictates their replacement must be better.  take all the games buck and mujica blew for them and if convert just 20% of those to wins that's a few more wins.  how many times did sizemore make an out w/ the game on the line?  convert just one of those to a game winning hit and now we have a total of 4 incremental wins.  stop me when start following this.............



    how did clay pitch last night?

    for grady - who would you have hit for him in those spots?  the whole team is struggling to hit....

    other names i have posted under:  none

     




    one game?  one?  against the Cubs?  what about all of his other stinkers?  are you erasing those?

    re:  Lady Grady.  He was the weakest hitter.  Therefore, logic dictates that anyone else would had been better.  Anyone else.  If you are still lost, I suggest you look up the word "worst" in any English dictionary........

     
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    Re: Desperation

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    Desperation is the Sox of '14

     

    1. Had to have Drew to play SS

     

    2. Wanted desperately to rely on Sizemore as CF

     

    3. Had to bring up Betts despite being way before his time

     

    4. Have to hit Nava No. 2 because there are no alternatives




    Yes to #one, Size did well in ST so no. The international league is not what it was last year so I think they caved in on bringing up Mookie. 

     
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    2014 and 2012....and in between a WS title....it's beyond mind-boggling....only way you can look at it is that the Sox were given a flyer by the Baseball Gods...here enjoy '13 because back to reality in '14.

     
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    steven, the Sox were hoping a guy who was out of baseball for 2 years and had a good ST (a lot of the best AAA players have had good STs too...not exactly predicting of a MLB player's season) was going to somehow replace or even half replace Ellsbury....Bradley replaced his defense as it turns out.

     
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    steven, the Sox were hoping a guy who was out of baseball for 2 years and had a good ST (a lot of the best AAA players have had good STs too...not exactly predicting of a MLB player's season) was going to somehow replace or even half replace Ellsbury....Bradley replaced his defense as it turns out.




    I drank the koolaide on Size, mostly because some good posters like SouthPaw were serving it.  I hope Size does well somewhere, another guy in shape and a nice swing.  Perhaps the fault lies on the end of the red sox and their hitting coach?

     
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    well, hard to criticize a coach who had a tough health problem to recover from...If Colbrunn gets fired, it's like most hitting coaches, they are the sacrificial lambs of MLB. Pitching coaches are second in that category. You ever see a Bench Coach, the right-hand man ever get fired? Nope. Usually that's the guy who replaces the manager when the team gives up on the manager. Best guy to be in a dugout? Bench Coach.

     
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    Re: Desperation

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    More bad news; the more Bogey plays, the lower his trade value becomes. Only bright spot on this team has been the pitching for the most part, especially when Doubront isn't pitching. 





    Now we're trading Bogaerts because he's having trouble hitting a big league breaking ball?  This place has gone off the deep end.




    Didn't say to trade him, just mentioned his value has gone down. Reading Comprehension 101?

     
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    Re: Desperation

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    More bad news; the more Bogey plays, the lower his trade value becomes. Only bright spot on this team has been the pitching for the most part, especially when Doubront isn't pitching. 





    Now we're trading Bogaerts because he's having trouble hitting a big league breaking ball?  This place has gone off the deep end.





    He's being sarcastic......relax.




    Only slightly, but the truth is Bogey's trading value has gone down since he was the #1 prospect in the SOX minor league system. If anyone wants to argue that, fine.

     
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    In response to illinoisredsox's comment:

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    More bad news; the more Bogey plays, the lower his trade value becomes. Only bright spot on this team has been the pitching for the most part, especially when Doubront isn't pitching. 




    Now we're trading Bogaerts because he's having trouble hitting a big league breaking ball?  This place has gone off the deep end.

    If I were Bill I'd say, BINGO DAT,

    But since I'm S5 I'll say, NO KIDDING!!"

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    No, if Bill were here he'd say "Yes, Bogey's trading value has gone down." But then Bill's reading comprehension is better than both of yours. 

     
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    so not one player is available for a trade? 

    cutting bait with your worst hitter and worst reliever and worst starter can only help.  given they are the worst then logic dictates their replacement must be better.  take all the games buck and mujica blew for them and if convert just 20% of those to wins that's a few more wins.  how many times did sizemore make an out w/ the game on the line?  convert just one of those to a game winning hit and now we have a total of 4 incremental wins.  stop me when start following this.............



    I follow you just fine, just like reading a cheap novel.

    I have no idea who is/was available for trade.  Neither do you.  The difference is I admit that.

    Re Sizemore.  The entire team has been terrible with the game on the line.  You can play that game with virtually every player on the team and to single out one player is absurd.  At the time of his release, Sizemore was the 2nd most productive Red Sox OF behind Gomes.  A sad state of affairs, but that's the what the numbers say.  Nava has since picked it up but was still below Sizemore AT THE TIME.  If you want to count Victorino's 21 games (and he was not exactly lighting it up) , then Sizemore dropped to 3rd.  Holt had played all of 9 games in the OF at that point, but essentially his emergence as an OF forced Sizemore out of a job. No issue there, it was an experiment that didn't work.  Only an idiot would blame the season on him.

    Like it or not, the FACT is the Sox are 5-7 in Buchholz's starts.  Perhaps you should redirect your venom towards Mr. Peavy, the Sox are 5-12 in his games and have not won in one of his starts since May 29.  Buchholz is at least showing signs of coming around, Peavy is fading rapidly.  

    I already said I could take or leave Mujica, but he is 2-3 with 2 saves and 1 blown save (a game the Red Sox won).  Koji has blown as many games as Mujica.  Not sure what you are expecting out of the 11th guy on  the staff.   

     
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