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Did Sox just find a number 5 guy?
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Did Sox just find a number 5 guy?
posted at 5/26/2011 3:04 PM EDT
- beavis
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Re: Did Sox just find a number 5 guy?
posted at 5/26/2011 3:41 PM EDT
- pinstripezac32
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Aceves?
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Re: Did Sox just find a number 5 guy?
posted at 5/26/2011 3:45 PM EDT
- SoxSoldRed
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Wastefield is our #4 guy. When Slackey returns, Aceves will need to return to the pen so Wastefield can keep working his magic. -
Re: Did Sox just find a number 5 guy?
posted at 5/26/2011 3:47 PM EDT
- the--yazzer
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as long as SLACKEY is still in the rotation, ACEVES will be #4.
there's only room for one #5 on a baseball team and that belongs to SLACKEY.
WAKE would be #5.5. -
Re: Did Sox just find a number 5 guy?
posted at 5/26/2011 3:54 PM EDT
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Wastefield is one of the best starters in the majors. -
Re: Did Sox just find a number 5 guy?
posted at 5/26/2011 4:11 PM EDT
- beavis
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come on be easy on Wake and Lack...
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Re: Did Sox just find a number 5 guy?
posted at 5/26/2011 5:05 PM EDT
- maxbialystock
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Aceves is #4 and Wake is #5. When Lackey returns, Wake becomes the 6th starter. Wake can indeed be magical, but not over prolonged periods. -
Re: Did Sox just find a number 5 guy?
posted at 5/26/2011 5:11 PM EDT
- DirtyWaterLover
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He may be benefitting from the hitters being unfamiliar with him. But he is at least a #5 or this team.
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Re: Did Sox just find a number 5 guy?
posted at 5/26/2011 5:16 PM EDT
- 111SoxFan111
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In Response to Re: Did Sox just find a number 5 guy?:Aceves is #4 and Wake is #5. When Lackey returns, Wake becomes the 6th starter. Wake can indeed be magical, but not over prolonged periods.
Posted by maxbialystock
+1 too this. Boy genius strikes gold w/ Aceves? I'd like to see a couple more starts before I get too excited, but the fact that he was capable of a start like this is enough for me to know this was a smart move.Oh, and keeping Wake on the roster was also pretty smart too ... old man is putting up another 4.5 ERA year. Not lighting it on fire but a good man to have in case of emergency. Now if Doubront and/or Miller are looking good in AAA at the end of the year, I think Wake may be retiring, but for this year and at his $$$, I give it a thumbs up. -
Re: Did Sox just find a number 5 guy?
posted at 5/26/2011 5:29 PM EDT
- SoxSoldRed
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Wake can indeed be magical, but not over prolonged periods
Wild pitches and a + 5 ERA since the last half of 2009 is not "magical" over any length of time.
Aceves would have helped the Red Sox win more games earlier in the year, when Wakefield was roster squating. Would have like to have seen Aceves earlier in the year and farm guys for a few spot starts, over Wakefield.
I will celebrate if Wakefield retires at year end, or goes and pitches in Florida as he said he would consider if the Red Sox don't change his role. -
Re: Did Sox just find a number 5 guy?
posted at 5/26/2011 5:32 PM EDT
- rvicini
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So far so good.. Let's see if he can reach the 7th next game -
Re: Did Sox just find a number 5 guy?
posted at 5/26/2011 5:39 PM EDT
- andrewmitch
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Aceves' value is as a long reliever but he's done a great job filling in.......I believe he'll get one more spot start and then back to the pen.......Wakefield can't pitch in relief so he stays in the rotation.....And it's wait and see w/ Lackey............and Dice K.....and Doubrant.......I still think they are going to need another arm........
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Re: Did Sox just find a number 5 guy?
posted at 5/26/2011 5:44 PM EDT
- Thesemenarecowards
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I think you have to treat these Wake/Aceves starts as a sort of try-out until Lackey comes back. So far Aceves is 2-2, lets see what Wake does tomorrow. With Dice being out a while, if not indefinitely, have both Aceves and Wake will prove extremely valuable. -
Re: Did Sox just find a number 5 guy?
posted at 5/26/2011 5:54 PM EDT
- SoxSoldRed
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Wakefield has had 2 starts close together. One was against the weakest offense in the AL, and the next one was a blowout classic Wakefield meltdown. He had about two weeks off before his last appearance in the last start. I say give him the ball every 5 days and watch him break down and get hammered. I truly wish Wakefield wasn't what he has been since the second half of 2009, a terrible 5 plus ERA, but he's old, fat and needs weeks of rest between starts. Hard to justify keeping that kind of profile on the active roster. In fact, in can't be justified. -
Re: Did Sox just find a number 5 guy?
posted at 5/26/2011 6:27 PM EDT
- bbenton87
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I do not understand the hate for Wake what the heck did he do to you? Prove you wrong? Maybe? -
Re: Did Sox just find a number 5 guy?
posted at 5/26/2011 6:39 PM EDT
- SoxSoldRed
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No, Wakefield hasn't been used enough to "prove me wrong". That, per se, has proven me right. -
Re: Did Sox just find a number 5 guy?
posted at 5/26/2011 6:51 PM EDT
- SleeStack1
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Don't worry Softy, 'ol Snake Eyes Daisuke will be back from his Japan sojourn any day now. -
Re: Did Sox just find a number 5 guy?
posted at 5/26/2011 10:32 PM EDT
- harness
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What number is Dice now?
Lackey is supposed to be number...
No, wait, now Aceves is number...
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Re: Did Sox just find a number 5 guy?
posted at 5/26/2011 11:23 PM EDT
- rameakap
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and yeah what a nifty find Aceves has been :-)
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Re: Did Sox just find a number 5 guy?
posted at 5/26/2011 11:46 PM EDT
- soxfanwest
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In Response to Re: Did Sox just find a number 5 guy?:Wakefield has had 2 starts close together. One was against the weakest offense in the AL, and the next one was a blowout classic Wakefield meltdown. He had about two weeks off before his last appearance in the last start. I say give him the ball every 5 days and watch him break down and get hammered. I truly wish Wakefield wasn't what he has been since the second half of 2009, a terrible 5 plus ERA, but he's old, fat and needs weeks of rest between starts. Hard to justify keeping that kind of profile on the active roster. In fact, in can't be justified.
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Re: Did Sox just find a number 5 guy?
posted at 5/26/2011 11:56 PM EDT
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If Aceves is demoted in favor of Wastefield, the U.S. Justice Department should call out the federal tolerance police. Aceves may not be a good ole boy, but he's 28 years old and has earned a rotation spot until such time as he becomes ineffective. Very sad to read the comments about Aceves being "a strange guy" and "a head case". These are ethnic slurs with no factual basis. -
Re: Did Sox just find a number 5 guy?
posted at 5/27/2011 12:05 AM EDT
- soxfanwest
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In Response to Re: Did Sox just find a number 5 guy?:Wakefield has had 2 starts close together. One was against the weakest offense in the AL, and the next one was a blowout classic Wakefield meltdown. He had about two weeks off before his last appearance in the last start. I say give him the ball every 5 days and watch him break down and get hammered. I truly wish Wakefield wasn't what he has been since the second half of 2009, a terrible 5 plus ERA, but he's old, fat and needs weeks of rest between starts. Hard to justify keeping that kind of profile on the active roster. In fact, in can't be justified.
Posted by SoxSoldRed
First, to call Wakefield fat, tells me you need a new television. Bartolo Colon is fat. So is C.C. Sabathia. That being said, Wake is not that different from any other 5th starter. When his knukleball is working, he's difficult to hit, when it's flat, he's going to get roughed up. -
Re: Did Sox just find a number 5 guy?
posted at 5/27/2011 1:08 AM EDT
- harness
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In Response to Re: Did Sox just find a number 5 guy?:If Aceves is demoted in favor of Wastefield, the U.S. Justice Department should call out the federal tolerance police. Aceves may not be a good ole boy, but he's 28 years old and has earned a rotation spot until such time as he becomes ineffective. Very sad to read the comments about Aceves being "a strange guy" and "a head case". These are ethnic slurs with no factual basis.
Posted by SoxSoldRed
You are a head case. This is factual. -
Re: Did Sox just find a number 5 guy?
posted at 5/27/2011 1:24 AM EDT
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Head and belly case, supra -
Re: Did Sox just find a number 5 guy?
posted at 5/27/2011 1:27 AM EDT
- harness
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Geez. I thought that was you getting ready for a good golf match!
