Re: Do you think Manny Ramirez should be voted into the Hall Of Fame?
posted at 4/14/2011 2:10 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Do you think Manny Ramirez should be voted into the Hall Of Fame?
[QUOTE]No negative clouds or desparate PED use can possibly erase the beautiful image of Manny's swing or the electricity of Manny playing cat & mouse with a pitcher on an October night. No doubt for me: HALL OF FAME!!
Posted by SpacemanEephus[/QUOTE]
I totally feel the same way right up until the HoF part. I don't necessarily think keeping "known" cheaters out of the HoF really denigrates them or makes them less special, especially considering Manny's legacy as a pure hitter
. And he was, too! He possessed the best eye, hand-eye coord, temperament, and hitting intellect inside he white lines of that batter's box.
When he was down in the count 0 - 2, I didn't think "Oh shh... ", rather I thought, "This pitcher is f_ _ _ _ _ ! LOL!@" The man was a genius hitter and kind of a degenerate in every other respect... lackadaisical, premadona, even perhaps deliberately loafing in order to lose (to send a message). But I agree, I'll always love Manny for the pure fun of watching one man at the pinnacle of
But, a counter point to the argument that the juicers that were "pure hitters" should be allowed in the HoF as opposed to simple HR jackers, is this: all PEDs, no matter what the substance, give you an unfair edge. Take even the mildest form of prescription steroids... they are simply amazing. At some point or another everyone has had poison ivy. I had a mild case of it while working a summer job in college at a driving range. But the damn thing just lingered. I went to the doc, got Prednazone (sp?), and wham-O, gone nearly the next day. But that wasn't all... my entire mood was affected. It was like having a sunshine enema, I couldn't help but be all bright eyed and bushy tailed.
Steroids, as explained many times elsewhere, also have other important benefits when taken for sound reasons: they greatly increase the regenerative power of the body, improve eye sight (very, very important
) a small albeit noticeable amount as well as many other fringe benefits.
If Manny was juicin, for whatever reason, to heal faster, to stay in the game longer, to last so many seasons, whatever, it gave him an unfair advantage and directly impacted his ability to hit for average (muscular response times, a body that feels alert and fresh on the last inning of a coast to coast road trip, etc).
And for that reason I think we can myth bust the "pure hitter" argument as baloney. PEDs, regardless of the reason one takes them, give individuals many varied advantages aside from the obvious intended ones.
I still loved Manny and will forever be grateful for 2004 and 2007 though. Just goes to show you that we're all hypocrites at some small level.
By the way, Spacemaneephus is the shizzle! I get more laughs out of his posts than any other person on this board. If I didn't know better I'd swear he was
the man himself!