Re: do you still like the trade?
posted at 8/22/2013 1:26 PM EDT
In response to ZILLAGOD's comment:
In response to royf19's comment:
It's too short of a sample to decide. Iggy's batting .302 with Detroit after a slow start, so good for him, although only two of 19 hits are extra bases. On the other hand, in the short term, it really hasn't hurt the Sox. Middlebrooks is hitting better at 3B and Drew is hitting better at SS.
So the Sox still are better in the lineup albeit a bit worse in the field. On the whole IMO, it's a net gain. Peavy has pitched well in three of four starts, even if he is just a six-inning pitcher.
So for now, I believe the Sox are better with Middlebrooks-Drew-Peavy than they would be with Iggy-Drew-Workman or Middlebrooks-Iggy-Workman.
Let's revisit this trade at the end of the year and at the end of next season.
As I have said before, Peavy was brought here as a "win now" alternative to the off season plan of rebuilding character, winning mentality and a great clubhouse. If the Red Sox are merely a .500 team and looking at no playoffs, they do not make this trade.
So the logical man would say, a Red Sox team going deep into the playoffs is all you need to justify this trade.
If they fail to make the grade, if they lose early in the playoffs. this trade is a mistake.
If they win it all or advance to the WS, I would have to back down from my stance and agree with all those who say this was a very good trade.
I am a logical man. This was a trade not about personal stats, but about how far it takes the team in postseason.
That's why I said let's revist this trade at the end of the season. Right now, all we have to go on his personal statistics.
And how the Sox do in regard to postseason this year (and next considering Peavy is signed through next year) is a big part of evaluating the trade but a bit simplistic too.
Is it a good trade if the Sox win the W.S., Peavy doesn't pitch in the postseason and has a 9.33 ERA the reat of the year while Iggy bats .350 the rest of the year with Detroit?
Is it a bad trade if Peavy has a 0.75 ERA the rest of the year, Iggy bats .125 and is benched for Detroit and the Sox don't make the playoffs or lose in the W.C. game; and next year Peavy goes 17-5 with a 2.24 ERA, Iggy bats .180 as a part-time player yet the Sox don't make the playoffs?
Those are extreme examples of course, but it illustrates my point.
My main point, however, remains -- let's revist the trade at the end of this year then again at the end of next year?